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In one of his final acts, Biden pardons family members.

You explain it to me since I’m struggling. And of course you realize the SCOTUS position on what pardons mean, correct?

It should be tested. I doubt it’s going to be because the media would blow it up as political, and people like you would lap it up.

I don't watch the news. Try thinking on your own for once and not going full MAGA.
 
Burdick v. United States

I’ll help you since most of here just repeat inaccurate talking points and don’t really base your posts on reality.

You're funny, you're so outraged by pardons like Biden was the first person to do it. trump was doing it before him (selling them for money) and he'll do them after this 4 years. Hell, trump was trying to pardon himself, and since he couldn't he got the SCOTUS to say he was basically pardoned. So if you're going to be outraged by Biden, you must be really pissed about trump.
 
I don’t agree with all the pardons recently.

I also don’t believe the Biden Crime Family nonsense.
Biden family business associates Tony Bobulinski and Jason Galanis testified under oath President Joe Biden actively participated in his family’s corrupt business dealings and acted as the closer for deals with Chinese and Russian entities.
  • Mr. Tony Bobulinski, Biden family business associate: “Joe Biden was more than a participant in and beneficiary of his family’s business; he was an active, aware enabler who met with business associates such as myself to further the business, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability.”
  • Mr. Jason Galanis, Biden family business associate: “During the May 4th party, we were told to go to an area of the restaurant to gather because Hunter was going to call his father. Hunter called his father, said hello and ‘hold on, Pops,’ then put the call on speakerphone and said, ‘I am here with our friends I told you were coming to town, and we wanted to say hello.’ The Vice President said hello and some pleasantries […] and then seemed like he wanted to bring the call to an end by saying, ‘Ok then, you be good to my boy.’ Hunter responded by saying, ‘Everything is good, and we are moving ahead.’ The Vice President said something about ‘being helpful,’ and Hunter ended the call by saying that he was going to call his father later. […] A few days after this May 4th party, an email my lawyer provided to this committee shows that Devon had confirmed Ms. Baturina was committed to a ‘hard order’ of $10-20 million in a Burnham investment banking client.”
 
Biden family business associates Tony Bobulinski and Jason Galanis testified under oath President Joe Biden actively participated in his family’s corrupt business dealings and acted as the closer for deals with Chinese and Russian entities.
  • Mr. Tony Bobulinski, Biden family business associate: “Joe Biden was more than a participant in and beneficiary of his family’s business; he was an active, aware enabler who met with business associates such as myself to further the business, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability.”
  • Mr. Jason Galanis, Biden family business associate: “During the May 4th party, we were told to go to an area of the restaurant to gather because Hunter was going to call his father. Hunter called his father, said hello and ‘hold on, Pops,’ then put the call on speakerphone and said, ‘I am here with our friends I told you were coming to town, and we wanted to say hello.’ The Vice President said hello and some pleasantries […] and then seemed like he wanted to bring the call to an end by saying, ‘Ok then, you be good to my boy.’ Hunter responded by saying, ‘Everything is good, and we are moving ahead.’ The Vice President said something about ‘being helpful,’ and Hunter ended the call by saying that he was going to call his father later. […] A few days after this May 4th party, an email my lawyer provided to this committee shows that Devon had confirmed Ms. Baturina was committed to a ‘hard order’ of $10-20 million in a Burnham investment banking client.”
Ah, Comer’s report.

How come nothing ever came of that?
 
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Biden family business associates Tony Bobulinski and Jason Galanis testified under oath President Joe Biden actively participated in his family’s corrupt business dealings and acted as the closer for deals with Chinese and Russian entities.
  • Mr. Tony Bobulinski, Biden family business associate: “Joe Biden was more than a participant in and beneficiary of his family’s business; he was an active, aware enabler who met with business associates such as myself to further the business, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability.”
  • Mr. Jason Galanis, Biden family business associate: “During the May 4th party, we were told to go to an area of the restaurant to gather because Hunter was going to call his father. Hunter called his father, said hello and ‘hold on, Pops,’ then put the call on speakerphone and said, ‘I am here with our friends I told you were coming to town, and we wanted to say hello.’ The Vice President said hello and some pleasantries […] and then seemed like he wanted to bring the call to an end by saying, ‘Ok then, you be good to my boy.’ Hunter responded by saying, ‘Everything is good, and we are moving ahead.’ The Vice President said something about ‘being helpful,’ and Hunter ended the call by saying that he was going to call his father later. […] A few days after this May 4th party, an email my lawyer provided to this committee shows that Devon had confirmed Ms. Baturina was committed to a ‘hard order’ of $10-20 million in a Burnham investment banking client.”
You can tell me Hunter is a piece of crap. Still what law did Joe break and what money did he receive. We were told for years that there was a money trail. So far, we have seen nothing of a money trail. Those same individuals, state Joe was never paid for any of this. Im not saying its dirty, just as dirty as what Trump does. Trump grifts all over the place, for influence, do we want to investigate the Saudi investment?
 
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All the other preemptive pardons were cover the ones for his family. Just sayin.
So what are you saying?

I don't condone it at all binsfield. At the same point Trump has said multiple times he is going weaponize the system and go after any individual that has opposed him. He has said was going to go after the January 6th committee. Pelosi, Bidens. Is this normal or expected behavior. Why do we allow it. Do I agree with the pardons no. Do I understand it, with Trump yes I do. You cannot Trust trump to be rational and you have stated as much.
 
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Pardoning innocent people while stating the DOJ and court systems always get it right.

Seems to be a disconnect between what liberals say and what they do. Nothing new there.

No need to pardon anyone if they truly believed (disinformation) the garbage they spewed.

Newflash. They don’t believe it. The only people that believe it are the idiots that post incessantly on this board.
I was going to say something to this effect.

You’re either admitting that there is shit that needs to be hidden…or you’re admitting that the DOJ can be weaponized against political opponents whether there is anything there or not. And the only way to know that for certain, is to have seen it or done it yourself.
 
lol. Sure
What crimes related to the presidency have they been charged with? Please be specific and list the court. Now how many in Trump Part 1 executive suite were convicted of crimes?

You’ll just ignore this and continue to spout your mindless propaganda but whatever.
 
I was going to say something to this effect.

You’re either admitting that there is shit that needs to be hidden…or you’re admitting that the DOJ can be weaponized against political opponents whether there is anything there or not. And the only way to know that for certain, is to have seen it or done it yourself.
Or, your successor has nominated a guy like Kash Patel to lead the FBI
 
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I was going to say something to this effect.

You’re either admitting that there is shit that needs to be hidden…or you’re admitting that the DOJ can be weaponized against political opponents whether there is anything there or not. And the only way to know that for certain, is to have seen it or done it yourself.
Here is the issue, I don't think DOJ has been weaponized, I will listen to republicans but also say Trump has done a shitload of crap that he could have been investigated for. However Trumps plan, is to remove any one in the departments who oppose his ideas, clear out all opposition, then weaponize those entities and attack his enemies. So the statement is that Trump is trying to remove the guardrails in place . . . because that is what Trump has stated he was going to do. So the real question is do you believe Trump will do what he says in regards to this or not?
 
Tax evasion for not reporting taxes. The fact I am an accountant I can tell you how he violated the law. There is no other check from Joe or his family that appears to be the scheme that Republicans had touted for years. I am all for following the money. You had 4 years to prove you claim and found nothing. What has truly been proven?? A gun charge and tax evasion. Great job guys.
Not paying taxes on unreported income. Did you bother to 'follow the money' on the source of that income?
You know, the unreported income from China? It has been looked into, are you unaware of that?

If the NYT ignores the story, does that mean it just didn't exist?

 
Not paying taxes on unreported income. Did you bother to 'follow the money' on the source of that income?
You know, the unreported income from China? It has been looked into, are you unaware of that?

If the NYT ignores the story, does that mean it just didn't exist?

Seminole. Its unreported income. Foreign income does not make it illegal, if so the saudi investment would cause Trumps to be illegal. That was also set up for influence and went even more direct than the Hunter situation. But go on, if Comer found something illegal, why didn't he file a charge . . . any charge.
 
I was going to say something to this effect.

You’re either admitting that there is shit that needs to be hidden…or you’re admitting that the DOJ can be weaponized against political opponents whether there is anything there or not. And the only way to know that for certain, is to have seen it or done it yourself.
You haven't a clue
 
So what are you saying?

I don't condone it at all binsfield. At the same point Trump has said multiple times he is going weaponize the system and go after any individual that has opposed him. He has said was going to go after the January 6th committee. Pelosi, Bidens. Is this normal or expected behavior. Why do we allow it. Do I agree with the pardons no. Do I understand it, with Trump yes I do. You cannot Trust trump to be rational and you have stated as much.
Using that reasoning Trump would have been justified in issuing preemptive pardons before he left office in 2021.

Navarro and Bannon would have appreciated it 😂
 
Seminole. Its unreported income. Foreign income does not make it illegal, if so the saudi investment would cause Trumps to be illegal. That was also set up for influence and went even more direct than the Hunter situation. But go on, if Comer found something illegal, why didn't he file a charge . . . any charge.

First, Comer can't file charges, that isn't a Congressional responsibility (or power).
He did, however, refer their findings to the DOJ.
Biden's weaponized DOJ sat on it, and now Biden has pardoned the accused.

What you want to happen, Comer's referral, took place. And then the DOJ did nothing.
Your comments belie ignorance on this, and that indicts the media who steadfastly diminished and ignored this story while gaslighting us about Biden's fitness for office.

You didn't know about the millions from China, and didn't know it had been referred to the DOJ.
Now that you know, how do you look at DOJ (non)response, and Biden's pardons?

Published: Jun 5, 2024

Comer, Jordan, and Smith Refer Hunter and James Biden for Criminal Prosecution as Part of Impeachment Inquiry of President Biden​


WASHINGTON—House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.), House Committee on the Judiciary Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), and House Committee on Ways and Means Jason Smith (R-Mo.) today sent criminal referrals to the Department of Justice recommending Hunter and James Biden be charged with making false statements to Congress about key aspects of the impeachment inquiry of President Joe Biden. These false statements implicate Joe Biden’s knowledge of and role in his family’s influence peddling schemes and appear to be a calculated effort to shield Joe Biden from the impeachment inquiry.
“Our investigation has revealed President Biden knew about, participated in, and benefitted from his family cashing in on the Biden name around the world. Despite this record of evidence, President Biden continues to lie to the American people about his involvement in these influence peddling schemes. It appears making false statements runs in the Biden family. We’ve caught President Biden’s son and brother making blatant lies to Congress in what appears to be a concerted effort to hide Joe Biden’s involvement in his family’s schemes. As part of our efforts to hold the Bidens accountable for profiting off public office, we are today referring Hunter and James Biden to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution for making false statements to Congress. This is not the end of our efforts to hold the Bidens accountable; it’s only the beginning,” said Chairman Comer.
“Lying to Congress is a serious crime with serious consequences. Both Hunter and James Biden did just that. They lied to coverup President Biden’s involvement in their family’s international influence peddling schemes that have generated millions of dollars. These criminal referrals are a reflection of criminal wrongdoing by the Biden family, and the Department of Justice must take steps to hold the Bidens accountable,” said Chairman Jordan.
As part of the impeachment inquiry of President Biden, the Committees are investigating the President’s role in and knowledge of his family’s international influence peddling schemes that have generated over $18 million for Biden family members and their related companies, and over $27 million when including the payments to their business associates, who often were used to transfer funds to Biden family members. The Committees have also identified an additional $8 million in loans—most of which has not been repaid—Hunter and James Biden. The Committees have not identified legitimate services warranting such lucrative payments and have found that Joe Biden often interacted with his family’s business associates as they were funneling the Bidens millions of dollars and lied to the American people about these interactions.
“President Biden claims no one is above the law. We will soon see his Department of Justice put that principle to the test. Congress cannot allow anyone, not even the president’s son or his brother, to stand in the way of its oversight of the executive branch or deny the American people the accountability they deserve. The IRS whistleblowers have provided indisputable evidence that Hunter Biden broke the law and lied to Congress during his February deposition. Lying to Congress to impede an ongoing congressional investigation is a serious crime. If the Department of Justice fails to act on our criminal referral and hold Hunter Biden accountable, they will once again be telling the American people there are two tiers of justice in this country. One for the wealthy and politically connected, and one for everyone else,” said Chairman Smith.
 
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Please tell me what evidence and charges. Lets see who the clown really is. Put up or shut up. That is the challenge.
Questions like this are pure gaslighting. You know very well the evidence against the Biden family. Tell me Mr accountant what is the purpose of off shore shell companies with significant deposits but zero identifiable business tied to the deposits? Anyone else with this activity would fave serious questions, be prosecuted, and go to jail. Their accountant would face the same scrutiny. Defend it as an accountant. Scumbag
 
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Questions like this are pure gaslighting. You know very well the evidence against the Biden family. Tell me Mr accountant what is the purpose of off shore shell companies with significant deposits but zero identifiable business tied to the deposits? Anyone else with this activity would fave serious questions, be prosecuted, and go to jail. Their accountant would face the same scrutiny. Defend it as an accountant. Scumbag
No I don't, it is not gaslighting, you are the gaslighter. Put up or shut up, show the evidence you have that you can prove and press charges. End of story. Don't tell me hypotheticals. Put up or shut up again. I can say I am a billionaire. In your realm I can say whatever I want and not have to prove it.
 
First, Comer can't file charges, that isn't a Congressional responsibility (or power).
He did, however, refer their findings to the DOJ.
Biden's weaponized DOJ sat on it, and now Biden has pardoned the accused.

What you want to happen, Comer's referral, took place. And then the DOJ did nothing.
Your comments belie ignorance on this, and that indicts the media who steadfastly diminished and ignored this story while gaslighting us about Biden's fitness for office.

You didn't know about the millions from China, and didn't know it had been referred to the DOJ.
Now that you know, how do you look at DOJ (non)response, and Biden's pardons?

Published: Jun 5, 2024

Comer, Jordan, and Smith Refer Hunter and James Biden for Criminal Prosecution as Part of Impeachment Inquiry of President Biden​


WASHINGTON—House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.), House Committee on the Judiciary Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), and House Committee on Ways and Means Jason Smith (R-Mo.) today sent criminal referrals to the Department of Justice recommending Hunter and James Biden be charged with making false statements to Congress about key aspects of the impeachment inquiry of President Joe Biden. These false statements implicate Joe Biden’s knowledge of and role in his family’s influence peddling schemes and appear to be a calculated effort to shield Joe Biden from the impeachment inquiry.
“Our investigation has revealed President Biden knew about, participated in, and benefitted from his family cashing in on the Biden name around the world. Despite this record of evidence, President Biden continues to lie to the American people about his involvement in these influence peddling schemes. It appears making false statements runs in the Biden family. We’ve caught President Biden’s son and brother making blatant lies to Congress in what appears to be a concerted effort to hide Joe Biden’s involvement in his family’s schemes. As part of our efforts to hold the Bidens accountable for profiting off public office, we are today referring Hunter and James Biden to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution for making false statements to Congress. This is not the end of our efforts to hold the Bidens accountable; it’s only the beginning,” said Chairman Comer.
“Lying to Congress is a serious crime with serious consequences. Both Hunter and James Biden did just that. They lied to coverup President Biden’s involvement in their family’s international influence peddling schemes that have generated millions of dollars. These criminal referrals are a reflection of criminal wrongdoing by the Biden family, and the Department of Justice must take steps to hold the Bidens accountable,” said Chairman Jordan.
As part of the impeachment inquiry of President Biden, the Committees are investigating the President’s role in and knowledge of his family’s international influence peddling schemes that have generated over $18 million for Biden family members and their related companies, and over $27 million when including the payments to their business associates, who often were used to transfer funds to Biden family members. The Committees have also identified an additional $8 million in loans—most of which has not been repaid—Hunter and James Biden. The Committees have not identified legitimate services warranting such lucrative payments and have found that Joe Biden often interacted with his family’s business associates as they were funneling the Bidens millions of dollars and lied to the American people about these interactions.
“President Biden claims no one is above the law. We will soon see his Department of Justice put that principle to the test. Congress cannot allow anyone, not even the president’s son or his brother, to stand in the way of its oversight of the executive branch or deny the American people the accountability they deserve. The IRS whistleblowers have provided indisputable evidence that Hunter Biden broke the law and lied to Congress during his February deposition. Lying to Congress to impede an ongoing congressional investigation is a serious crime. If the Department of Justice fails to act on our criminal referral and hold Hunter Biden accountable, they will once again be telling the American people there are two tiers of justice in this country. One for the wealthy and politically connected, and one for everyone else,” said Chairman Smith.
So Comer and Smith referred based on false statements (not the underlying substantive charges), and the evidence was simply what the whistleblowers claimed?

I didn’t follow this carefully and I suspect neither did you.
 
So Comer and Smith referred based on false statements (not the underlying substantive charges), and the evidence was simply what the whistleblowers claimed?

The evidence isn't what the IRS whistleblowers claimed, it's what the subpoenaed bank records showed.

I didn’t follow this carefully and I suspect neither did you.
I don't blame you, the media covered for the administration and told you over and over again it was nothing to should pay attention to. In between reminding you that Biden was sharp and focused.
 
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The evidence isn't what the IRS whistleblowers claimed, it's what the subpoenaed bank records showed.


I don't blame you, the media covered for the administration and told you over and over again it was nothing to should pay attention to. In between reminding you that Biden was sharp and focused.
The referral was silly, and I think the false statement claims were based on recollections of meetings and such. More an attempt to distract from Trump’s troubles than anything.
 
What was the underlying crime that turned expired misdemeanors into felonies again?
That trial was a sham and I GUARANTEE the convictions will be overturned. This was a manufactured verdict with manufactured charges. House of cards you might say.

The libs on here just can't see past their hate to grasp the actual facts and the shame this brings on the NY court system.

They cant stop regurgitating the talking points can they? Minds full of mush and lacking any critical thinking.
 
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