ADVERTISEMENT

If Israel doesn't accept cease fire - f em

Not sure why you responded like that. It wasn’t my intent. Your thread title on if Israel refuses the ceasefire was my target. To each his own I guess.

Okay, my apologies. Internet conversations don't have the tone and intent of personal conversations.
 
  • Love
Reactions: Jan Itor
Some of you need to get it into your microbrains and do some soul searching. Calling out Israel does not mean supporting Hamas. It is that Us vs. Them; black/white mentality that creates so many damn problems around the world.
The title of the thread is pretty black and white. Not to mention it is Hamas that has failed to accept a cease fire and the conditions that go along with it.
 
The title of the thread is pretty black and white. Not to mention it is Hamas that has failed to accept a cease fire and the conditions that go along with it.

Do you believe the more mature person in the room should act like an adult. Israel is indiscriminately killing women and children. No better than Hamas in that regard. Hamas started this. Bibi won't settle because he is trump lite. He is about to be prosecuted. Hanging on to power by a thread.

We didn't eradicate Germany or Japan. But Bibi wants to do that to the Palestinian people. Both sides are stupid. Why you can't see that....that is on you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Firekirknow
Tell Hamas to allow them to clear areas when Israel makes public their intentions public, and stop using them as human shields.

Isreal's intentions have been made public thanks to Bibi. Eradication of an entire group (not just Hamas, Palestinian women and children). Irony coming from a Jew.
 
  • Like
Reactions: WDSMHAWK
We didn't eradicate Germany or Japan.
We killed twice as many German civilians, and three times as many Japanese civilians as are alleged to have died so far in Gaza strip, and that's taking the low end estimate in both cases.

We went through their cities (and our Allies cities) and blasted them out of any structure they tried to defend from.

We deliberately bombed and starved both of their populations - until the leadership quit.
 
We killed twice as many German civilians, and three times as many Japanese civilians as are alleged to have died so far in Gaza strip, and that's taking the low end estimate in both cases.

We went through their cities (and our Allies cities) and blasted them out of any structure they tried to defend from.

We deliberately bombed and starved both of their populations - until the leadership quit.
Doubtful that would have occurred if the war had been televised and broadcasted over the interwebz. Similarly, I also don't think Americans elect a president in a wheel chair.
 
Doubtful that would have occurred if the war had been televised and broadcasted over the interwebz. Similarly, I also don't think Americans elect a president in a wheel chair.
I'm honestly unable to recall pictures like this from Afghanistan, or Iraq:


ek5zaVh.png


Here lie three Americans.

What shall we say of them? Shall we say that this is a noble sight? Shall we say that this is a fine thing, that they should give their lives for their country?

Or shall we say that this is too horrible to look at?

Why print this picture, anyway, of three American boys dead upon an alien shore? Is it to hurt people? To be morbid?

Those are not the reasons.

The reason is that words are never enough. The eye sees. The mind knows. The heart feels. But the words do not exist to make us see, or know, or feel what it is like, what actually happens. The words are never right. . . .

The reason we print it now is that, last week, President Roosevelt and [Director of the Office of War Information] Elmer Davis and the War Department decided that the American people ought to be able to see their own boys as they fall in battle; to come directly and without words into the presence of their own dead.

And so here it is. This is the reality that lies behind the names that come to rest at last on monuments in the leafy squares of busy American towns.
 
You are so full of shit.

Do you really think Bibi cares on bit about the women and children that he is butchering. He is no better than Hamas. Both evil. Sorry I can see the truth. You can live in your little section of the world if you don't see that both Hamas and Bibi are evil.
 
Do you really think Bibi cares on bit about the women and children that he is butchering. He is no better than Hamas. Both evil. Sorry I can see the truth. You can live in your little section of the world if you don't see that both Hamas and Bibi are evil.
I don’t claim that Bibi is a good person in any way shape or form. But I have the mental faculties to see the difference between him and Hamas.
 
  • Like
Reactions: goldmom
Do you really think Bibi cares on bit about the women and children that he is butchering. He is no better than Hamas. Both evil. Sorry I can see the truth. You can live in your little section of the world if you don't see that both Hamas and Bibi are evil.
It’s not Bibi’s job to care about any one but his own fellow Israelis.
 
  • Like
  • Wow
Reactions: Kelsers and SB_SB
Bibi wants annulation of Palestinian people. You have to be obtuse to not see it.
You mean annihilation?
You think Hamas and all the little subgroups don’t want that?
You don’t think they demonstrated that on October 7th?
 
  • Like
Reactions: SB_SB
It’s not Bibi’s job to care about any one but his own fellow Israelis.

Meh, I think all of us as humans have a responsibility to value human life. That being said, Bibi and Hamas are both committing war crimes.

I was shot at, mortars and rockets landed close to me. Sure, I could have shot up a bunch of Iraqis. I value human life. I'm not a pacifist. I just don't believe in indiscriminating shootings.


Bibi is a war criminal to keep power by killing. A lot of Israelis agree with me.
 
  • Like
Reactions: WDSMHAWK
You mean annihilation?
You think Hamas and all the little subgroups don’t want that?
You don’t think they demonstrated that on October 7th?

To claim that Palestinians supported Hamas in the last election is like acting like Putin got 100% of the vote
 
Meh, I think all of us as humans have a responsibility to value human life. That being said, Bibi and Hamas are both committing war crimes.

I was shot at, mortars and rockets landed close to me. Sure, I could have shot up a bunch of Iraqis. I value human life. I'm not a pacifist. I just don't believe in indiscriminating shootings.


Bibi is a war criminal to keep power by killing. A lot of Israelis agree with me.
Ultra liberal Israeli apologists who would have helped fellow Jews get on the trains to Auschwitz, you mean?
 
Is MSNBC/CNN not siding with Hamas here? Did 70-80% of Palestinians NOT vote for Hamas? If you think about who aligns themselves with Israel, is it Ds or Rs? Which party aligns itself with Hamas best interests?

I don't even think Israel is guiltless for the climate that exists, but the reality is they were attacked, again, and they've had enough. They have a right to defend themselves, and the people of Gaza support Hamas, a terrorist group, to the tune of 70-80% support. I just don't have much sympathy for the position they've put themselves in here, and I don't think Israel owes the terrorist regime an easy out.
Keep living in your own paranoid little world, the rest of us will carry on with our lives.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BrianNole777
Bibi wants annulation of Palestinian people. You have to be obtuse to not see it.
Since the Israel operation started I have been trying to figure out the objective. None of the options are great, and unless they are wiping the Palestinians off the map, I think they have exacted short-term retribution but created a couple generations of terrorists.
 
Since the Israel operation started I have been trying to figure out the objective. None of the options are great, and unless they are wiping the Palestinians off the map, I think they have exacted short-term retribution but created a couple generations of terrorists.

That is one of my problems with it. Kids are going to be radicalized; and I can't blame them.
 
That is the most disingenuous take I've ever heard, I don't know a single true American cheering for Russia. The left has tried to fabricate this nuanced stance that because the right wants to make sure our money is being spent properly in Ukraine and wants to tie funding for both Israel and Ukraine to protecting our own border, that is synonymous with supporting Russia. Give me a break, the anti-American left never seems to amaze me. :rolleyes:
Who are you rooting for, Ukraine or Russia?
What is the last critical thing Trump (Republican leader) said about Putin or Russia?

I'll wait.
 
  • Like
Reactions: funksouljon
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT