Hundreds feared dead in strike on Gaza hospital

[SB_SB]

Idk. What is the plan? Because killing kids doesn't seem like a good plan to me. Hamas doesn't give a shit about the kids. So how does it hurt them to take the kids out?

So you have no plan other than for Israel to sit and take it and have their people killed. Israel's responsibility is to it's people and to stop hamas from killing more Israelis. This is an active war zone, so people are getting hurt on both sides. The plan is to kill enough hamas soldiers to end the war and get back the hostages. I'm not sure why you seem to think that Israel's plan is to kill kids.

I guarantee that if Mexico was firing rockets into the US from a large Mexican City, our military would take out any part of that city where rockets were being shot from.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

An attack on the al-Ahli Hospital in the middle of Gaza City is believed to have killed hundreds of people, a spokesman for the Palestinian Civil Defense told The Washington Post. Meanwhile, bombardments by the Israel Defense Forces on Tuesday hit southern parts of the Gaza Strip — an area the IDF has demanded that Gazans from the north relocate to in anticipation of its expected offensive in the north against Hamas. As many as 1 million people may have been displaced from the north of the enclave, aid agencies say. Several Western leaders announced plans to travel to Israel this week in a show of support ahead of the country’s expected ground offensive in the Gaza Strip and to plead for humanitarian relief for Gaza. President Biden said he would visit Israel on Wednesday to show solidarity with the U.S. ally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/17/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza/

Sounds like good start!

 

[SB_SB]

I dont think reading and comprehending is his strong suit. He caan read one sentence and then he's off to bastardize whatever he thinks the poster meant.

Both of you have already said you have no plan, all you have is criticism for Israel. I'm guessing you have a thing about Jewish people or you wouldn't be taking the stance that you are.

 

[SI_NYC]

Because it takes Hamas out too you ****ing idiot.

Israel is obviously going wherever Hamas goes in effort to take out Hamas. If there is civilian death as collateral, so be it.

Anyone with half a brain understands this

I doubt Hamas leadership is still in Gaza if they ever were.

 

[Colonoscopy]

I doubt Hamas leadership is still in Gaza if they ever were.

Please. They have lots of terrorist fighters in Gaza. Israel is trying wipe them all out. Again obvious stuff.

 

[DooBi]

Gaza is made up of 40% children. They've cut off fuel for the sole power plant leading to no water and no electricity. They are absolutely targeting civilians.

I keep seeing it said that they cut off electricity but every video of the war at night has lights all over the place. It doesn't make sense. I'm not arguing your point in this post (although I disagree with it). I'm just wondering about the claims that there is no electricity.

 

[SI_NYC]

Please. They have lots of terrorist fighters in Gaza. Israel is trying wipe them all out. Again obvious stuff.

Leadership, I said. The foot soldiers are still in Gaza, I'm sure. Leadership is in Iran, Lebanon or Egypt.

 

[Huey Grey]

Because it takes Hamas out too you ****ing idiot.

Israel is obviously going wherever Hamas goes in effort to take out Hamas. If there is civilian death as collateral, so be it.

Anyone with half a brain understands this

I've already acknowledged this. I've acknowledged this in multiple threads. It's clear that you're not reading what I actually post. So what's the point of continuing a discussion with you?

 

[Colonoscopy]

I've already acknowledged this. I've acknowledged this in multiple threads. It's clear that you're not reading what I actually post. So what's the point of continuing a discussion with you?

You used language that didn't imply that understanding. In fact, I read it suggesting differently

 

[Huey Grey]

I keep seeing it said that they cut off electricity but every video of the war at night has lights all over the place. It doesn't make sense. I'm not arguing your point in this post (although I disagree with it). I'm just wondering about the claims that there is no electricity.

Portable generators and batteries are common in Gaza. Has been this way for a long time. Their grid is unreliable so they supplement with home systems.

 

[Huey Grey]

You used language that didn't imply that understanding. In fact, I read it suggesting differently

The language where I said that Hamas doesn't give a shit about kids and is willing to use Palestinians as pawns? You really need it clearer that that?

 

[GlenHawk]

The hate is taught on both sides. It's disingenuous to say otherwise. That's what happens when you have a no win situation where blood has been spilled.

Obviously, Israel has its share of extreme Zionists but that type of hate isn't being taught nearly as openly and widely as it is in Palestine.

Did you read any of the articles that I linked in the post you responded to?

The current materials used to educate over half a million Palestinian children are a major obstacle to peace between Israel and the Palestinians... Their curriculum must change drastically if there is ever to be a lasting negotiated peace between Israelis and Palestinians. Why? Because these schools have been inciting three generations of young Palestinians to hate and kill Jews, to revere martyrs, and aspire to jihad. Parents of current students have been educated in the same schools, as have many of the 30,000 teachers employed by UNRWA. Perhaps most importantly, the education curriculum teaches that the so-called Palestinian Right of Return is to be achieved by war.​

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https://icjw.org/about-icjw/international-representation/unrwa-stop-teaching-hate/

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I don't believe that over half of a million Israeli students are being taught a curriculum that includes hating the Palestinians, wishing death upon them, or glorifying martyrs and fighting the enemies of Judaism. In my opinion, to try and use the "both sides" argument in this scenario is disingenuous.

 

[Colonoscopy]

The language where I said that Hamas doesn't give a shit about kids and is willing to use Palestinians as pawns? You really need it clearer that that?

You seemed to state that it doesn't hurt Hamas to take kids out. Kids only get taken out in effort to take Hamas out. Collateral

 

[PapaTed]

Speaking of propaganda, look at you spreading it.

Nope. Hamas has a history of this. I’m speaking facts

 

[SB_SB]

I've already acknowledged this. I've acknowledged this in multiple threads. It's clear that you're not reading what I actually post. So what's the point of continuing a discussion with you?

let me try to give you an example of how you're coming across. You're like Whiskey(or pick another republican poster), they'll acknowledge that trump is bad, but they spend their whole time attacking Biden and saying how bad democrats are. So for the republican posters it just seems like all they want to do is criticize Biden for anything no matter how bad the other side is. That's what it seems like you're doing, you come across as someone who is just taking the opportunity to criticize Israel.

 

[Huey Grey]

let me try to give you an example of how you're coming across. You're like Whiskey(or pick another republican poster), they'll acknowledge that trump is bad, but they spend their whole time attacking Biden and saying how bad democrats are. So for the republican posters it just seems like all they want to do is criticize Biden for anything no matter how bad the other side is. That's what it seems like you're doing, you come across as someone who is just taking the opportunity to criticize Israel.

Ive stated point blank multiple times that Hamas is far worse than Israel. I've said this in multiple posts in this thread. I've said this in multiple threads. What's up with you two? Whatever you've got going on clearly has nothing to do with me. I've said the opposite of what you both claim. At this point I'm hanging up on both of you in this thread. If you're not going to read my posts it's a waste of my time to engage you.

 

[SB_SB]

Ive stated point blank multiple times that Hamas is far worse than Israel. I've said this in multiple posts in this thread. I've said this in multiple threads. What's up with you two? Whatever you've got going on clearly has nothing to do with me. I've said the opposite of what you both claim. At this point I'm hanging up on both of you in this thread. If you're not going to read my posts it's a waste of my time to engage you.

Yes you say that hamas is worse but that's all you say about them. Everything else is about what Israel is doing. Like my last post, you come across as someone who will acknowledge that trump is the worst person but then spend all your time posting negative things about Biden. Just like some people just have to always be critical of Biden, you seem to always need to be critical of Israel. That's what makes me think you have a general problem with Israel, you'll just never be able to back them.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

Anyone ever wonder how it is that there are sooooooo many "children" in Gaza? I mean, we keep hearing about how terrible and insufferable the conditions are there...a desert of economic waste with no opportunity or means to earn a living, yet, it would seem every other inhabitant is an innocent child sought out by these falling bombs of retribution. How can this be? Who would bring these children into such a blighted environment, unless they were absolutely stupid, and/or they think they are breeding future terrorists to serve almighty, goat phucking all-uh and murder Jews? If the latter is the case, then they all deserve to be vaporized......

 

[mnole03]

I think the way Israel should have responded would take time as it would be in a more convert manner, but that wouldn't satisfy the masses now. In honesty, it's a no win situation.

I could turn it around and ask how do you expect Palestinians to fight for their right to not to be imprisoned in the small area of Gaza for 17+ years against a military power like Israel? Hasid settlers have been slowly taking more and more of what little land Palestine has. How do you combat that? Once again, I'm not defending Hamas. What they did is deplorable but I don't see that great of a difference in what Israel is now doing to Gaza to what Hamas did, outside of Hamas' killings were of a more personal manner in comparison to Israel sending rockets into Gaza. Either way, innocent people are dying.

I honestly don’t know how I would handle it on either side, but violence certainly isn’t going to dissuade Israel.

 

[dgordo]

Have you been called back to the homeland?

lol no im 100% american

 

[dgordo]

 

[Chuck C]

It doesn’t look like it was Israel

 

[Ree4]

Both of you have already said you have no plan, all you have is criticism for Israel. I'm guessing you have a thing about Jewish people or you wouldn't be taking the stance that you are.

You clearly love to make crazy unsubstantiated assumptions, just make up whatever you want. It's hard to tell if you're trolling or actually believe what you're posting. It's pointless to have any type of conversation with you when you're so unhinged. Come back when you're ready to have anything that resembles basic discourse.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Don't know if this clears anything up one way or another

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Guess they shouldn’t be putting rocket launchers near hospitals….

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Leadership, I said. The foot soldiers are still in Gaza, I'm sure. Leadership is in Iran, Lebanon or Egypt.

Qatar

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Yep. It's starting to look an awful lot like genocide.

Wrong

 

[FAUlty Gator]

So you admit that they are crippling civilians in the hopes they also hit Hamas?

They know that leaving Hamas intact means more dead Israeli citizens soon. So, they’ve chosen the citizens of Gaza to die instead. And you’re right. It’s awful.

 

[SB_SB]

You clearly love to make crazy unsubstantiated assumptions, just make up whatever you want. It's hard to tell if you're trolling or actually believe what you're posting. It's pointless to have any type of conversation with you when you're so unhinged. Come back when you're ready to have anything that resembles basic discourse.

Anyone who feels that Israel is the problem is someone who has an issue with Jewish people. But you just keep defending hamas and blaming Israel.

 

[RicoSuave102954]

So you admit that they are crippling civilians in the hopes they also hit Hamas?

Civilians?

Are you telling me you didn't know Hamas members are civilians? They dress like civilians, the mingle with civilians and they are civilians.

Most everyone in Gaza is a Hamas member or supports Hamas.

Israel is targeting the enemy plain and simple.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

So....to interject real quick.... We don't have any definitive idea yet who caused the massive loss of life at the hospital. That's indisputable. We might never know. So, what's all chaos in this thread about?

 

[TonyTheTiger.1865]

Islamic Jihad dropped a rocket on the hospital.
How good do you think the training and attention to detail is with those clowns. They make rockets out of water pipes for gods sake.
I doubt an American built JDAM wandered off course. Although I am sure HAMAS is trying to find parts from one to move to the hospital.

 

[TonyTheTiger.1865]

There are a lot of overhead assets looking down at Gaza right now. They all know who is responsible. All the crap on social media is to convince the idiots with their existing biases.

 

[Huey Grey]

You clearly love to make crazy unsubstantiated assumptions, just make up whatever you want. It's hard to tell if you're trolling or actually believe what you're posting. It's pointless to have any type of conversation with you when you're so unhinged. Come back when you're ready to have anything that resembles basic discourse.

Now you know how I feel. Even if you call out Hamas, call them human scum, and say that Israel needs to hit Hamas hard because Hamas won't stop, these two knuckleheads keep insisting you love Hamas and think that you're claiming that Israel shouldn't fight back simply because you think that hitting Hamas hard shouldn't include kids. It's absolutely pointless to engage them anymore.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

Islamic Jihad dropped a rocket on the hospital.
How good do you think the training and attention to detail is with those clowns. They make rockets out of water pipes for gods sake.
I doubt an American built JDAM wandered off course. Although I am sure HAMAS is trying to find parts from one to move to the hospital.

You're kidding, right? Untold numbers of "smart" American munitions have failed for decades. Welcome to an imperfect world. All that's know with certainty about the hospital in question is that we don't know what happened.

 

[biggreydogs]

 

[HawkInDC]

I’m smart enough to know most liberals hate Jews for some bizarre reason.

Are they self loathing? Or are you just a moron?

Overall, U.S. Jews remain largely Democratic and liberal​

Overall, about seven-in-ten identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, including 68% of Jews by religion and 77% of Jews of no religion. Just 26% of U.S. Jews overall identify with the Republican Party or lean toward the GOP.

8. U.S. Jews’ political views

Pew Research Center surveys, including the 2020 study, show that Jews are among the most consistently liberal and Democratic groups in the U.S.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Bro D]

Yikes

 

[SB_SB]

Now you know how I feel. Even if you call out Hamas, call them human scum, and say that Israel needs to hit Hamas hard because Hamas won't stop, these two knuckleheads keep insisting you love Hamas and think that you're claiming that Israel shouldn't fight back simply because you think that hitting Hamas hard shouldn't include kids. It's absolutely pointless to engage them anymore.

You've been implying that Israel's objective is to kill kids. If you have a better way for Israel to protect themselves, then speak up, but you don't. So you expect Israel it just allow hamas to kill as many Israeli's as they want. That tells me you don't give a sh!t about Israeli's. Tell me your plan or shut up about what Israel is doing.

 

[JimStarr777]

Are they self loathing? Or are you just a moron?

Overall, U.S. Jews remain largely Democratic and liberal​

Overall, about seven-in-ten identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, including 68% of Jews by religion and 77% of Jews of no religion. Just 26% of U.S. Jews overall identify with the Republican Party or lean toward the GOP.

8. U.S. Jews’ political views

Pew Research Center surveys, including the 2020 study, show that Jews are among the most consistently liberal and Democratic groups in the U.S.

www.pewresearch.org

Self-loathing I guess. Because, damn, liberals hate Jews for some unexplainable reason.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Now you know how I feel. Even if you call out Hamas, call them human scum, and say that Israel needs to hit Hamas hard because Hamas won't stop, these two knuckleheads keep insisting you love Hamas and think that you're claiming that Israel shouldn't fight back simply because you think that hitting Hamas hard shouldn't include kids. It's absolutely pointless to engage them anymore.

Kind of like how you accuse me of being MAGA.