If Trump loses....

[lucas80]

2.4% of the American population is Jewish, and it’s highly concentrated in NYC and LA. Every jew in America could vote for Trump and it would have no effect on the outcome of the election.

I read an article a week or so ago about the suburbs of Philadelphia being critical, and there is a softening in Jewish support for Harris because of the war in Gaza. PA is critical for both candidates, and it was a fairly small margin last time, so, a few votes here and there...

 

[lucas80]

He mangled this - as he often does - but the many American Jews who continue to vote Democratic is a legitimate observation. He is not the only person who finds it puzzling.
Just my opinion.

There are articles out there, and Jewish posters here have explained that most notably they identify as Dems from the beginning of the Civil Rights era.
I also think, just my opinion, that a lot of Jewish voters understand that a large number of Republicans are pro Jewish only in that they are hoping each and every day that the rapture is coming. Which wouldn't work out great for the Jews.

 

[ft254]

You’re hysterical! 😂
Calling Republicans fascists reveals that you are a follower and not an independent thinker.
Tell me what a fascist is.
Go check with your handler if you need to.

I don't like labeling figures as fascists. If the Orange Turd follows through with his stated plans to reorganize government, controlling all branches this is indeed meets the definition of fascism. Not my editorial opinion, simply research the definition.

What does meet the parameters and the reason he is associated with fascism is his image. His arrogance and petulance is similar to Mussolini's behavior and demeanor. Mussolini is of course the godfather of fascism and will always be the face of it.

 

[SB_SB]

I read an article a week or so ago about the suburbs of Philadelphia being critical, and there is a softening in Jewish support for Harris because of the war in Gaza. PA is critical for both candidates, and it was a fairly small margin last time, so, a few votes here and there...

Jewish people are probably more independent at this point. But they also know what can happen when a leader of a country blames them for various reason, and this is why they tend to be democrat when voting.

 

[joelbc1]

You might need glasses. You looked at Trump TWICE and missed everything that made him Trump. His BS. His ignorance. His hate. His massive level of "misinformation" (i.e. lying through his teeth). Your hatred for Democrats made you twice pull the lever for the most reprehensible human being to ever sit in the Oval Office. You'll absolutely do it again.

Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me! Fool me three times…I guess I’m just not very smart.

 

[fsu1jreed]

He mangled this - as he often does - but the many American Jews who continue to vote Democratic is a legitimate observation. He is not the only person who finds it puzzling.
Just my opinion.

That's cool, I happened to find it puzzlingly that anyone voted for this piece of shit once, much less twice

 

[fsu1jreed]

He’s been called effective because in the heyday of his Senate career it seemed he was far more centrist and gained a reputation as a compromiser.
I had initially hoped he’d bring that to the Oval Office but the staff around him have effectively ended that possibility.

Holy fvck, someone take Grandma's keyboard away

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

In what ways, citing policy, are democrats moving left? I'm genuinely curious. When compared to other democracies across the globe the Democratic party is considered centre-right. As a person that doesn't like either party, I think it appears that way because the R's have shifted far to the right.

Nailed it.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

He’s been called effective because in the heyday of his Senate career it seemed he was far more centrist and gained a reputation as a compromiser.
I had initially hoped he’d bring that to the Oval Office but the staff around him have effectively ended that possibility.

Who would he compromise with?

 

[ISUBryce]

I read an article a week or so ago about the suburbs of Philadelphia being critical, and there is a softening in Jewish support for Harris because of the war in Gaza. PA is critical for both candidates, and it was a fairly small margin last time, so, a few votes here and there...

JDCA Polling

jewishdems.org

All of this flies in the face of polling. Not perfect but it’s unlikely.

There are 433k Jews in PA. 300k or so will probably vote. Unless there was a massive shift it likely wouldn’t have an effect.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

2.4% of the American population is Jewish, and it’s highly concentrated in NYC and LA. Every jew in America could vote for Trump and it would have no effect on the outcome of the election.

They would make a difference in Florida.

 

[goldmom]

Who would he compromise with?

I can only assume you’re not being serious.

 

[goldmom]

I'm so sorry but not surprised that you don't know the meaning of fascist. If you knew how to use Google, you would find that Trump is a fascist as are many of his followers. I wouldn't be surprised if many definitions have a picture of Trump along with Mussolini and Hitler as examples. And I think the next independent thought you have will be your first.

Oh my God. Are you older than 17?

 

[Jerome Silberman]

Why?

American conservatives know what's best for the children of Israel, duh.

 

[Tom Paris]

And of course you granted Joe Biden similar grace, right? 😉

At some point, it’s okay to concede Trump is just a ****ing idiot.

You might be starting to see what the rest of us see in goldie.

 

[goldmom]

They would make a difference in Florida.

Dade Broward and Palm Beach County - and that depends on whether they claim residency in Florida or they’re still registered in New York.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

The Far Left and the Far Right have always been anti-semitic.

If you remove the extremes from both parties, most Jews (in the US) tend to be politically Left-of-Center, which aligns with mainstream Democrats.

Also, Jews, for historical reasons, tend to live in or near large cities, where people are more liberal than in rural areas. They are both politically and socially more integrated with Democrats.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I can only assume you’re not being serious.

This might possibly be the dumbest fvcking thing goldie has ever posted. Must be dementia.

 

[Tom Paris]

Well if that’s so they’re miles ahead of you and the other trolls on here.

 

[goldmom]

H

How ironic as Mom always tries to be clever. 🤣

And you follow my every post - commenting in a deeply intellectual way - with this. 🤣

 

[THE_DEVIL]

I can only assume you’re not being serious.

Yes. Just exactly who?

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Dade Broward and Palm Beach County - and that depends on whether they claim residency in Florida or they’re still registered in New York.

Most Florida New Yorkers have lived in Florida for decades.

 

[goldmom]

The Far Left and the Far Right have always been anti-semitic.

If you remove the extremes from both parties, most Jews (in the US) tend to be politically Left-of-Center, which aligns with mainstream Democrats.

Also, Jews, for historical reasons, tend to live in or near large cities, where people are more liberal than in rural areas. They are both politically and socially more integrated with Democrats.

Excellent post and thank you for that.

 

[goldmom]

Most Florida New Yorkers have lived in Florida for decades.

I know. It began with the parents of Boomers who began migrating south in the 60’s.

 

[Tom Paris]

I’m old enough to remember when a young guy from Delaware got elected. He’s NEVER been a genius. He is one of the luckiest people to ever live off a tragic loss, figure out which way the wind is blowing and get a government check for his entire adult life.
I personally think that’s not uncommon in DC and he’s not really an idiot- he’s just now a lucky puppet. A senile one.

For the hundredth time, Joe is far more intelligent than you. I know because he didn’t vote for a rapist conman like you did…twice. No self awareness.

 

[goldmom]

It's hard for Jews to be republican when the republican party pushes christianity.

If you say so.

 

[Tom Paris]

Didn’t move the goalposts at all.

You: It puzzles me why the Jews vote for Dems.

Me: Maybe because they’ve decided the Dems aren’t perfect but they’re better than the GOP.

You: Weak!

Me: Let me try again. Jews may not care as much about Israel as they do other issues that affect them more directly. And they’ve decided Dems - flaws and all - represent those things they value more than the GOP.

Where’s the goalpost moving there?

You are another example of what I’m talking about. Except for abortion, you align strongly with the GOP. You hate Democrats with a passion. Yet you are not voting for Trump. Why? Because youve decided he’s not worth your vote even though you are aligned with him and the party politically.

Same thing.

She’s voting for him.

 

[goldmom]

In what ways, citing policy, are democrats moving left? I'm genuinely curious. When compared to other democracies across the globe the Democratic party is considered centre-right. As a person that doesn't like either party, I think it appears that way because the R's have shifted far to the right.

Sorry to say, I don't think having an interview with Oprah qualifies as moving left. Getting endorsements from several hundred republicans, including Dick Cheney, does not qualify as left. As somebody who sees the Democratic party as a group that keeps adding "RINOs" masquerading as liberals, I'm curious how policy is shifting to the left, because I'm not seeing it.

If the claim is that the parties are growing more and more isolated and only voting along party lines, that I can agree with. I mean look at the border bill Kamala promises to pass - it's a republican bill. Having the most lethal military in the world is not a "leftist" position. Her unwavering support for Israel is not a leftist position. Support for fracking - the list goes on and on.

The Democratic party is pushing Kamala to the right to try to attract Republicans that are being abandoned by their party's move to the right, IMO, and she's still in a dead even heat with a twice impeached, 34x felon rapist. It's disgusting. The only "left" thing she's done is choose Walz as her running mate. Everything since has been the other direction.

God forbid she move “centre” right. She’d never win in Canada. 🙄

 

[Kelsers]

And you follow my every post - commenting in a deeply intellectual way - with this. 🤣

And you never fail to respond to EVERYONE, and usually in a demeaning way.🙃

 

[Tom Paris]

Number one, I do not hate Democrats with a passion. You’re simply wrong about that. Not all my friends are Republicans either.
I see what I consider a level of BS and ignorance and I call it out. Lots of hate and misinformation IMO.
I’m a hugely cynical person about those who are attempting to portray themselves as Democrats on this site.
You realize we are both on an Iowa based board full of angry voters in a deep red state where they’re a minority? And frankly this site has trolls and bots who may be plants stirring up controversy and hate. Hope we agree that no one thinks more of that is needed?

 

[goldmom]

Yes. Just exactly who?

Are you not familiar with Biden’s reputation over the years in the Senate? He was known as a deal maker and a person who helped his colleagues on both sides of the aisle find enough common ground to get things passed.

 

[lucas80]

JDCA Polling

jewishdems.org

All of this flies in the face of polling. Not perfect but it’s unlikely.

There are 433k Jews in PA. 300k or so will probably vote. Unless there was a massive shift it likely wouldn’t have an effect.

I’m a Cubs and Iowa football fan. Everything worries me right to the end.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

I think Jews, in general, tend to be especially leery of populist movements and demagogic politicians. In times of social strife and tension, Jews are usually among the first to be scapegoated.

Although, he hasn't been openly antisemitic, Trump is a demagogue's demagogue. He is also notorious for turning on his "friends" and throwing them under the bus.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

a softening in Jewish support for Harris because of the war in Gaza

Really?

 

[goldmom]

And you never fail to respond to EVERYONE, and usually in a demeaning way.🙃

You seem obsessed with following me.
You call my posts demeaning yet you fail to recognize I am only pushing back and responding to the attacks and insults I am getting from lefties I consider to be angry persons who don’t like what I’m saying.

 

[globalhawk]

Oh my God. Are you older than 17?

Are you?

 

[goldmom]

I think Jews, in general, tend to be especially leery of populist movements and demagogic politicians. In times of social strife and tension, Jews are usually among the first to be scapegoated.

Although, he hasn't been openly antisemitic, Trump is a demagogue's demagogue. He is also notorious for turning on his "friends" and throwing them under the bus.

Surprise! I don’t disagree. And he’s been this way since he lost in 2020. But I don’t think he’s a true anti-Semite.
He has had business dealings with Jewish people in NYC all his life. His daughter, son on law and his grandkids are Jewish.

 

[goldmom]

This might possibly be the dumbest fvcking thing goldie has ever posted. Must be dementia.

Ah. The insults.
I admit you’re probably experienced at posting dumb fvcking stuff. Cheers!

 

[globalhawk]

Ah. The insults.
I admit you’re probably experienced at posting dumb fvcking stuff. Cheers!

You swear a lot for an old lady.

 

[goldmom]

Tom. You poor thing. I’m glad you post pics instead of trying to write out a coherent thought. The pics work better for you, huh?