Is it too much for me to ask if we can win 1 Rose Bowl in my life? Or how about a Rose Bowl where we don't get beat like a red headed step child?
I'm 48 years old.
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The title of this thread drew me in. However, I don't have an answer for you. But yeah, this was reminiscent of a Hayden Fry Rose Bowl.
Funny -- I'm 48, too, and precisely the same thought has been running through my mind all afternoon. I'm not holding my breath.
I'm not 48, and the Hawks HAVE won 2 Rose Bowls in my lifetime. Can't say I was really aware of the first one, though.
Nice. You and I must know each other or know some of the same people given your screen name. Graduated from Valley in '85.
IC native, but in DSM now. Probably do have some friends in common, though! I feel your pain, brother!
Baby steps...
For the longest time I felt as though the only way we would ever make it back to the Rose Bowl was to schedule a home and away with UCLA.
For the longest time I felt as though the only way we would ever make it back to the Rose Bowl was to schedule a home and away with UCLA.
This is a novel idea but how about we actually prepare to win one of these? I mean a total and complete focus from the head coach on down to study our opponent and work feverishly to beat them.
Whenever i hear the head coach talk about wanting the players to enjoy/soak up the experience and that we are focusing on the young guys in practice that raises a huge red flag with me. When we are consumed with going to Disneyland, etc. that's a problem. Do the absolute minimum there. As the head coach you must set the mindset that your opponent is superior and is preparing to knock your heads off. Your only chance is to play a perfect game.
Here's the secret. If you lose the Rose Bowl and get embarrassed the kids will never forget that the rest of their life. Nothing else they did in that trip will matter.
Instead we go out on the field looking like this is spring practice.
Whenever i hear the head coach talk about wanting the players to enjoy/soak up the experience and that we are focusing on the young guys in practice that raises a huge red flag with me. When we are consumed with going to Disneyland, etc. that's a problem. Do the absolute minimum there. As the head coach you must set the mindset that your opponent is superior and is preparing to knock your heads off. Your only chance is to play a perfect game.
Here's the secret. If you lose the Rose Bowl and get embarrassed the kids will never forget that the rest of their life. Nothing else they did in that trip will matter.
Instead we go out on the field looking like this is spring practice.
You raise a good point, And1. I guess the question is how much of the result had to do with a lack of preparation and how much had to do with Christian McCaffrey's speed and Stanford's superior line play. Probably some of both. But I do agree that we looked completely and totally out of it from the start of the game. Totally unprepared to play, and executing poorly in many ways that had nothing to do with superior talent on the other side of the ball. Something like 6 false starts, horrendous fundamentals in tackling, a ton of dropped passes, poor decisions at QB, another missed PAT, and the list goes on. Lots of evidence that this team wasn't focused, for whatever reason.
Reminds me of Ferentz's team after the 2003 Orange Bowl shellacking against USC. Kirk talked about how they spent too much time partying and soaking up the Florida sun and not enough time preparing. Bowl preparation was more business-like the next time and we blew out Florida in the Outback Bowl the next time around, IIRC. Then the big win over LSU in the Capital One Bowl. It seemed like we had bowl prep down. Something did seem to go awry this time. Better preparation may not have resulted in a win, but I have to think we could have kept it competitive if our heads had been in it. Then, again, maybe our guys would have sleep-walked through this game with better prep, too. Hard to explain it, but it seemed like our guys were in a daze today. These weren't the Hawks we've watched all season.
Reminds me of Ferentz's team after the 2003 Orange Bowl shellacking against USC. Kirk talked about how they spent too much time partying and soaking up the Florida sun and not enough time preparing. Bowl preparation was more business-like the next time and we blew out Florida in the Outback Bowl the next time around, IIRC. Then the big win over LSU in the Capital One Bowl. It seemed like we had bowl prep down. Something did seem to go awry this time. Better preparation may not have resulted in a win, but I have to think we could have kept it competitive if our heads had been in it. Then, again, maybe our guys would have sleep-walked through this game with better prep, too. Hard to explain it, but it seemed like our guys were in a daze today. These weren't the Hawks we've watched all season.
I personally think that the Rose Bowl committee will think twice before ever inviting Iowa back. 3 blowouts, fans leaving early, TV sets being shut off early. I'm going to write this one off my bucket list.
Have to say that I'm glad we didn't drop $15,000 to go out there and witness that debacle. And also glad I didn't have to sit though the Stanford "band's" pre-game and halftime "performances".
For whatever reason, Iowa and the Rose Bowl don't seem to go hand in hand. It's like there's some cosmic force in that stadium that makes Iowa players lose their mojo. Washington thumps us 28-0, UCLA cruises past us 45-28 (but not as close as the score), and now Stanford flat-out embarrasses us 45-16. There's an obvious trend here. Always had the Rose Bowl on the bucket list, but I, too, am losing interest fast.
For whatever reason, Iowa and the Rose Bowl don't seem to go hand in hand. It's like there's some cosmic force in that stadium that makes Iowa players lose their mojo. Washington thumps us 28-0, UCLA cruises past us 45-28 (but not as close as the score), and now Stanford flat-out embarrasses us 45-16. There's an obvious trend here. Always had the Rose Bowl on the bucket list, but I, too, am losing interest fast.
I'm 40.....I'm a MAN! Actually I'm 64......I'm an OLD MAN! I won't be seeing another Rose Bowl more than likely. The odds are huge that we'll never see the RB again in 25 years, the way the whole playoff system plays out now. On the bright side the older you get the less you stress about losing the GD #*&%@ing , piece of s*%^ , muther *&#$@ing Rose Bowl. Bask in the glow of come from behind one point wins in the Holiday Bowls over Wyoming and San Diego State. In fact during my prime years 1970 - 1992 the Big 10 combined only won 4 out of 22 Rose bowls, most lost by tO$U and Michigan. I'm very conditioned to the Big 10 losing the Rose Bowl. I don't like it, but it's almost expected.
Like your posts a lot but as I posted elsewhere, this is not just a Rose Bowl thing these days. We have been outscored 98-0 in the first half of the last 4 bowl games. Yes 98-0. We have not scored a single point in 8 quarters of football to open the last 4 bowl games. Not one FG. Think about that for a minute.
The closest game was a 14-0 margin to LSU. What many forgot is LSU lost starting QB Zach Mettenbetger before the bowl game and had some lousy backup playing who was a horrible passer. Had it been Zach we might have trailed 28-0.
My point is we have been blown out early 4 straight games. Many of these games have commonality. Physically man handled up front and lots of mental mistakes.
I think those bowl results over the last few years are related largely to the state of the overall program. It's no secret that the Iowa program was really swooning over the last few years. They ended up taking on superior opponents in LSU and Tennessee. They were overmatched, and it showed.
This year, I don't think there's any doubt that things have changed. This was a much different Iowa team from the last few years. Better chemistry was big, but definite improvements at LB and QB, among other positions. Plus, I don't think there's any question that the coaching staff took some inventory and made some improvements in their methods.
So I don't lump this Rose Bowl in with the last few lackluster bowl performances, because I think this Iowa team is markedly better than the others. There's no doubt Stanford was the better team, but I don't think they were 45-16 better. I think an Iowa team with its head on straight could have made a game of it, but they were largely out to lunch.
I agree, I know quite a few people that dropped the finances to go to the game, and can only feel sorry for them and then some. We that showing of fan support, you would think a better effort would have been given.
It was just not the on-field performance from the players but the staff really did a horrible job preparing for Stanford. What did you see in terms of wrinkles based on what we saw on tape about them? I do not recall seeing anything.
Yet we punted to McCafferey until he finally fielded one and scored. His return potential was well known by everyone before the game yet we punt to him. That's a coaching decision/preparation. The very first play of the game they throw to McCaffrey on the old David Johnson play. We did nothing to key on him or hit him from the DE end position coming out of the backfield to disrupt his route. It did not look like we paid him any extra attention to make someone else beat us. Coaching decision/preparation. Those are just a couple of examples of how this was a complete program failure.
Oh, I agree And1, should have made that clear, this was an overall team/program failure. Great season, and I love my Hawks, but I'm kind of getting sick of being little brother and getting beat like him when the spotlight is on.
Makes me appreciate the 2009 team more and more, not chosen to win, but went out and did it anyways in the Orange Bowl
Makes me appreciate the 2009 team more and more, not chosen to win, but went out and did it anyways in the Orange Bowl
I'm 46 and after the wheels came off today (which of course was early and often), I looked over at my nephew, who was decked from head to toe in all things Hawkeye (including official jersey, B&G pants and hat)...and am sad to say that at that moment he looked like a eff'ing CLOWN to me and I told him so and we both laughed.
Had precisely the same thoughts about those exact plays. It seemed like very little game-planning went into our prep. I'm sure there was plenty, but it didn't show itself on the field, unfortunately.
I think you are right about the difference this year being better chemistry. As in the supplements they are taking to get back to this level of play.
I'm 50. Was there in person in '86 and '91. Thought we had a decent shot this year. Now it's looking like I'll have to make it to 75 to get another chance. But at that point I'll probably have to have people explaining to me what's actually going on in the game, so where's the fun in that?
You can whip a donkey all day long, he wont out run a racehorse.
I think as Hawkeye fans we have to look at it as the Rose Bowl trip and not the desired Rose Bowl win. The journey vs the destination type thing.
Haven't been yet but I could see myself going even if Iowa wasn't playing. Still think I would thoroughly enjoy the venue and all the pageantry. Now if I Iowa was playing all the better, but I would at least try to not let the outcome affect the overall trip. Maybe easier said than done though.
Haven't been yet but I could see myself going even if Iowa wasn't playing. Still think I would thoroughly enjoy the venue and all the pageantry. Now if I Iowa was playing all the better, but I would at least try to not let the outcome affect the overall trip. Maybe easier said than done though.
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Ironically Mike Gundy is now 48...and he is still a man...
Ironically Mike Gundy is now 48...and he is still a man...
I am 35 and I feel the same way. My expectations for the Iowa program is not national titles. Quite frankly I can't even envision that happening. But a Rose Bowl win is my dream. It has seemed realistic at times but after each of our Rose Bowl performances in my life it feels as unattainable as the national title.
I'm 57 now, and was only a few months old on the other side of the world when Iowa last won. This coming year, the last time Iowa will have won a Rose Bowl will have been half way between then and the beginning of LAST century, when arguably the football was just being started then. I think about that too much and I feel too old...
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