I enjoyed the apology by the Krush admitting their mistake only after throwing a fit and getting bashed all across the country
Illini Fans Are Stirring The Pot
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Since no group would want to scam ISU for tickets I can understand your lack of knowledge. No where did it say that the Illini students paid anything out of their pockets to attend the game. It said that students were invited based on the contributions that they solicited and the only figure that I saw was just over $2600 by those who participated, a number that could have been much more than 200. That means at best, they collected $13.00 a piece.
The group is a sham to pay for party busses, accomodations and event tickets that could not have been other secured. They did this once before to Iowa and they got away with it. When the opening jump ball was tossed the whole group , inunison , stood up a revealed their orange clothing. They were loud and obnoxious and they pissed off a whole lot of people. They were very apparent on the televised game.
I'd guess to say that the Orange Krush group benefits far more that the other charities that they are ''supposed'' to be involved with. Someone should ask the IRS to give them a look.
I only agree with your wish that they fail, but I wanted to ask how your strategic robbery planning operation is going for you.
You can point the IRS to the Krush's Wikipedia page for evidence of these scandalous party bus road trips. Doesn't really explain the $2.5 million raised for charity (as of 2013) and an additional $2.5 million for the university's DIA if Krush were pocketing the money it raised.
Orange Krush - Wikipedia
The Orange Krush Foundation
Established in 1998, the Foundation is the charitable side of the Orange Krush organization. One half of all money raised from the pledge program, minus the cost of tickets for each member and any costs incurred in a roadtrip to another Big Ten school, is then donated to various charities in the Champaign-Urbana area. The other half goes to the DIA (Division of Intercollegiate Athletics) to fund various athletic scholarships, including the Matt Heldman and Rod Cardinal Scholarship.Let me see if I understand this.You can point the IRS to the Krush's Wikipedia page for evidence of these scandalous party bus road trips. Doesn't really explain the $2.5 million raised for charity (as of 2013) and an additional $2.5 million for the university's DIA if Krush were pocketing the money it raised.
Orange Krush - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Orange Krush Foundation
Established in 1998, the Foundation is the charitable side of the Orange Krush organization. One half of all money raised from the pledge program, minus the cost of tickets for each member and any costs incurred in a roadtrip to another Big Ten school, is then donated to various charities in the Champaign-Urbana area. The other half goes to the DIA (Division of Intercollegiate Athletics) to fund various athletic scholarships, including the Matt Heldman and Rod Cardinal Scholarship.
We raise $5,000 to go to a game.
We then rent buses, buy tickets, food, beer, etc. let’s say that costs $3,000.
That leaves us with $2,000 that we then send half of to a charity. So we get a free road-trip, tickets, food, beer, etc. pocket an extra $1,000 for some reason and then give a $1,000 to a charity.
How very generous of them. Wouldn’t want to give all of the excess to charity. How would they pay for the party to plan the road-trip?
Just to gain membership to Krush, prospective members are pitted against each other and the top fundraisers advance up the ladder. For this game, an additional $2700 was raised for local charities. The annual road trip comes out of the Krush budget. Not sure of how the books are kept, but Krush is clearly a charitable organization and members are required to pledge funds each year. The incentives like road trips are fundraisers in themselves or maybe a reward for top fundraisers. That's how a lot of charities work.
Raise money
Get free road trips, tickets, food, booze
Keep half of what is left over after paying for my trip, food, booze
Donate what is left.
I wonder if that is how it is represented when they are soliciting funds in the community.
They may have wounded the golden goose with this fraudulent act
I believe Jerry Sandusky also held similar fundraisers with the second mile charity. They say he used to poke around the local B&G club looking for unwholesome ticket discounts among other things.. Guess you guys have some things in common.
So, are these mostly just a bunch of rich kids who can "fundraise" to be part of the fun, or are there actually auditable records keeping track of the contributions obtained from the prospective members? I have a CPA certificate, and this somehow smells really funny to me. The end result is at least a portion of the money involved going to actual charities, so it isn't all bad.
I don't know. It was the same when I was in school in the '80s. I did not want to fundraise and be cheery so I did not join. I am pretty sure they can easily cover the cost of the annual trip on pledges alone (the money they contribute themselves to join), not the money they fundraise. The annual trip is a one-off. The fundraising, pledges and community service is year round. To be sure, the $2.7K they raised to be able to go on the trip was donated to local charities, not to fund the trip. I tried looking up their annual filings but they appear to be under the University of Illinois Foundation or at least that's where donations go.
Each student also pledges money to join. And not everyone gets to go on the annual road trip. I don't know how much they pledge per person, but I assume it covers the trip. Their annual budget is $30K, but I also assume that may be mostly pledges. The annual road trip seems to have costed about $12K ($5.4K for 200 tickets plus $6K for charter bus rental). Iowa refunded the cost of the tickets to the group, and a local Champaign bar (Kam's) covered the $6K loss. The $2.7K in fundraising to be invited to go on the trip is $2.7K more than anyone else raised to go to the game.
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Patiently waiting for the ‘Go Fund Me’ posting so we can help them cover their loss.
Can you clarify - organization has been around and doing this since the 80’s?
Can you clarify - organization has been around and doing this since the 80’s?
Yes, not sure when Krush started, but Illini Pride (related) started in 1977:
Illini Pride History — Illini Pride
www.illinipride.com
So they contribute about $4-5K a year to charity.Yes, not sure when Krush started, but Illini Pride (related) started in 1977:
Illini Pride History — Illini Pride
After they rent buses, buy tickets, buy food, buy drinks, heck probably even buy the shirts for the games and keep half of the surplus for themselves.
I don't think this is the kind of scrutiny that this organization wants to bring upon itself. The $2 mil sounds good until the people donating realize that $2 mil has been kept and the rest went for a party bus.
You are intermingling the pledges and the fundraising. Pledges go to the OK budget and fundraising goes to charities. You don't raise over $2 million (as of 2013) by contributing only about $4-5K per year to charity. This game alone raised $2.7K for charity. How much did Hawk's Nest raise for the game? As I previously mentioned, the annual road trip is a special one-off each year for those who get to go, while the fundraising and community service are year-round involving many more members.
Yet they road trip to every game. It sounds like they take a special road trip not athletic events once a year. I'd also like to know how much this pledge is. 20 dollars? 50 dollars? There is a lot about their fundraising that strikes me as fishy and feom the interviews they gave the money they are out of come from the krush organization, not their own personal pockets. Seems like the fundraising is a very small part of what the krush is about. Fundraising to go to games for free and donate a very small amount to charities. If they raise 100 grand for charities do these charities end up getting 20 grand because the Krush spends the rest on themselves? It's what tge articles and interviews make it sound like.
LOL, you guys are certain that Krush is a fake charity/slush fund for party bus road trips. I don't know how the books are kept, but I've requested financial reporting from them (via message on their website). My impression is that the pledges are probably about $100 per person, totaling $30K for 300 people. And then they do community service and raise other funds for charities. I don't know if they sell candy bars or do car washes or whatnot. That's why I am requesting more information from them. It's also not clear to me that Krush even solicits donations from the public. It is a service/social/athletic booster organization that students (and only students) can join with increasing privileges for those who contribute the most. The annual road trip is a one-off and seems to be the highlight of their year, although their courtside seats at home games is a nice privilege too. I do know they have to buy their season tickets like any other student.
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So for 100 bucks and as much community service as i did in college and free rides, food, drinks, and tickets to all the athletic events they attend, which is every football and basketball game. Not sure about other sports. Sounds like a good deal to be honest. The charity aspect is definitely overblown but the opportunity to see all those games with transportation and everything else covered is a great deal for a student. Hopefully they don't pretend to be a real charity in the future and were serious about learning their lesson. Maybe Iowa could do a take on this to increase student participation in basketball games. 100 bucks and a little community service which translates well on future resumes would definitely help with the lack of student noise and cheering at the games although i noticed students were the best I've seen all season at the illannoy game.
There's only one road trip per year and not everyone goes. They pay for home game tickets like anyone else. Not sure where you are getting free food and drinks. The community service is measured in volunteer hours. More time you commit, more privileges. I agree, it's a good model for a student section. I don't like vulgar chants against opposing players, I think it is classless with kids watching. They also made a mistake misrepresenting themselves as a B&G club and then the open letter on Twitter. Thankfully someone told them to apologize. Damn millenials. They need to understand they are representing Illinois and conduct themselves accordingly. Wild and crazy is great. Don't be vulgar and disrespectful.
Krush's $30K budget is directly out of the pocket of Krush members in the form of pledges and can be used for the benefit of those members. They aren't spending the charity money they raised. Considering they once cut a check for $50K to the Dickie V Foundation, someone at Krush is raising money for charity. Remember $2.7K this past week alone was donated by Krush to local charities.
They said they had done this for every road game. I have to assume, yes assume, that they are doing this for every game duringthe season. Not just one a year. Anyway I do think an organization like the Krush would be good for iowa basketball. And as much as i enjoy not being a fan of Illinois I don't have bad fan stories although every school has knuckleheads. We have been talking about how to get our students involved more and an organization like the Krush would definitely help. Wiscy is the team i truly despise
It's an annual tradition for Krush to go on one road trip per year. It costs about 1/3 of their entire budget for the year. It would be too expensive to go to too many places or go too far. They chose IC this year, but since they recouped any losses from the cancelled trip, they can pivot and go somewhere else before the season ends.
Well despite my lack of love for the Krush I'm glad they at least still get their game. Illinois is definitely a really solid team. I hope your center goes pro but he'll probably be back. I think he should go pro. Good luck with the rest of your season. I hope you finish 1 spot behind Iowa. That's the best i can hope for you. I will be rooting for u in the tournament.
Iowa students just raised over 1m this past weekend for the children's hospital through dance marathon. Hey krush....are you paying attention?
And they do every year. I don't know when this started but it was a long time ago. A great event that raises some serious money for a great cause.
That's incredible! Had no idea. How are they able to raise so much? Maybe Ilini can steal that idea.
History and Tradition
In 1994, a unique and motivated group of students, in conjunction with the Children's Miracle Network, created Dance Marathon at the University of Iowa. A year's worth of planning and hard work generated an impressive first year total of $31,000 and included 26 wonderful Families. Over the past 30
They don't need to steal it. Those kids help anyone interested set up and get going. If Krush actually wants to make a real difference have them reach out. It is all student run and very organized.That's incredible! Had no idea. How are they able to raise so much? Maybe Ilini can steal that idea.
History and Tradition
In 1994, a unique and motivated group of students, in conjunction with the Children's Miracle Network, created Dance Marathon at the University of Iowa. A year's worth of planning and hard work generated an impressive first year total of $31,000 and included 26 wonderful Families. Over the past 30dancemarathon.uiowa.edu
They have given well over 10m now to the children's hospital.
I am using fairly simple math.
Started in 77, donated a little over $2M to charity(admirable). 46 years, $2M…. Carry the one… plus this… ends up at $4-$5 annually. You seem to want to ignore the ‘half of what is LEFT OVER is donated to charity’
Slip us their 990 and we can back off. Until then it appears to be a well funded party fund. Why not donate all of the surplus to charity?
Until you do a little better at providing some supporting information…… well, on the surface it just doesn’t look good.
Iowa $1m for a weekend every year.
Orange Krush $2m for 46 years…. And fraudulently representing charities to do so.
Fire back please.
Started in 77, donated a little over $2M to charity(admirable). 46 years, $2M…. Carry the one… plus this… ends up at $4-$5 annually. You seem to want to ignore the ‘half of what is LEFT OVER is donated to charity’
Slip us their 990 and we can back off. Until then it appears to be a well funded party fund. Why not donate all of the surplus to charity?
Until you do a little better at providing some supporting information…… well, on the surface it just doesn’t look good.
Iowa $1m for a weekend every year.
Orange Krush $2m for 46 years…. And fraudulently representing charities to do so.
Fire back please.
If Krush started in 1977 and raised $2.5M for charity by 2013 (Wikipedia), that's about $55K per year for charity, plus another $55K per year to the DIA to support athletic scholarships. The party bus is funded through personal membership dues (pledges). So are the orange T-shirts. The Krush members each must raise several hundred dollars more for charities throughout the year (how, I don't know) and also put in volunteer hours in the community. I don't think they file a Form 990 under Krush or Illini Pride (because I couldn't locate one). They may be under the umbrella of the University of Illinois Foundation. I've requested more info from their website on how they operate. As for what is LEFT OVER for charity, I assume that's out of the OK operating budget (pledges). In fact, the Wikipedia page says so: "Established in 1998, the Foundation is the charitable side of the Orange Krush organization. One half of all money raised from the PLEDGE PROGRAM, minus the cost of tickets for each member and any costs incurred in a roadtrip to another Big Ten school, is then donated to various charities in the Champaign-Urbana area. The other half goes to the DIA (Division of Intercollegiate Athletics) to fund various athletic scholarships, including the Matt Heldman and Rod Cardinal Scholarship."
I assume the pledge program is annual membership dues but it may not be fixed per person. Whoever pledges the most in the fall gets into Krush. Somehow they pit the students against each other (pledges, charity fundraising, and volunteer hours) to compete for higher privileges.
EDIT: This is my last post on Krush. I'm not an expert on how Krush is structured, but if I learn more, I will post it here.
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I don't know,.. the $2 million dollar donation still looks like a $2 million dollar donation to me..
I will take the million dollars every year rather than 2 million spread over 46 years. But that's just me.
They pledge 100 dollars and get all free home tickets and one road game for basketball. Do they get free tickets to football games too? Or just basketball? Either way pretty good deal. 100 for all those games. Wish Iowa had that when i was a student. Did have a student discount I'm sure but that was a long time ago. I'm pretty sure the dance marathon raises close to a million every year. Great event and run really professionally.
It does sound like a nice program. Not a great look to be embroiled in any Boys and(or) Girls Club scandals though. I'm just "stirring the pot" anyway. I think it all turned out ok and made the win all that much more satisfying.
It was really trashy imo. Then the fit they threw after until public opinion forced a lame pr release apology. Good program, crappy kids.
