Hundreds feared dead in strike on Gaza hospital

[anon_b29nm7v7dwp6r]

Some of us have been telling you all this for quite some time now.

Well I mean to be fair, I’m not saying the MAGA nuts are acceptable either.

 

[BlIIlken2]

 

[GlenHawk]

What is your personal experience with Palestinians that led you to that belief?

It's not my belief, it's the truth. This hatred is literally taught in schools in Palestine

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[RicoSuave102954]

An attack on the al-Ahli Hospital in the middle of Gaza City is believed to have killed hundreds of people, a spokesman for the Palestinian Civil Defense told The Washington Post. Meanwhile, bombardments by the Israel Defense Forces on Tuesday hit southern parts of the Gaza Strip — an area the IDF has demanded that Gazans from the north relocate to in anticipation of its expected offensive in the north against Hamas. As many as 1 million people may have been displaced from the north of the enclave, aid agencies say. Several Western leaders announced plans to travel to Israel this week in a show of support ahead of the country’s expected ground offensive in the Gaza Strip and to plead for humanitarian relief for Gaza. President Biden said he would visit Israel on Wednesday to show solidarity with the U.S. ally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/17/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza/

So?

If I remember correctly (and I do) the Palestinians aka Hamas started this.

How many of those alleged hundreds killed would have no problem slicing off the head of an Israeli baby if they weren't in the hospital?

Probably all of them, every single one.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

If a majority of Americans elected a government with the avowed and written-into-the-law aim of either killing or kicking out every Mexican and Canadian in North America, then went across the border into those two countries and murdered, raped and kidnapped women and children from those two countries, I think I would understand it if those two countries then rained bombs down on Chicago, New York, LA, etc.

Not remotely close to the truth but what could I expect from a grifter.

 

[Aardvark86]

Fog of war

yep. sometimes its produced by a fog machine, sometimes by an explosion

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Hamas blew up the Hospital.

MSN

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Hamas blew up the Hospital.

MSN

Wouldn’t surprise me. They basically condemned their own people to death when they started it. They can’t compete with Israel so they have to make it ugly and dirty in hopes of public opinion being their weapon.

 

[Huey Grey]

Do you think they're targeting civilians? I really doubt it.

Gaza is made up of 40% children. They've cut off fuel for the sole power plant leading to no water and no electricity. They are absolutely targeting civilians.

 

[Colonoscopy]

Gaza is made up of 40% children. They're now bombing hospitals. And this was after cutting off fuel for the sole power plant leading to no water and no electricity. They are absolutely targeting civilians.

Sigh. Of course Hamas is known to hide amongst civilians for the purpose of deterring fire. How can you not know this?

 

[Ree4]

If a majority of Americans elected a government with the avowed and written-into-the-law aim of either killing or kicking out every Mexican and Canadian in North America, then went across the border into those two countries and murdered, raped and kidnapped women and children from those two countries, I think I would understand it if those two countries then rained bombs down on Chicago, New York, LA, etc.

Hard to tell if you're talking about Israel or Hamas here. Both have done this.

 

[Huey Grey]

Sigh. Of course Hamas is known to hide amongst civilians for the purpose of deterring fire. How can you not know this?

So you admit that they are crippling civilians in the hopes they also hit Hamas?

 

[Ree4]

Let's hold our horses folks...The IDF is denying they hit the hospital. They're blaming the hospital attack on a failed rocket barrage from Islamic Jihad in Gaza.

Denied right after they took responsibility for it...

 

[Huey Grey]

Denied right after they took responsibility for it...

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Its stuff like this that kills Israel's credibility. First they bomb a hospital. Then lie and claim that Palestine bombed themselves?

And Hamas is even worse. They are knowingly using children as pawns in their sadistic game. What a complete cluster.

 

[torbee]

Hard to tell if you're talking about Israel or Hamas here. Both have done this.

Yup

 

[torbee]

So you admit that they are crippling civilians in the hopes they also hit Hamas?

No, they are hitting Hamas with indifference toward crippling civilians.

A distinction with little to no meaning? Perhaps.

But a distinction nonetheless.

 

[Ree4]

Its stuff like this that kills Israel's credibility. First they bomb a hospital. Then lie and claim that Palestine bombed themselves?

And Hamas is even worse. They are knowingly using children as pawns in their sadistic game. What a complete cluster.

It's so hard to know what to believe, seems like everything Israel or IDF says is taken at face value, then something like this happens (all the time mind you) and makes you think twice.

 

[Huey Grey]

No, they are hitting Hamas with indifference toward crippling civilians.

A distinction with little to no meaning? Perhaps.

But a distinction nonetheless.

I would argue it's a distinction with zero meaning. Basically, Hamas is willing to kill both Israeli and Palestinian civilians. Whereas, Israel is willing to kill only Palestinian civilians. Israel appears better. But only because the other side is so much worse.

 

[im4hawks50595]

Its stuff like this that kills Israel's credibility. First they bomb a hospital. Then lie and claim that Palestine bombed themselves?

And Hamas is even worse. They are knowingly using children as pawns in their sadistic game. What a complete cluster.

look at the video if that is current and legit it was a stray rocket from hamas

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Oh come on, Ciggy.

Israel warned 1 million Palestinians to move south.

Genocide doesn't give warnings first.

I would rather vote for Trump than give any sympathy to Palestinians.

 

[Ree4]

It doesn't seem to be a deterrent to Israel. Have you seen images of Gaza? Israel has obliterated large parts of Gaza, killing thousands. This isn't meant to defend Hamas. They are pieces of shit, but I'm baffled that you can't also see the ruthlessness of the Israel's military as well.

Having blinders on to Israel is the standard amongst a certain crowd.

 

[SB_SB]

Gaza is made up of 40% children. They've cut off fuel for the sole power plant leading to no water and no electricity. They are absolutely targeting civilians.

Using your numbers that leaves 60% that aren't children that are adults and those 60% are targeting children on the other side.

 

[dgordo]

This is bau for hamas, they will kill all the residents of gaza if they can blame it on israel.

 

[Ree4]

I keep seeing this brought up but I am not buying the narrative it's trying to paint.

The pushback on a two-state solution from the Palestinian side goes back generations. Yasser Arafat and the PA committed to negotiating an end to the conflict based on a two-state solution back in the early 90s and Hamas responded by bombing Israeli citizens in protest. A decade and many terrorist attacks later, the Palestinians elected that group to lead their people.

So are we supposed to believe that this new generation of Palestinians, who have rarely condemned Hamas or its actions, is somehow different and more open to peace talks than the people who raised them?

Again, this hatred is taught and it's taught at a young age - see the video of Palestinian children talking about how they are ready to stab, bomb, and kill Jews.

With that said, I do know there are plenty of Palestinians who don't support Hamas, and I hope those people and their families are able to escape Gaza and find safety before they are used as martyrs.

You seem to conveniently have left out that Netanyahu very minimally incited the assassination of Rabin, if not being culpable of it after those peace accords were signed.

 

[SB_SB]

Having blinders on to Israel is the standard amongst a certain crowd.

Keep promoting your hamas killers, it fits your personality.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

This was part of the Hamas plan all along. Hamas committed despicable acts with the plan to use their own people as human shields to try and create horror for political gain.

Israel needs to keep pushing and end this shit once and for all.

Amen.

 

[Ree4]

Keep promoting your hamas killers, it fits your personality.

Keep completely lacking in any ability to reason by thinking that criticism of Israel is praise for Hamas. FFS my 7th grader understands the idea that both don't have to be mutual exclusive. Pure intellectual laziness (or ineptitude) on your part.

 

[SB_SB]

So you admit that they are crippling civilians in the hopes they also hit Hamas?

Really that's your conclusion? Some of you people seem to forget about all the hostages that hamas still has. Israel has the right to kill every hamas fighter in order to get those hostages. hamas has not gone into hiding they're still firing rockets and at Israel, and you expect Israel to do nothing. That's total BS.

 

[SB_SB]

Keep completely lacking in any ability to reason by thinking that criticism of Israel is praise for Hamas. FFS my 7th grader understands the idea that both don't have to be mutual exclusive. Pure intellectual laziness (or ineptitude) on your part.

Intellectual laziness is just sitting back and criticizing.

 

[SI_NYC]

How would you suggest they fight an urban campaign against terrorist group/government that shields themselves behind civilian infrastructure?

I’m genuinely asking. Gaza is a nightmare to operate in. I can’t see any good way to fight Hamas.

I think the way Israel should have responded would take time as it would be in a more convert manner, but that wouldn't satisfy the masses now. In honesty, it's a no win situation.

I could turn it around and ask how do you expect Palestinians to fight for their right to not to be imprisoned in the small area of Gaza for 17+ years against a military power like Israel? Hasid settlers have been slowly taking more and more of what little land Palestine has. How do you combat that? Once again, I'm not defending Hamas. What they did is deplorable but I don't see that great of a difference in what Israel is now doing to Gaza to what Hamas did, outside of Hamas' killings were of a more personal manner in comparison to Israel sending rockets into Gaza. Either way, innocent people are dying.

 

[hydro2.0]

This is bau for hamas, they will kill all the residents of gaza if they can blame it on israel.

Have you been called back to the homeland?

 

[NorthernHawkyesWife]

Wouldn’t shock me if hamas did this for propaganda purposes

Speaking of propaganda, look at you spreading it.

 

[Huey Grey]

Really that's your conclusion? Some of you people seem to forget about all the hostages that hamas still has. Israel has the right to kill every hamas fighter in order to get those hostages. hamas has not gone into hiding they're still firing rockets and at Israel, and you expect Israel to do nothing. That's total BS.

I see that you haven't bothered to read the rest of my points in this thread. What Israel is doing is terrible. What Hamas is doing is even worse.

 

[SI_NYC]

It's not my belief, it's the truth. This hatred is literally taught in schools in Palestine

These are all Pre-October 7th:

UN Teachers Call To Murder Jews, Reveals New Report - UN Watch

UNRWA schools funded by US and EU indoctrinate Palestinian children to antisemitism, hate and violence CLICK FOR REPORT WASHINGTON, March 14, 2023 — Teachers and schools at the UN agency that runs education and social services for Palestinians regularly call to murder Jews, and create teaching...

unwatch.org

Anti-Semitism in Palestinian School Textbooks Table of Contents

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Opinion | Palestinian textbooks are (still) teaching students to hate Jews

The latest edition of Palestinian textbooks do teach about human rights and dignity for all, except when it comes to Israelis.

forward.com

https://icjw.org/about-icjw/international-representation/unrwa-stop-teaching-hate/

Comprehensive Report Reveals Endemic Hate Education in Palestinian Schools | Christians United for Israel

Palestinian children are being systematically taught to hate Jewish Israelis and violently resist a Jewish presence in Israel, a comprehensive review of Palestinian school textbooks has found. The study, by […]

cufi.org

There are dozens of more articles if you're really interested in learning more about it.

The hate is taught on both sides. It's disingenuous to say otherwise. That's what happens when you have a no win situation where blood has been spilled.

 

[Ree4]

I see that you haven't bothered to read the rest of my points in this thread. What Israel is doing is terrible. What Hamas is doing is even worse.

I dont think reading and comprehending is his strong suit. He caan read one sentence and then he's off to bastardize whatever he thinks the poster meant.

 

[SB_SB]

I see that you haven't bothered to read the rest of my points in this thread. What Israel is doing is terrible. What Hamas is doing is even worse.

So what are you expecting Israel to do at this point? Just give up and forget about the hostages? Fire rockets into open space? What's the plan?

 

[alaskanseminole]

So the OP ran with "strike" which is a military term for a planned (intentional) attack on a target; however, from what I've read it's still a he said, she said situation:

KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip (AP) — A massive blast rocked a Gaza City hospital packed with wounded and other Palestinians seeking shelter Tuesday, killing hundreds of people, the Hamas-run Health Ministry said. Hamas blamed an Israeli airstrike, while the Israeli military said the hospital was hit by a rocket misfired by Palestinian militants.

After blast kills hundreds at Gaza hospital, Hamas and Israel trade blame as rage spreads in region

The Hamas-run Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip says at least 500 have been killed in an explosion that it says was caused by an Israeli airstrike.

apnews.com

 

[Huey Grey]

So what are you expecting Israel to do at this point? Just give up and forget about the hostages? Fire rockets into open space? What's the plan?

Idk. What is the plan? Because killing kids doesn't seem like a good plan to me. Hamas doesn't give a shit about the kids. So how does it hurt them to take the kids out?

 

[pepsicock]

Yep. It's starting to look an awful lot like genocide.

Hamas put babies in a pile and burned them a a live

 

[Colonoscopy]

Idk. What is the plan? Because killing kids doesn't seem like a good plan to me. Hamas doesn't give a shit about the kids. So how does it hurt them to take the kids out?

Because it takes Hamas out too you ****ing idiot.

Israel is obviously going wherever Hamas goes in effort to take out Hamas. If there is civilian death as collateral, so be it.

Anyone with half a brain understands this