How can Republicans defend Trump calling on Russia to attack our allies?

[mthawkeyes]

What do the former soviet republics bring to the table?

They want to be part of a mutually beneficial coalition of nations who adhere to democratic principles. Should we allow their desire for self-government to be quashed because their population is too small to defend themselves on their own? I would say that the moral answer is no. If you disagree, why?

 

[sabula]

It's because objective people realize that he's actually calling on the NATO members to pay their fair share. It's not really an encouragement for Russia to attack someone, it's encouragement to pay what you've agreed or proceed at your own risk and don't expect to be bailed out. I don't like Trump but it really doesn't seem that controversial. Just seems like the Superlibs are trying to focus on ANYTHING other than the dementia report.

Very poor spin attempt to try to defend the indefensible . Laughable.

 

[nelly02]

It's because objective people realize that he's actually calling on the NATO members to pay their fair share. It's not really an encouragement for Russia to attack someone, it's encouragement to pay what you've agreed or proceed at your own risk and don't expect to be bailed out. I don't like Trump but it really doesn't seem that controversial. Just seems like the Superlibs are trying to focus on ANYTHING other than the dementia report.

Translation: I'm a I hate trump but'er. It's totally fine for trump to hold our allies hostage. You stupid libs are just too sensitive

 

[artradley]

So he’s incapable of telling the truth, the words of sooooooo many of you over that last many years, but you’ve somehow figure out when to believe a man that is incapable of telling the truth.

Yes. It’s not very hard to do. He is a simple-minded, transparent little man. As are his followers.

 

[nelly02]

JFC you idiot.

“No, I would not protect you,” Mr. Trump recalled responding. “In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You’ve got to pay. You got to pay your bills.”

Let me correct my earlier statement. JFC you deplorable idiot.

Rs love it. They thrive off hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of trump telling someone else to pay their bills is next level. They absolutely love it

 

[Jan Itor]

And i think trump lies a lot, is too lazy to do many of the things he says he wants to do on his own but also thinks he will put people in place this time around that will do whatever Trump wants

True

 

[Jan Itor]

The point is his words as a President impact the entire world whether he's telling the truth or not. Last night you gave me this explanation of what he was doing:

This is what the world thinks:

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, in a written statement on February 11, said that “any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security, including that of the U.S., and puts American and European soldiers at increased risk."

European Leaders, White House Denounce Trump's Remarks On Russia, NATO

The White House, European leaders, and NATO condemned remarks by former U.S. President Donald Trump, who said that if he is reelected the United States might not defend alliance members from a potential Russian invasion if they don’t pay enough of their own defense.

www.rferl.org

I like how you ignore the main point I was making.

 

[SocraticIshmael]

You couldn't fight yourself out of wet paper bag, snowflake. You should probably sit this one out.

🤣

Internet tough guy!

Blatant insecurity from a little, little man. I'm sorry you are so irrelevant, my fragile little friend.

🤏

 

[nelly02]

It’s why you have the alliance you moran. So you don’t have fight. It’s a freaking deterrent.

Watch out he's totally going to get you by asking if you would go fight in Lithuania. It's the sickest burn of all time

 

[SocraticIshmael]

Your non-answer is the answer.

🤣

Why do you show such entitlement? No one is obligated to answer the ridiculous, ungrounded questions of a simple-minded old bigot.

Your entitlement mirrors your privilege, and your incessant whining shows the metamorphosis of that privilege into rather pathetic white grievance.

You are a poorly educated, entitled, insecure, and bitter individual who the world is rapidly passing by.

No one owes you any response. You are worthy of none but laughter.

 

[globalhawk]

So he’s incapable of telling the truth, the words of sooooooo many of you over that last many years, but you’ve somehow figure out when to believe a man that is incapable of telling the truth.

This is dumb. Even for you.

 

[Huey Grey]

Jans right. Libs are the real ones to blame here. Shame on us for calling Trump a Russian lover instead of merely a big fat liar. When will we clean up our act?

 

[RileyHawk]

I did? Then you must have admitted to being a pussy too.

Yes, you did comrade. You're just too stupid to realize it.

 

[Jan Itor]

Jans right. Libs are the real ones to blame here. Shame on us for calling Trump a Russian lover instead of merely a big fat liar. When will we clean up our act?

That is not what I said. Go back and reread, or don’t. My point is if you’ve said many times that he’s a pathological liar and incapable of telling the truth, how can you believe him now? Makes no sense.

As for what he said, it was idiotic and dangerous. I’ve already touch on that in this thread.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Democracy

You want to talk about democracy now?

America’s Ukraine Hypocrisy​

The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking.

Despite his leadership defects and character flaws, Yanukovych had been duly elected in balloting that international observers considered reasonably free and fair—about the best standard one can hope for outside the mature Western democracies.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

 

[RileyHawk]

That is not what I said. Go back and reread, or don’t. My point is if you’ve said many times that he’s a pathological liar and incapable of telling the truth, how can you believe him now? Makes no sense.

As for what he said, it was idiotic and dangerous. I’ve already touch on that in this thread.

The point remains whether he is lying or not it's a terrible, stupid thing to say and should be called out.

Do you disagree with that?

 

[RileyHawk]

You want to talk about democracy now?

America’s Ukraine Hypocrisy​

The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

Sure. Why won't you answer questions but demand that others answer yours?

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

You want to talk about democracy now?

America’s Ukraine Hypocrisy​

The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking.

Despite his leadership defects and character flaws, Yanukovych had been duly elected in balloting that international observers considered reasonably free and fair—about the best standard one can hope for outside the mature Western democracies.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

Ukraine isn’t NATO, Butch

 

[artradley]

Would you go over to Lithuania to fight Russia?

When I was of fighting age I sure as hell would have. JFC how can you be so insular? I have zero doubt that ten years ago you were an ardent supporter of protecting and supporting all of Europe. But you are taking your direction from Trump now, and have adopted the kind of attitude that is not only cavalier and irresponsible, it is exactly the attitude that allowed Hitler to damn near conquer the world.

 

[Scott559]

@NorthernHawkeye, Have you always been an Isolationist or is this part of you going all in on Maga? Just curious if you would have supported the United States involvement in WW1,WW2 in Europe, The Korean War and the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait?

 

[Tom Paris]

It's one of the most astounding declarations ever said by someone running for President. It should decisively end his campaign. How do Republicans hear this and not instantly drop their support of him?

This is nothing like the Republican Party I knew would protect American interests. That party is long gone.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Ukraine isn’t NATO, Butch

Never said they were.

 

[Tom Paris]

It's because objective people realize that he's actually calling on the NATO members to pay their fair share. It's not really an encouragement for Russia to attack someone, it's encouragement to pay what you've agreed or proceed at your own risk and don't expect to be bailed out. I don't like Trump but it really doesn't seem that controversial. Just seems like the Superlibs are trying to focus on ANYTHING other than the dementia report.

Please explain how NATO countries are not paying their share.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

When I was of fighting age I sure as hell would have. JFC how can you be so insular? I have zero doubt that ten years ago you were an ardent supporter of protecting and supporting all of Europe. But you are taking your direction from Trump now, and have adopted the kind of attitude that is not only cavalier and irresponsible, it is exactly the attitude that allowed Hitler to damn near conquer the world.

Utter nonsense.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

@NorthernHawkeye, Have you always been an Isolationist or is this part of you going all in on Maga? Just curious if you would have supported the United States involvement in WW1,WW2 in Europe, The Korean War and the Iranian invasion of Kuwait?

I have long been a non-interventionist. I can think of very few engagements that can be justified.

 

[Tom Paris]

Supports Putin.

 

[HawkinK.C.1]

Please explain how NATO countries are not paying their share.

The scenario in the clip being tweeted is that the President of another country allegedly asks, "What happens if we don't pay our share?" You get that, right?

 

[Tom Paris]

Trump bloviating to trigger the libs. It worked.

Ohhhhh….you think Trump’s smart.

 

[Tom Paris]

The scenario in the clip being tweeted is that the President of another country allegedly asks, "What happens if we don't pay our share?" You get that, right?

Please explain what that fair share is? I know you don’t understand what it is other NATO countries pay.

 

[Tom Paris]

Would you go over to Lithuania to fight Russia?

Now you don’t understand how the military works. Or loyalty. Or honor.

 

[Scott559]

I have long been a non-interventionist. I can think of very few engagements that can be justified.

So the examples I cited, Justified or not?

 

[Tom Paris]

I thought Trump was a pathological liar? That he was incapable of telling the truth.

Lol comrade.

 

[Tom Paris]

When I was of fighting age I sure as hell would have. JFC how can you be so insular? I have zero doubt that ten years ago you were an ardent supporter of protecting and supporting all of Europe. But you are taking your direction from Trump now, and have adopted the kind of attitude that is not only cavalier and irresponsible, it is exactly the attitude that allowed Hitler to damn near conquer the world.

100%. He disagrees with anyone who disagrees with Trump, even those he fully agreed with for decades. Liz Cheney is a perfect example.

 

[ThorneStockton]

It's just amazing what lengths people are willing to debase themselves on Trump's behalf. His whole movement would make more sense if it was actually just his experiment of what lengths his followers are willing to go, how much can he make them twist without them flinching.


And lol at jan holding up a mirror. I don't doubt that he thinks that's what he's doing, and I believe he may have once been capable in his younger years, but it's a sad performance in this thread.

 

[RollingBallofButcherKnives]

Never said they were.

Then what’s the relevancy?

 

[Jan Itor]

@NorthernHawkeye, Have you always been an Isolationist or is this part of you going all in on Maga? Just curious if you would have supported the United States involvement in WW1,WW2 in Europe, The Korean War and the Iranian invasion of Kuwait?

Iran invaded Kuwait?

 

[praguehawk]

That is the absolute worst use of that gif I can remember. You are just terrible at this.

 

[artradley]

Utter nonsense.

It is 100% true, and at some level, that you are probably ashamed of, you know it's true.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

🤣

Why do you show such entitlement? No one is obligated to answer the ridiculous, ungrounded questions of a simple-minded old bigot.

Your entitlement mirrors your privilege, and your incessant whining shows the metamorphosis of that privilege into rather pathetic white grievance.

You are a poorly educated, entitled, insecure, and bitter individual who the world is rapidly passing by.

No one owes you any response. You are worthy of none but laughter.

CRT class just get let out?

 

[Tom Paris]

CRT class just get let out?

Explain to us what that is.