Hundreds feared dead in strike on Gaza hospital
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In the light of day it’s a miracle….the hospital “undestroyed” itself over night!!
All the media and people that ran with whatever Hamas/Gaza said as the gospel truth should be ashamed of themselves.
Israel had to prove the baby thing….but if it comes from Gaza it’s immediately accepted as fact. It’s disgusting.
All the media and people that ran with whatever Hamas/Gaza said as the gospel truth should be ashamed of themselves.
Israel had to prove the baby thing….but if it comes from Gaza it’s immediately accepted as fact. It’s disgusting.
Yet another reason to calm the frack down and wait for facts instead of sensationalized, knee-jerk twitter comments (and the like).
In a televised news conference Wednesday, Israeli military spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari claimed a lack of structural damage at the hospital proved the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) were not involved in the explosion. He claimed IDF intelligence showed that Palestinian Islamic Jihad – a rival Islamist militant group to Hamas in Gaza – caused the explosion when one of its rockets launched at Israel misfired.
In a televised news conference Wednesday, Israeli military spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari claimed a lack of structural damage at the hospital proved the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) were not involved in the explosion. He claimed IDF intelligence showed that Palestinian Islamic Jihad – a rival Islamist militant group to Hamas in Gaza – caused the explosion when one of its rockets launched at Israel misfired.
Not going to bother going through the entire thread, but hope you had the balls to take that back
Are you always making randomly stupid statements or is this one an outlier?
It’s starting to look like we have a few posters in this thread with egg on their face this morning.
They gobbled up the Hamas propaganda without question even when we knew this was a common tactic for them. I hope they learn from it moving forward, because this won’t be the last attempt by Hamas to get your sympathy through lies and the sacrifice of their citizens.
They gobbled up the Hamas propaganda without question even when we knew this was a common tactic for them. I hope they learn from it moving forward, because this won’t be the last attempt by Hamas to get your sympathy through lies and the sacrifice of their citizens.
Because the IDF made a bunch of claims? GTFO with that. You think Israel hasn't targeted Palestinian hospitals in the past, including this one? I don't believe a word they say, and you shouldn't either. I don't believe a word that Hamas says, and you shouldn't either. That's what you numpties can't seem to get through your thick gourds.
Ya'll just want to "turn Gaza to glass", and somehow we're the inhumane folks. Unbelievable how brainwashed you've become to western media.
I neither fully believe, nor disbelieve, what either of them are saying at the moment, and am resigned to the idea that we probably won't really know. That said, to their credit, IDF is actually producing images, etc. associated with their position, which may or may not be deepfakes.
Either way, its effect is all that matters - the Arab world may be less inclined to work with us as an intermediary here on humanitarian corridors or the like, and "moderates" in the region are under severe pressure not to be, because their constituents definitely don't believe Israel..
Either way, its effect is all that matters - the Arab world may be less inclined to work with us as an intermediary here on humanitarian corridors or the like, and "moderates" in the region are under severe pressure not to be, because their constituents definitely don't believe Israel..
I fully agree with this, my concern is that from what I've seen of Fox and CNN and most mainstream media, they are mostly showing things from an Israeli perspective - and have since this started. You don't hear, really ever what Israel does to Palestinians when they aren't at "war" - over the last 15 years.
That's mostly what a lot of us are saying, that while Israel was clearly the victim over the events that happened on 10/7 and the days following, what they've done to Gaza prior has been pretty bad as well and can't be ignored.
No, I don't think Israel seeks out and targets civilian hospitals in Palestine that aren't already set up as Hamas hideouts. If you can find a time when the IDF simply targeted a civilian hospital without a present terrorist threat, please share the link.
I've already provided you with the information about how and why Hamas uses their own civilians as human shields. It's to rally and fire up the other Muslim nations and to con western numpties like yourself into the "both sides are bad" mindset.
Finally, I have never said that Israel is entirely innocent in all of this. Far from it. However, they are the only side that appears to want any sort of peaceful resolution and aren't calling for the eradication of all Palestinians.
Indeed, peace is, after all, considerably less interesting than war. And particularly if you can spend your time dissecting the problems of peace within your own country, where they sell very well, and can be cultivated more cheaply.
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Has it been? I honestly don't know, but it sure needs to be if not. That twitter handle has been behind a lot of misinformation, like the live Aljazeera feed "that showed the missile misfiring" when it did nothing of the sort.
I don't know either which is why I said "needs" to be. These are the times I sincerely miss working at NSA. My daughter's at NSA-W, but of course she can't tell me squat. LOL
I'm at the mercy of open source intel just like everyone else now.
Ultimately, it will be very interesting to see whether the results of the US's own "independent" investigation of the incident are ultimately made public once concluded.
What I'm saying and what so many are missing is that Israel can bomb a hospital (or anything else for that matter) then claim terrorist threat, or human shield or w/e and will be believed - just because it's happened before. THAT is the main problem.
For sure, I thought about it last night and ultimately I think I would have to believe them. We know the US government has lied in the past though, but they wouldn't lie about this, right?
Oh, I dunno, I think that's demonstratively false. First, in the west/US, while the media have certainly published the Israelis' side of things, I don't think there's any thing suggesting it's been swallowed hook, line and sinker. Second, outside the west/US, well...the presumption of belief tends to operate VERY differently.
So are you gonna link us to that time the IDF targeted a civilian hospital without a terrorist threat from within or not?
IMO, only if the US was fully committed to a Total War strategy in the broader mideast. Because even if they conclude the israelis did hit it, there's plenty of other excuses, ranging from fog of war to legitimacy of the target.
So what's your stance now, and do you still believe anything anyone from Hamas says? I sure as the hell don't and never did.
You can't discuss this with ree4 because he hates Jews. He hates Muslims too but he really hates Jews. That's why everything he posts is negative things about Israel and will always view them as the bad guys even when they're defending themselves.
Problem is facts matter. Ok a digital spokes person misspoke. Hamas lied stating it came from isreal when it came from their own attackers who were shooting rockets right by the hospital.
1. Show Hamas is utilizing hospital and other civilian structures to operate from to attack Isreal, because if they attack back its a blackeye on Isreal.
2. Shows Hamas is willing to lie to further their propaganda.
I found this comment by Huey so hypocritical haha. I’ve been accused of being MAGA many times even tho I despise the guy haha. There are numerous posters in here that do it
Yes, I did. You arrogantly think that the rest of us don't understand that the IDF is also capable of lying. You also think all of our understanding of the situation doesn't go past what we hear through the mainstream media, and you're very wrong.
Honest question. Based on past events and all of the information that's been released from both sides since yesterday, who are you more inclined to believe? Don't give me the "I don't trust either" BS, I want an answer. One side is lying. Who do you think it is?
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Jesus. It would be helpful if they spoke English for stuff like this. Selfish.
It is looking more and more like the strike did not come from the Israelis. However that does not change the fact that Israel did conduct strikes in the south where they had urged Palestinians to evacuate to from the north. I don't believe everything that Hamas says, but I also don't believe that everything they say is a lie.
At first I thought you were a racist, but now I see you're also a conspiracy person who thinks everyone is out to get you and lie to you.
Hamas attacked Israel first. Has used hospitals to fire from, including schools and other civilian structures. Yes 1 attack appears to be in a safe area, however Hamas is trying to drum up this War. What is Israel to do? Let them continue attacking Israel? try to attack Hamas but will cause some civilian deaths? Have to defend themselves from lies from Hamas? Hamas is a terrorist organization and was upset that with Saudi Arabia Israel was becoming integrated.
Hamas wanted this. They wanted Israel to kill their own people and they are improving those odds by using them as human shields.
Think about that. A military using their own citizens as shields because they know they enemy has higher morals than they do.
It’s fricking pathetic and why it’s best if Israel goes all the way with this at this time.
Remember, Bill Clinton brokered a deal that would have given Palestinian’s 97% of the land they wanted. Arafat refused to sign it, because death or removal of all Israel citizens is the only thing truly acceptable.
Think about that. A military using their own citizens as shields because they know they enemy has higher morals than they do.
It’s fricking pathetic and why it’s best if Israel goes all the way with this at this time.
Remember, Bill Clinton brokered a deal that would have given Palestinian’s 97% of the land they wanted. Arafat refused to sign it, because death or removal of all Israel citizens is the only thing truly acceptable.
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Exactly, now is the time to get rid of Hamas for good. Otherwise Israel will be right back in the same position down the road.
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