Dang. Big uns are happening every seven years or so in the region. Folks better build or adjust lifestyles accordingly.
*** Oops, it seems that it will be more often than every seven years moving forward. Bummer.
In Minnesota, it simply won't stop raining
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*** Oops, it seems that it will be more often than every seven years moving forward. Bummer.
Uvalde had zero security with the propped open exit door,.. And besides, absolutely nothing works 100%, that is reality, and you will never overcome that.
Dude.
Joe has a Masters in architecture; you think he doesn’t understand the implications of doors that are left open?
Hell, when the American National Standards Institute looks to re-assess their Parameters for the Structural Integrity of Doors, Door Frames & Door Security Systems in Primary Educational Facilities guidelines every year they consult with Joe to get the latest industry innovations and insight.
Probably gets a call from OSHA when preventable tragedies like Uvalde occur, too, just to get some guidance on how to proceed going forward.
Stay in your lane.
So what's your solution other than doing nothing and accepting these massacres?
Keeping guns away from people too irresponsible to own them seems to work just marvelously in nearly every other Western nation....
Still not a 100% solution, but that's OK because they will never get there either,.. We have a 2nd amendment that isn't going away, so our solutions will have accept that reality,.., as will you.
So you're suggesting that since there's not a solution that will be 100% effective we should ignore the issue and "accept reality"? JFC
We need to ban all cars, because there's always a non-zero chance your seatbelts and airbags won't prevent you from dying in a crash...
River going to 19 feet at Guttenberg. That will be about a foot of water in the walkout basement level from what I remember. Might not get the pontoon on the water at all this year...
Off subject a bit, but tell me about your geo thermal. Our system just bit the dust. We may not have the right situation, but I am curious for sure.
Open loop is not on the table, as I don’t want to stress our well. Due to how our waterline comes into the house and the location of the septic field, we our pretty tight for space to bury lines. Maybe horizontal?
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I built on a steep hill with maybe 75 feet of fall from front to back. Lynch drilled like 10 lines from underneath the garage and out the bottom of the hill and pulled the line back to the top. They tied the lines together in a manifold that was run under the footings ahead of time. Need a 400 amp service as well. Bills for all electric run 125 summer to 300 winter but I would have needed a propane tank here fire gas. With some rebates at the time I spent like 14K. Had it for 11 years now with no major problems. Blower went bad during Covid and took a week to get anew one. That was bad….
10 lines for how big of a system? One system I read about said that they used a two foot bucket and placed lines at the outside wall of the trench, keeping them approx. 2’ apart. We are only heating/ cooling 1,200 sf.
Our bills for propane heat and ac range from $90 to $150, plus approx. $500 gallons of propane yearly. This will be the last time we do this in this house, and we hope to go with some solar to lessen the power bills and emissions.
10 lines for how big of a system? One system I read about said that they used a two foot bucket and placed lines at the outside wall of the trench, keeping them approx. 2’ apart. We are only heating/ cooling 1,200 sf. with an unfinished unconditioned basement.
Our bills for propane heat and air range from $90 to $150, plus approx. $500 gallons of propane yearly. This will be the last time we do this for in this house, and we hope to go with some solar to lessen the power bills.
This system has caught my eye. Thoughts? @
How about you @Joes Place ?
If you've got septic field/space concerns, I'd compare your geo option to a heat pump system, if you've got a small sqf footprint.
I have not researched, but there may even be 2-stage systems out there for even colder climates; standard heat pumps nowadays will run to around -15F before de-rating. My sister has a larger house and they just put in a heat pump setup (which I think may have natural gas backup for very cold winter nights).
The geo thermal is a bigger ticket, but with potential long term savings as an offset to costs. Efficiency claims are encouraging.
Our most extreme cold stretches typically used to get sub zero each year for about a month and sub freezing for a month straight, to go along with up and down temps from Sept to early May.
We lived in this house for 12 years without AC, but today’s temps are not conducive to that option.
Advantage for geothermal heat pump setup is constant "sink/source" temperature, so you won't beat that for overall efficiency.
But for a smaller home, air-based heat pumps may do an adequate, and still very cost-effective job. Over time, the geo system will cost less (provided you get no system leaks/issues); if you're installing near a septic field, and may have ground settling, I'd be concerned about system reliability over the long-haul. You really want stable/solid ground for running your geothermal piping.
I have about 1600 feet up and 1000 finished in the basement ( though we rarely go down there anymore ). I spent 2500 for a dual zone and I would not recommend that, waste of money. Basement is always 5-7 degrees cooler and you can't heat the basement while cooling upstairs. I have an open stairway to the basement so in summer we often put a fan at the base and blow cooler air to the upstairs. The best thing about the system is it's not only quiet but unlike forced air, not drafty, on and off every 15 - 20 minutes when extra hot or cold. Just a constant light circulation...
We are also considering one of the mini split systems, tho it is a shame to not utilize existing duct work. I have wondered if the interior units could be floor mounted at the duct ports…
If you've got the ductwork, I'd skip a mini-split setup and utilize the ductwork.
Only consider a mini-split for an area that gets too much sun to keep cool enough in the summer. My folks have that for a sun-room/plant room that was originally built to be a 3 season porch that they added in windows/insulation and now it's a year round sun room w/ the minisplit
