I keep seeing/ hearing Hawkeye fans saying this about Padilla
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I’ve had a lot of Padilla fans attacking me in this thread which goes to show the power of the headline and first sentence in today’s social landscape 😳
I put him 3rd to last on my list. Ahead of Paul Burmeister and Kyle McCann. He is slow, inaccurate, and has no pocket presence. Yes the O line is bad. But if Petras stays in the game this past Saturday we lose that game. He wouldn't start at UNI.
What’s frustrating is that Petras has played well at times, has a beautiful deep ball, etc. I gave him a pass for last year because of all the insanity surrounding the football program, impacting his ability to prep for the season. He gradually improved as the season wore on after a bad start. This year…idk if it’s due to the Line struggles, but he has clearly lost confidence and needs everything to run on schedule in order to do well. Padilla, whether it was due to just not being worn down or what, simply looked crisper with everything.
Yeah, you can get away with Petras not moving in the pocket if the line is blocking well, but if the opposing defense know exactly where the qb is going to be…that just makes things so much easier for a pass rush. Just aim for 7 yards behind the center.
I wouldn't read too much ... either way, as it relates to Padilla's performance.
I'm happy that he was able to help lead the team to a victory.
I think that it was clearly a learning experience for the young man ... plenty of negatives to go along with the positives. I think and expect that he'll learn and grow from the experience.
I don't think that Padilla's performance was as great as some Petras-critics have articulated. Also, I believe that critiques of Petras's poor play should be fair and couched appropriately in context.
What some fans need to realize is that our poor blocking has arguably (and, from my vantage, obviously) had a deleterious impact on Petras's development. Part of that is also attributable to Petras's lack of mobility. If he doesn't have a clean pocket ... his quality of play suffers accordingly. Obviously, it suffers even more when he's dinged too.
Anyhow, Padilla is stuck entering games at a non-ideal time for him in terms of development ... because the OL still obviously has issues. However, given that Padilla is more nimble on his feet ... he is more apt to make lemonade given the lemons that the OL gives him. Reciprocally ... that might given the OL a little more "hope" that they have wiggle-room ... and Padilla's presence might given them an added spark ("hope" can do that).
Despite the non-ideal circumstances, Padilla is now being given an opportunity to make decisions hard on the coaches from here on out. For a player ... that's as much as you can ask for.
Should be interesting to see how things play out. Good luck to all the Hawks (both Padilla and Petras included)!
I'm happy that he was able to help lead the team to a victory.
I think that it was clearly a learning experience for the young man ... plenty of negatives to go along with the positives. I think and expect that he'll learn and grow from the experience.
I don't think that Padilla's performance was as great as some Petras-critics have articulated. Also, I believe that critiques of Petras's poor play should be fair and couched appropriately in context.
What some fans need to realize is that our poor blocking has arguably (and, from my vantage, obviously) had a deleterious impact on Petras's development. Part of that is also attributable to Petras's lack of mobility. If he doesn't have a clean pocket ... his quality of play suffers accordingly. Obviously, it suffers even more when he's dinged too.
Anyhow, Padilla is stuck entering games at a non-ideal time for him in terms of development ... because the OL still obviously has issues. However, given that Padilla is more nimble on his feet ... he is more apt to make lemonade given the lemons that the OL gives him. Reciprocally ... that might given the OL a little more "hope" that they have wiggle-room ... and Padilla's presence might given them an added spark ("hope" can do that).
Despite the non-ideal circumstances, Padilla is now being given an opportunity to make decisions hard on the coaches from here on out. For a player ... that's as much as you can ask for.
Should be interesting to see how things play out. Good luck to all the Hawks (both Padilla and Petras included)!
AP looked good, but I think some of you overlook the fact that if he does become #1 QB, he is going to be coached into checking down and dumping off to the RB or FB consistently. Just like every other QB to get a 2nd year under KOK. Hopefully his quick release doesn't force him into checkdowns.
While acknowledging that the O-line is bad, outside of Linderbaum, there seems to be some thought that Iowa routinely produces O-lines that give a qb 3.5+ seconds in a clean pocket consistently. I don't think that's the case.
More realistically, the O-line could be significantly better and give the qb 2.5 to 3 seconds more of the time but nowhere near all of the time. But, shouldn't it also still come with the expectation that the qb is going to need to adjust in the pocket, step up or simply run for it at least a few times a game to extend plays?
More realistically, the O-line could be significantly better and give the qb 2.5 to 3 seconds more of the time but nowhere near all of the time. But, shouldn't it also still come with the expectation that the qb is going to need to adjust in the pocket, step up or simply run for it at least a few times a game to extend plays?
None of our QB's have ever been overly impressive over the years with exception to perhaps Chuck Long and Brad Banks. Iowa in the present wants a pocket passer, yet cannot seem to put together an offensive line capable of protecting said passer. I have said before I believe Petras, with a decent offensive line, could show much more promise. Can't deny Padilla did something to the line and over-all offensive performance, at least until Kirk went into full-blown conservative mode.
What if he doesn't listen to that coaching. Will he get benched? I doubt it if he does well.
I liked the post. Padilla looked sharper that Petras ever has. Granted NW isn't very good defensively but even when they were in position, Padilla made them look bad. I think some underestimate his arm strength. He delivered the ball quickly and put it through a small window when he needed to. His ability to move in the pocket made the line look better, whether they were or not.
I would add that the combination of Johnson & Bruce is way better than Ragaini and Tracy in terms of getting open and giving the QB a target. And them getting open makes Charlie Jones more relevant as a receiver. Over time a better receiving corps will benefit LaPorta as a receiver.
What I saw was better players on the field, and not just Padilla. Unfortunately the play calling held them back and it was truly painful to watch. It will be interesting to see who is on the field next Saturday, but Padilla, Johnson and Bruce certainly didn't do anything that would indicate their playing time should be diminished.
Right? The reading comprehension of this forum is severely lacking.
As much as I’d love another Brad Banks or Drew Tate, the most important thing the Iowa offense needs is a QB that can be a threat to make a play when protection breaks down. Nate Stanley, for instance, wasn’t all that mobile, but he had the Big Ben thing going in that he could get outside the pocket and throw on the move and then when there was a lane, he could run a bit and he was a tough guy to bring down. Beathard was mobile enough. Stanzi was mobile enough. Nate Chandler wasn’t very mobile, but was playing behind one of Iowa’s best OLs.
Petras hasn’t been able to do that, which is emphasized when the OL is as bad as it’s been this year.
Yes. That's my point.
I don't think we'll see another Brad Banks again. That one was a fluke for this staff.
But Drew Tate and CJ Beathard type guys? It's absolutely possible to look for that kind of player if 6'4" and body frame to carry 235lbs. are required as prerequisites.
What I'm getting at is that it is more likely that you can improve the O-line to the point that there is an increase in time available to throw, but unlikely that an O-line will be constructed that gives a qb 3.5 seconds of clean pocket time consistently. If that were the case then the qbr scale would have to be adjusted because suddenly a whole bunch of guys would look like what we now consider all-Americans.
I don't really think of great quarterbacks as guys who make plays when they have plenty of time in the pocket undisturbed. The great ones are guys who make things happen when something breaks down.
The thing that impressed me most about Padilla is that he threw passes in traffic and completed them. Passes that if they’re a yard short or left/right could be picked off. Instead they were on the money and completed. We haven’t seen that out of Petras in awhile, especially in the last two games prior.
I’ll accept a couple of INTs out of a QB if it means they’re moving ball and allowing the offense to score. When a QB is scared to make a throw or stretch the defense, the offense becomes very one dimensional.
I’ll accept a couple of INTs out of a QB if it means they’re moving ball and allowing the offense to score. When a QB is scared to make a throw or stretch the defense, the offense becomes very one dimensional.
Agreed - especially in the Big Ten. This isn’t the Big 12 of recent vintage, it’s a conference that is often pretty loaded with stout defenses. There will be pressure on the QB at times, even with a good OL.
He also did a good job of putting the ball (most of the time) in a position where either only the receiver could get it or where the receiver could catch it on the move. Petras has been inconsistent with that - he throws a nice deep ball, but he has had trouble putting the ball where the receiver can catch and go.
Mindset has always been the problem for SP. His is to not throw INTs and he said as much. That is not the same as Banks,CJ, Stanley etc. Making attempts to grab the game. Tate who had 0 running game. Most obvious is our boy Capt America Stanzi. Throws 5 ints v. indiana and still wins the game. Mindset and not be so focused on risk aversion.
Mentally imo SP is broken. Example is the no pressure throws into the ground on simple pitch and catch. Has happened since Indiana. Combine with throwing OB on a 4th and it is obvious SP is not in a mindset a CONSISTENT starting QB1 needs. Overthinking and a big case of the yips.
Mentally imo SP is broken. Example is the no pressure throws into the ground on simple pitch and catch. Has happened since Indiana. Combine with throwing OB on a 4th and it is obvious SP is not in a mindset a CONSISTENT starting QB1 needs. Overthinking and a big case of the yips.
I’m curious if the shoulder injury is really new from the Wisconsin game or whether he’s had it for a while and maybe it had been getting worse week by week. It would explain a lot - Petras has always had flaws in his game, but generally throwing the ball hasn’t been one.
It might be worth noting that he was playing against Northwestern and the last 3 games Petras played were against Penn St, Purdue and Wisconsin with the #6, 12, and 2 defenses in the country.
Still, he looked like he belonged out there and the stage wasn't too big for him. Minnesota has a solid defense. Let's see how he does with some pressure in his face which frankly wasn't there against NW like it was against the last 3 prior. Hopefully he performs well and leaves no doubt as to who should be starting the last 3 games.
they didn't watch the game or just caught the 2nd half. Anybody who saw the 2nd quarter knows that the offense actually resembled a college level offense instead of what we usually get when petras runs the show or when kirk runs the prevent offense like he did in the final quarter and a half
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