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I certainly don’t agree with everything he says, but it does give an interesting perspective on Trump voters

“So I get into it with a friend on another platform who keeps spewing the same propaganda as if anyone who voted for Trump lost their minds and rely on him like God to make our lives better. He also accused me of being willing to sidestep democracy to get the things I want.

I may have lost a friend, because my correction was as follows:

“You folks and your propaganda are nauseating. You think it’s about making my life better? It’s all about me?

You know what I wanted out of Trump?

The same damn thing I wanted out of Obama, Biden, Bush, Big Bush and and Clinton.

Those those things are the following

- Transparency
- A secure border
- Honesty
- Common sense leadership
- Doing exactly what you campaigned on
- A strong military
- An end to political indoctrination in our schools
- Respect for personal freedom
- And someone who would think about America first before giving everything to the world while his own people suffer.

Not one of them came through. Each one of them failed. Most didn’t even try. They just faked it well enough that you are still pining for their pipe dream. But guess who did come through? As flawed as he is as a person, it was freaking Trump. A man I was never a fan of personally but respect because he does the hell what he says he’s going to do or tries.

That’s what I voted for. Not some polished fake politician who pretends to be an angel but is doing the devils work as we are distracted by their platitudes and symbolic gestures that get us absolutely no where.

No one is side stepping democracy, genius. By the way, we don’t live in a democracy. We live in a constitutional republic.

But let’s go with your twisted idea of democracy.

Was it democracy when Biden coerced Big Tech into silencing millions of Americans for their opinions and thoughts?

Was it democracy when that old man lied to you and told you he didn’t know about his sons dealings and that the laptop didn’t exist? Because for many that may have changed their vote in the 2020 election if they knew then candidate Biden was compromised.

Was it democracy when he got 51 intelligence agents who we are supposed to trust, to go along with the lie and call it Russian disinformation?

Was it democracy to force people to choose between feeding their damn family and a damn shot in the arm that is causing damage to a lot of people?

Was it democracy when Biden flew in hundreds of thousands of migrants in the middle of the night without telling us and also opened the borders? Did we the American people have a say in that? No the heck we didn’t.

Was it democracy when if we question elections or vaccines that we get silenced and are forced to self sensor just to survive?

It that’s your democracy? You can keep that crap bro, respectfully.

Trump is no God or saint but it’s a damn shame it took a flawed man to do right by the American people. He’s showing you how corrupt your government truly is and I’m here for it. No regrets whatsoever.”

Copied and pasted from a facebook user
 
I certainly don’t agree with everything he says, but it does give an interesting perspective on Trump voters

“So I get into it with a friend on another platform who keeps spewing the same propaganda as if anyone who voted for Trump lost their minds and rely on him like God to make our lives better. He also accused me of being willing to sidestep democracy to get the things I want.

I may have lost a friend, because my correction was as follows:

“You folks and your propaganda are nauseating. You think it’s about making my life better? It’s all about me?

You know what I wanted out of Trump?

The same damn thing I wanted out of Obama, Biden, Bush, Big Bush and and Clinton.

Those those things are the following

- Transparency
- A secure border
- Honesty
- Common sense leadership
- Doing exactly what you campaigned on
- A strong military
- An end to political indoctrination in our schools
- Respect for personal freedom
- And someone who would think about America first before giving everything to the world while his own people suffer.

Not one of them came through. Each one of them failed. Most didn’t even try. They just faked it well enough that you are still pining for their pipe dream. But guess who did come through? As flawed as he is as a person, it was freaking Trump. A man I was never a fan of personally but respect because he does the hell what he says he’s going to do or tries.

That’s what I voted for. Not some polished fake politician who pretends to be an angel but is doing the devils work as we are distracted by their platitudes and symbolic gestures that get us absolutely no where.

No one is side stepping democracy, genius. By the way, we don’t live in a democracy. We live in a constitutional republic.

But let’s go with your twisted idea of democracy.

Was it democracy when Biden coerced Big Tech into silencing millions of Americans for their opinions and thoughts?

Was it democracy when that old man lied to you and told you he didn’t know about his sons dealings and that the laptop didn’t exist? Because for many that may have changed their vote in the 2020 election if they knew then candidate Biden was compromised.

Was it democracy when he got 51 intelligence agents who we are supposed to trust, to go along with the lie and call it Russian disinformation?

Was it democracy to force people to choose between feeding their damn family and a damn shot in the arm that is causing damage to a lot of people?

Was it democracy when Biden flew in hundreds of thousands of migrants in the middle of the night without telling us and also opened the borders? Did we the American people have a say in that? No the heck we didn’t.

Was it democracy when if we question elections or vaccines that we get silenced and are forced to self sensor just to survive?

It that’s your democracy? You can keep that crap bro, respectfully.

Trump is no God or saint but it’s a damn shame it took a flawed man to do right by the American people. He’s showing you how corrupt your government truly is and I’m here for it. No regrets whatsoever.”

Copied and pasted from a facebook user

Interesting read??

Watching paint dry is more interesting than that read.
 
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I actually made the effort to read and then got to this:

No one is side stepping democracy, genius. By the way, we don’t live in a democracy. We live in a constitutional republic.

And then I just chortled. It’s like they drop this knowledge bomb on us and we’re supposed to react and go: “you know what? Now having this con-man and his band of misfit oligarchs lead us off the cliff is perfectly a-okay with me”
 
This is going to blow your mind but understanding how your opponent thinks and acts can help you in the future
Right — because if there's one thing we know about Trump and the MAGA crowd, it's that they want to understand their opponent and make changes for the future.

Also: LOLOLOLOL at you posting something that advocates support for Trump and his cohort that includes the words "Transparency," "Honesty" and "Common sense leadership." GTFO.
 
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I certainly don’t agree with everything he says, but it does give an interesting perspective on Trump voters

“So I get into it with a friend on another platform who keeps spewing the same propaganda as if anyone who voted for Trump lost their minds and rely on him like God to make our lives better. He also accused me of being willing to sidestep democracy to get the things I want.

I may have lost a friend, because my correction was as follows:

“You folks and your propaganda are nauseating. You think it’s about making my life better? It’s all about me?

You know what I wanted out of Trump?

The same damn thing I wanted out of Obama, Biden, Bush, Big Bush and and Clinton.

Those those things are the following

- Transparency
- A secure border
- Honesty
- Common sense leadership
- Doing exactly what you campaigned on
- A strong military
- An end to political indoctrination in our schools
- Respect for personal freedom
- And someone who would think about America first before giving everything to the world while his own people suffer.
This is a laughable list:

- Transparency TRUMP IS NOT TRANSPARENT, EXAMPLE, DOGE
- A secure border TRUMP DIDNT SECURE THE BORDER LAST TIME, AND HE HASNT DONE IT YET EVEN THOUGH HE
PROMISED DAY 1 TO DEPORT 11 MILLION, BIG LIE
- Honesty TRUMP LIED AND FIBBED 30,000 TIMES BASED ON COUNTS IN HIS FIRST TERM
- Common sense leadership VERY LAUGABLE, BLEACHING LUNGS TO CURE COVID, AND NOW TARIFFS ALL OVER THE PLACE
- Doing exactly what you campaigned on TRUMP DOESNT DO THIS, DIDNT BUILD A WALL ETC ETC
- A strong military
- An end to political indoctrination in our schools WHO WAS BEING POLICTICALLY INDOCRINATED? CULTURAL TRUTHS YES
- Respect for personal freedom TRUMP THREATENS ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH HIM; NO FREEDOM
- And someone who would think about America first before giving everything to the world while his own people suffer.
HAHAHAHA TRUMP IS ONLY TRUMP FIRST

That guy is laughable
 
I certainly don’t agree with everything he says, but it does give an interesting perspective on Trump voters

“So I get into it with a friend on another platform who keeps spewing the same propaganda as if anyone who voted for Trump lost their minds and rely on him like God to make our lives better. He also accused me of being willing to sidestep democracy to get the things I want.

I may have lost a friend, because my correction was as follows:

“You folks and your propaganda are nauseating. You think it’s about making my life better? It’s all about me?

You know what I wanted out of Trump?

The same damn thing I wanted out of Obama, Biden, Bush, Big Bush and and Clinton.

Those those things are the following

- Transparency
- A secure border
- Honesty
- Common sense leadership
- Doing exactly what you campaigned on
- A strong military
- An end to political indoctrination in our schools
- Respect for personal freedom
- And someone who would think about America first before giving everything to the world while his own people suffer.

Not one of them came through. Each one of them failed. Most didn’t even try. They just faked it well enough that you are still pining for their pipe dream. But guess who did come through? As flawed as he is as a person, it was freaking Trump. A man I was never a fan of personally but respect because he does the hell what he says he’s going to do or tries.

That’s what I voted for. Not some polished fake politician who pretends to be an angel but is doing the devils work as we are distracted by their platitudes and symbolic gestures that get us absolutely no where.

No one is side stepping democracy, genius. By the way, we don’t live in a democracy. We live in a constitutional republic.

But let’s go with your twisted idea of democracy.

Was it democracy when Biden coerced Big Tech into silencing millions of Americans for their opinions and thoughts?

Was it democracy when that old man lied to you and told you he didn’t know about his sons dealings and that the laptop didn’t exist? Because for many that may have changed their vote in the 2020 election if they knew then candidate Biden was compromised.

Was it democracy when he got 51 intelligence agents who we are supposed to trust, to go along with the lie and call it Russian disinformation?

Was it democracy to force people to choose between feeding their damn family and a damn shot in the arm that is causing damage to a lot of people?

Was it democracy when Biden flew in hundreds of thousands of migrants in the middle of the night without telling us and also opened the borders? Did we the American people have a say in that? No the heck we didn’t.

Was it democracy when if we question elections or vaccines that we get silenced and are forced to self sensor just to survive?

It that’s your democracy? You can keep that crap bro, respectfully.

Trump is no God or saint but it’s a damn shame it took a flawed man to do right by the American people. He’s showing you how corrupt your government truly is and I’m here for it. No regrets whatsoever.”

Copied and pasted from a facebook user
Hot damn you are stupid.
 
This was a very entertaining read! Chef’s kiss to OP’s lack of self awareness as usual.
The guy who routinely tells people on here they are morons read that post and said to himself, "This is incredible. I need to share this with the libtards."
 
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Thousands of planes running around the clock and hauling in migrants to every corner of America. How did you not see or hear about this??????
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I think it's interesting how people that are drawn to the strongman archetype almost always have convinced themselves that it's a novel concept or that this time won't end in with the realization that the strongman does not actually care about the anything accept power.
and that he is not exactly a strongman, more a stupid man.
 
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- Transparency (currently operating under a fog of mystery with DOGE etc..)
- A secure border (time will tell; substantial propaganda to sift through)
- Honesty (LOL; trooth and fakts abound)
- Common sense leadership (LOL; can't wait to invade gaza and greenland!)
- Doing exactly what you campaigned on (when do we get cheaper groceries and world peace?)
- A strong military (we've always had that in our lifetime; remember the GOP is the "party of peace" now?)
- An end to political indoctrination in our schools (LOL.... focused/deliberate indoctrination in response to the imagined)
- Respect for personal freedom (this is quite the spin; respect for SOME personal freedoms while removing others that don't match the rightist agenda)
- And someone who would think about America first before giving everything to the world while his own people suffer. (what does "america first" look like in action? Do they give the Ukraine money to poor people here? This narrative cracks me up; meanwhile, payments to Israel will flow steadily)


TDS is believing all of what you posted.
 
- Transparency
- A secure border
- Honesty
- Common sense leadership
- Doing exactly what you campaigned on
- A strong military
- An end to political indoctrination in our schools
- Respect for personal freedom
- And someone who would think about America first before giving everything to the world while his own people suffer.

But guess who did come through? As flawed as he is as a person, it was freaking Trump.

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I certainly don’t agree with everything he says, but it does give an interesting perspective on Trump voters

“So I get into it with a friend on another platform who keeps spewing the same propaganda as if anyone who voted for Trump lost their minds and rely on him like God to make our lives better. He also accused me of being willing to sidestep democracy to get the things I want.

I may have lost a friend, because my correction was as follows:

“You folks and your propaganda are nauseating. You think it’s about making my life better? It’s all about me?

You know what I wanted out of Trump?

The same damn thing I wanted out of Obama, Biden, Bush, Big Bush and and Clinton.

Those those things are the following

- Transparency
Trump is transparent???? He has never disclosed or showed his income taxes and now we know why because he lied on them as proven in court on the valuation of his properties. Trump didnt divest himself of his assets, really, and did he set up a trust this time to house his assets, and liquidate to have no conflict of interets.
 
- Transparency
- A secure border
- Honesty
- Common sense leadership
- Doing exactly what you campaigned on
- A strong military
- An end to political indoctrination in our schools
- Respect for personal freedom
- And someone who would think about America first before giving everything to the world while his own people suffer.

But guess who did come through? As flawed as he is as a person, it was freaking Trump.

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Examples and evidence. Where did he come through? He signed absolutely no laws of any consequence his first term except the big tax give away to the ultra and really rich and to big corps. He didnt build his wall, and Mexico didnt pay for the part that was built.

He made a knee jerk treaty with the Taliban and had the US running out of Afghan!! His first term tariffs crippled US farmers who lost billioins and Trump had to ask Congress to give the farmers $35 extra billion as farm support, total mess

What has he accomplished?
 
Right — because if there's one thing we know about Trump and the MAGA crowd, it's that they want to understand their opponent and make changes for the future.

Also: LOLOLOLOL at you posting something that advocates support for Trump and his cohort that includes the words "Honesty" and "Common sense leadership." GTFO.
What did my first sentence say?
 
Hello OP, here are some words for you to read. Feels free to address any of them. I'm just winging it off of memory so feel free to add anything I missed.

Trump started a meme crypto coin for him and his wife. The result was they stole tens of billions of dollars from supporters. Given the pump and dumps it has done recently after the major rug pull it is likely people are buying access through the crypto coin.

Trump has given the world's richest man total access to any government agency he wants under the guise of cost savings. He has directly went after government agencies such as the CFPB. The consumer financial protection bureau essentially pays for itself and has returned 21 billion dollars to consumers that banks and etc have defrauded from Americans. Twitter was going to fall under the CFPB because Elon wants to use Twitter as a payment processor much like PayPal. Some heinous things the CFPB has done is make sure banks can't rearrange transactions to get the most overdraft fees as possible. They have also made it so medical debt (the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US) isn't included on credit reports.

In the quest of Elon trying to kneecap the 11 or so agencies investing him to include the NLRB, SEC, CFPB, OSHA, USAID, etc; DOGE and Trump have lost court battles that include them losing access to those agencies and an order to destroy the servers used by DOGE. They have ignored those judges. That destroys the relationship between the co-equal branches of government, and pulls us in the direction of authoritarianism.

Trump pardoned the Silk Roads site creator. The Silk Roads was a deep web drug and murder for hire marketplace. Through their sale of online drugs they lead to the deaths of many teens and adults. How can one pretend to be so concerned about drugs coming across the border and pardon such a person? Other pardons include pedophiles that were part of the J6 cop assaulters. Mostly recently he was coming to the support of Andrew Tate; a renowned sex trafficker.

Trump ran under the guise of a more peaceful candidate and many fell for that. Under Trump 1 he executed 400% more drone strikes than Obama and assassinated some Iranians. In Trump 2 he has threaded Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Norway, Gaza, and Panama. He did not run on any of those, those came out after he was elected. It appears there is a good chance the US will abandon NATO, and appears we will be abandoning Ukraine. Not opposing Russia's advance on a sovereign nation is an open invitation to imperialism everywhere.

Smaller and more nefarious stuff such as deregulating PFAS (forever chemicals) has occured too. It will only help to continue the rise of cancer in the US. However, it does help profits now.

Which one of the above do you support?

I want to insert a way of thinking into all of this. Consider how audits actually work and the sheer size of these organizations. A person and a band of unvetted young men can not properly audit an organization in the amount of time that they have, let alone several organizations. They are not auditing departments, rather eliminating agencies they dislike. During this time Elon is releasing propaganda talking points on his social media most of which are being disproven. Unfortunately the way information moves most people that see those talking points don't even realize they have been debunked.

The band of oligarchs standing behind Trump, the media bending the knee to Trump, not running certain stories, and making insane things sound more sane, should scare you. The US has lived under the thumbs of the robber barons before, and it was very bad for regular people. There is no scenario where the megalomaniacs are coming to help regular people. When they run out of money to extract from the dying middle class they will move onto subjugation and exploitation. Like they have always historically done. Citizens have never got freedom from oligarchs, they had to take it from them.
 
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