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I went from being the NIPOTY to not even being honorable mention. I feel your pain.
 
I nominate @h-hawk for POTY for his daily updates in the “Ukraine Russia @seminole97 is heartbroken” thread.
It's heartbreaking that so many people over the decades saw where NATO expansion would end up were proven correct.
Almost as heartbreaking as the 10s of thousands slaughtered, hundreds of thousands maimed, and millions displaced.
But the visceral thrill of watching drone snuff vids is worth the price, amirite?

When you have people running the political spectrum from McNamara to Merkel telling you this will bring war to Europe, and the neocons do it anyways, how do you conclude they sought anything else?

Our current CIA Director is one of those people that opposed the expansion, and his warnings have proven prophetic.

When I ask you if you think our current CIA Director is really a 'Putin puppet' spreading Russian propaganda you won't answer, because you can't think critically about the issue. So you'll just stay mum on it, because you're an NPC and no one has given you an answer to parrot.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-06/arms-control-today/opposition-nato-expansion

June 26, 1997

Dear Mr. President,

We, the undersigned, believe that the current U.S. led effort to expand NATO, the focus of the recent Helsinki and Paris Summits, is a policy error of historic proportions. We believe that NATO expansion will decrease allied security and unsettle European stability for the following reasons:

In Russia, NATO expansion, which continues to be opposed across the entire political spectrum, will strengthen the nondemocratic opposition, undercut those who favor reform and cooperation with the West, bring the Russians to question the entire post-Cold War settlement, and galvanize resistance in the Duma to the START II and III treaties; In Europe, NATO expansion will draw a new line of division between the "ins" and the "outs," foster instability, and ultimately diminish the sense of security of those countries which are not included;

In NATO, expansion, which the Alliance has indicated is open-ended, will inevitably degrade NATO's ability to carry out its primary mission and will involve U.S. security guarantees to countries with serious border and national minority problems, and unevenly developed systems of democratic government;

In the U.S., NATO expansion will trigger an extended debate over its indeterminate, but certainly high, cost and will call into question the U.S. commitment to the Alliance, traditionally and rightly regarded as a centerpiece of U.S. foreign policy.

Because of these serious objections, and in the absence of any reason for rapid decision, we strongly urge that the NATO expansion process be suspended while alternative actions are pursued.
 
It would be cool to see who got the most likes throughout the year. Most viewed thread? Most websites are doing recaps. Hell FanDuel just show me how much I sucked in 2024 with Football being my most bet sport.

As @FlickShagwell once told @ottumwan in tx "you'll never be an HROT God". Same goes for this thread. Average all around. Be better in 2025

Best poster in 2024 is like being the tallest dwarf at ElfCon. Congrats! 🎉
 
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It's heartbreaking that so many people over the decades saw where NATO expansion would end up were proven correct.
Almost as heartbreaking as the 10s of thousands slaughtered, hundreds of thousands maimed, and millions displaced.
But the visceral thrill of watching drone snuff vids is worth the price, amirite?

When you have people running the political spectrum from McNamara to Merkel telling you this will bring war to Europe, and the neocons do it anyways, how do you conclude they sought anything else?

Our current CIA Director is one of those people that opposed the expansion, and his warnings have proven prophetic.

When I ask you if you think our current CIA Director is really a 'Putin puppet' spreading Russian propaganda you won't answer, because you can't think critically about the issue. So you'll just stay mum on it, because you're an NPC and no one has given you an answer to parrot.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-06/arms-control-today/opposition-nato-expansion

June 26, 1997

Dear Mr. President,

We, the undersigned, believe that the current U.S. led effort to expand NATO, the focus of the recent Helsinki and Paris Summits, is a policy error of historic proportions. We believe that NATO expansion will decrease allied security and unsettle European stability for the following reasons:

In Russia, NATO expansion, which continues to be opposed across the entire political spectrum, will strengthen the nondemocratic opposition, undercut those who favor reform and cooperation with the West, bring the Russians to question the entire post-Cold War settlement, and galvanize resistance in the Duma to the START II and III treaties; In Europe, NATO expansion will draw a new line of division between the "ins" and the "outs," foster instability, and ultimately diminish the sense of security of those countries which are not included;

In NATO, expansion, which the Alliance has indicated is open-ended, will inevitably degrade NATO's ability to carry out its primary mission and will involve U.S. security guarantees to countries with serious border and national minority problems, and unevenly developed systems of democratic government;

In the U.S., NATO expansion will trigger an extended debate over its indeterminate, but certainly high, cost and will call into question the U.S. commitment to the Alliance, traditionally and rightly regarded as a centerpiece of U.S. foreign policy.

Because of these serious objections, and in the absence of any reason for rapid decision, we strongly urge that the NATO expansion process be suspended while alternative actions are pursued.
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Too bad these people aren’t interested in learning anything, they’re only interested in thinking they’re right.
 
Motion ( or whatever word is used) to name Chis/"ryan" co-wpoty

@Chishawk1425 @Here_4_a_Day

Alaska poty ( it's easy and he keeps us all fairly in line)

@alaskanseminole
Moral mid poster= dude is consistent but lacks range.

@Moral

Should this receive 10+ likes I will accept it as the *****2024 official results poty/wpoty**** baring any of you actually doing anything with your lives and putting a poll together.
 
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It's heartbreaking that so many people over the decades saw where NATO expansion would end up were proven correct.
Almost as heartbreaking as the 10s of thousands slaughtered, hundreds of thousands maimed, and millions displaced.
But the visceral thrill of watching drone snuff vids is worth the price, amirite?

When you have people running the political spectrum from McNamara to Merkel telling you this will bring war to Europe, and the neocons do it anyways, how do you conclude they sought anything else?

Our current CIA Director is one of those people that opposed the expansion, and his warnings have proven prophetic.

When I ask you if you think our current CIA Director is really a 'Putin puppet' spreading Russian propaganda you won't answer, because you can't think critically about the issue. So you'll just stay mum on it, because you're an NPC and no one has given you an answer to parrot.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1997-06/arms-control-today/opposition-nato-expansion

June 26, 1997

Dear Mr. President,

We, the undersigned, believe that the current U.S. led effort to expand NATO, the focus of the recent Helsinki and Paris Summits, is a policy error of historic proportions. We believe that NATO expansion will decrease allied security and unsettle European stability for the following reasons:

In Russia, NATO expansion, which continues to be opposed across the entire political spectrum, will strengthen the nondemocratic opposition, undercut those who favor reform and cooperation with the West, bring the Russians to question the entire post-Cold War settlement, and galvanize resistance in the Duma to the START II and III treaties; In Europe, NATO expansion will draw a new line of division between the "ins" and the "outs," foster instability, and ultimately diminish the sense of security of those countries which are not included;

In NATO, expansion, which the Alliance has indicated is open-ended, will inevitably degrade NATO's ability to carry out its primary mission and will involve U.S. security guarantees to countries with serious border and national minority problems, and unevenly developed systems of democratic government;

In the U.S., NATO expansion will trigger an extended debate over its indeterminate, but certainly high, cost and will call into question the U.S. commitment to the Alliance, traditionally and rightly regarded as a centerpiece of U.S. foreign policy.

Because of these serious objections, and in the absence of any reason for rapid decision, we strongly urge that the NATO expansion process be suspended while alternative actions are pursued.
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It would be cool to see who got the most likes throughout the year. Most viewed thread? Most websites are doing recaps. Hell FanDuel just show me how much I sucked in 2024 with Football being my most bet sport.

As @FlickShagwell once told @ottumwan in tx "you'll never be an HROT God". Same goes for this thread. Average all around. Be better in 2025

Best poster in 2024 is like being the tallest dwarf at ElfCon. Congrats! 🎉

The Putin Ukraine War thread has far and away the most replies.
 
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