I felt they let too much rough play go on in the first half. They started to blow their whistles in the second. They only called 7 fouls in the first half, which is ridiculous considering how physical the game was being played.
Iowa Fans - Rate The Refs
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That poster got it right. Last night in Iowa City the same two teams played the same style of basketball in two halves separated by a 15-minute halftime. But in the first half the refs called SEVEN total fouls while they called THIRTY in the second half! How can that be?
It can be because that was one of the worst officiated games of the season, IMHO. Frankly, I thought the officiating had been very good the last month or so. Then last night happened.
Garza is whistled for a foul when he cleanly blocks a shot. But at the other end he's getting mauled by two or three guys constantly, but no whistle. And to top it off, a Rutgers guy dives for a loose ball, takes Luka's legs out from under him, and it's a jump ball. LOL
So Luka responds by hitting shots from all over the floor and letting the Rutgers bench know about it.
Joe T, and then Kreiner, did all but tackle the Rutgers kid at the end of the first half, yet there was NO whistle. What?! No wonder Fran went ballistic. Good for him. The two points the refs gave Rutgers on that uncontested shot never would have happened if they had called the obvious foul(s), and those two points could have cost Iowa the game.
Last night was a fiasco in terms of "officiating." How anyone can spin it any other way is beyond my ability to comprehend. Basketball is supposed to be a finesse sport, not a physical one. And the rules' emphasis--remember "freedom of movement"?--is supposed to be on removing thuggery from the game. Yes, we're especially looking at you Michigan State, Illinois, and Rutgers--not that you're the only ones.
Bottom line: This Iowa team does what it takes. Instead of curling up into the fetal position as most recent Hawkeye teams have done in the face of rugby tactics, Iowa gave it right back to Rutgers and won the game. This Iowa team will not surrender.
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I missed that one, but Maryland F’d me against N’western in the first half.
Before the Iowa game in the Mich PSU game I watched a guy rocking back and forth picking up both feet several times, with no call. It was about as obvious as the time Lebron went from half court to layup without traveling.
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6/10. Fran deserved his technical and Rutgers deserved two fouls that were not called against IOWA in the 2nd half. That said, the pursuit call that they made on Frederick as he was going for the ball with Harper did not appear to be a foul to me.
Am I the only one who saw the RU player go up in the air, lose the ball mid air, and then kick it out to a teammate?
Toussaint got screwed on a foul call where he slapped the ball away from the RU player and it went out of bounds off of RU. You clearly hear leather being hit and I didn’t see any body contact. Toussaint was less than thrilled with the call.
Toussaint got screwed on a foul call where he slapped the ball away from the RU player and it went out of bounds off of RU. You clearly hear leather being hit and I didn’t see any body contact. Toussaint was less than thrilled with the call.
The call against Rutgers with the defender playing in front of JW in the post was definitely a foul.
Rewatched it. They were both using their bodies, but when the pass went in the Rutgers defender used his arm in JW’s back.
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Rutgers plays very much like MSU and Illinois....Very much hands on, especially around the perimeter. Last season the refs were given the mandate that impeding the progress of the offensive player was to be called a foul. They seem to have changed their minds about that. I guess really all we can hope for is for the game to be called the same at both ends and the same way in both halves. Then, let the players adjust.
Just went to your board for the first time and it sure seems like most of your fans over there think the refs screwed you. The We Didn’t get jobbed thread has some unhappy folks.
If it wasn't college ball it'd be on Shaqtin' A Fool. Was funny to watch for sure.
i thought flopping isn't allowed?
worst part was when they showed the review the damn ref was right in front of them, not sure how he screws that up!! Fran needs to get on them about flopping these next few days
they seem to have their share of "grumpy grandpas"
thought this was a kids post until I saw they had joined 18 years ago lol
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/i-hate-iowa.187443/
yet he was happy with all the non calls vs them in the 1st! "physical b1g bball" "let the foul, let the play"
he rarely bothers me, but he was a total tool last last night!
To me there bottom line is this....
Watch the last 3 minutes of the game. Other than the IDIOTIC 5 second TO, Iowa put on their big boy pants and won the game. Meanwhile RU dribbled....right down their legs. You won't close out many games if you can't hit shots a couple feet from the basket.
Holy shit. A supposed attorney at that. More blaming the refs in that shirt thread too. Is that what everyone does that Iowa beats?they seem to have their share of "grumpy grandpas"
thought this was a kids post until I saw they had joined 18 years ago lol
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/i-hate-iowa.187443/
This^^^^.
When I saw how the first half was going as far a physicality I was quite confident Iowa would lose. The Nebby game comes to mind where Garza was mugged all night long.
They were very fortunate Iowas shooters legs were shot. That might have been a 30 pt win with all the open looks the shooters had.
I thought the same thing. I thought flops like that were supposed to be flagrant fouls this year!
It was pretty obvious that BTN was blowing Rutgers horn all game long and even after the game. I think BTN is really hoping for a Rutgers renaissance for the sake of east coast TV ratings.
Garza goes up for short shot in the first half and is clobbered. Bardo says, I like the no call there. Later in the game a RU player ducks his head and rams into a straight up Garza in order to clear space. Garza doesn’t budge and the RU guy falls back. Bardo’s thoughts...... That’s gotta be called every time. At first I was thinking he was talking about on RU obviously. Nope he goes on to say Garza got away with one there. Bardo is an Illini homer and biased commentator.
And then there was the one where Weezy drove the lane and made the layup. As he shot that layup #15 (I believe it was the center Johnson). went up to block the shot and whacked Weezy in the head with of all things, his forerarm/elbow. No call, and Weezy looked at Joe T and smiled and said, "Am I alright?" Joe T smiled back.
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That was near the start of the second half where the game had tightened up significantly. How anyone could believe there was any consistency in this game is amazing.
At 18:40 of the 2nd half is when this happened. Fran looked at the ref (and I won't say anymore lol). Bardo said Wieskamp "Took a little bump there".
you definitely watch with an iowa slant . once harper gained control of the ball , which he did before he got bumped a foul on our guy had to be called , otherwise a travel has to be called . you thinking it was one of the worst calls of the year shows me your lack of understanding of the rules .
hand checking is a point of emphasis every year . hand checking and hand touching are two different things . hand checking is an attempt to impede someones progress or motion . the act of touching in itself is not a foul .
It appeared to me that the BIG 10 games after the Iowa vs. Michigan disparity in foul shooting refrees were not going to let that happen again. This was evident in the Iowa vs. Rutgers, Michigan vs. Penn State and Michigan St vs. Indiana games games.
Another point was that the TV announcers in the Iowa vs. Rutgers pointed out that one of the referees was normally an SEC Ref. which they opined was not been officiating BIG 10 games until that night.
The only reason a foul or a travel would have been called is because Harper flopped like a NBA player. Sorry but CJF isn’t going to send Harper flying like that. I suggest you watch again and see the flop for yourself. Did they bump yes but not a foul. He gain possession and should have been play on.
What do you think Rutgers fans thought when Garza made a bucket early in the game and the play by play guy goes "Garza...thought he got fouled, probably did"?
Iowa fans are insufferable sometimes. The world is not out to get you, I promise. Try watching through a non-black/gold lens once in a while and you'll see what I mean.
Rutgers shot 21 FT's. Iowa shot 25, including two at the end where they intentionally fouled McCaffery to stop the clock. Seeing as how we're the home team, I wouldn't call that a huge disparity. They had their chances to win the game. They didn't. Live with it.
Green is bad. Other than the guy right there at the end of half ignoring Iowa’s obvious attempts to use its fouls to give, pretty solidly reffed game.
Basketball is the toughest sporting event in the world to officiate. I was a High School Official for years and it wasn't strange to have both coaches complain that we favored the other team. Basketball requires hundreds of split second decisions that can go either way.. Calls usually even out and believe me the ref isn't trying to screw anyone. As I watch games on TV now I think the replay is bad for the game. It slows it down to the point of loosing interest and many of the reruns are still questionable.
Wrong Ref called the foul on JT. He could not have seen if it was a foul or not from his place on the court. The ref under the hoop had the look and did not make the call.
Agreed, they both were going for the ball and had a reasonable chance at it. No one gained an advantage in the action. Harper would have been able to maintain ball and balance if he tried. He didn't.
You can't reasonably comment on other peoples mentality or motives.
I know for a fact some HS Refs from my kids days is sports were biased and calling against one aide or another because they admitted to doing it.
Agree. It's not the refs' jobs to make sure that the teams shoot equal number of FT's or have equal number of fouls. Sometimes one team fouls more than the other. The game was called differently in the second half, both ways. I doubt Iowa wins if they just let 'em play like they did in the first half. Iowa opponents probably think Garza should be called for more offensive fouls as his elbows always seem to be hitting people. Rutgers plays tight defense, it's not a real surprise they do better at home. Every team is better at home, but their style of defense means they can really lock in on teams at home.
The officiating was about typical for the B!G. Home team had a little advantage.
Missing the three intentional fouls on the guy with the ball had to be a decision to let Rutgers get a shot off no matter the play.
The T in the tunnel was pretty thin skinned.
You don't get the best officials every night. Cleaning up this grabbing snatching and pushing play that an above poster described, which really helps MSU and Wisconsin (Rutgers is a new comer). A relatively non physical team like Iowa should be shooting around 40 free throws in the Buck and Sparty games-if it were called even close to square. That's the biggest problem the Big Ten has in BBall.
The Haves get an officiating advantage, always has been and always will be. If the Big Ten could focus on trimming back the thuggish play you get from Wisconsin and MSU (primarily) then a little integrity might be restored. Watch the replay of our home game with Sparty last year. Sparty got four offensive rebounds on a series. They were all over the Hawks backs, hacking at the ball-arms down so it looks like a foul and almost always get called-and finally a guard ran down the baseline and pushed three different Hawks, looked like a WR blocking, to get the ball. Even papabeef would have a hard time explaining that pushing a guy in the back in the open court shouldn't be called. The question is, when the supervisors are watching film, what are they saying?
Missing the three intentional fouls on the guy with the ball had to be a decision to let Rutgers get a shot off no matter the play.
The T in the tunnel was pretty thin skinned.
You don't get the best officials every night. Cleaning up this grabbing snatching and pushing play that an above poster described, which really helps MSU and Wisconsin (Rutgers is a new comer). A relatively non physical team like Iowa should be shooting around 40 free throws in the Buck and Sparty games-if it were called even close to square. That's the biggest problem the Big Ten has in BBall.
The Haves get an officiating advantage, always has been and always will be. If the Big Ten could focus on trimming back the thuggish play you get from Wisconsin and MSU (primarily) then a little integrity might be restored. Watch the replay of our home game with Sparty last year. Sparty got four offensive rebounds on a series. They were all over the Hawks backs, hacking at the ball-arms down so it looks like a foul and almost always get called-and finally a guard ran down the baseline and pushed three different Hawks, looked like a WR blocking, to get the ball. Even papabeef would have a hard time explaining that pushing a guy in the back in the open court shouldn't be called. The question is, when the supervisors are watching film, what are they saying?
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