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Iowa has 8th youngest roster out of 351 teams

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Ken Pomeroy has a statistic on his website called ‘experience’ where he takes the ages of every roster in college basketball and adds them together to arrive at a number, and then ranks them in ‘experience’.

A freshman coming in has zero experience. A sophomore would have one year, a junior two years and a senior three years. So theoretically, the highest experience rating a team could have would be 3.0. Anything below an average of 1 would mean your team is HEAVY on freshmen with very little juniors or seniors…which is where Iowa is.

Pomeroy has Iowa’s experience total at 0.90, leaving them as the 344th ‘most experienced’ team in college basketball, out of 351 teams. That also means they are the 8th youngest/least experienced team in all of college basketball. Only Washington and Oregon State are younger/less experienced than Iowa among Power Five conferences. Washington is 9-14 overall in the PAC12 (2-9 in conference play) and Oregon State is 4-20 overall, 0-11 in PAC12 conference play.

Pomeroy also ranks the PAC12 as the ‘Sixth Best’ conference this year, with the Big 12 first, followed by the ACC, Big East and then Big Ten.
 
While I'm guessing the Kentucky / Duke / UNC / Kansas scores never get that high due to a lot of early departures for the pros, I am very encouraged by what this means for Iowa's future. I don't see any of these youngsters being lottery picks and if we're honest probably not many will play pro ball of any kind. So, as long as they stick together and keep working / learning, I could see a very smart and experienced team in 2-3 years' time. I really think Iowa will be a tough out in seasons to come.
 
Ken Pomeroy has a statistic on his website called ‘experience’ where he takes the ages of every roster in college basketball and adds them together to arrive at a number, and then ranks them in ‘experience’.

A freshman coming in has zero experience. A sophomore would have one year, a junior two years and a senior three years. So theoretically, the highest experience rating a team could have would be 3.0. Anything below an average of 1 would mean your team is HEAVY on freshmen with very little juniors or seniors…which is where Iowa is.

Pomeroy has Iowa’s experience total at 0.90, leaving them as the 344th ‘most experienced’ team in college basketball, out of 351 teams. That also means they are the 8th youngest/least experienced team in all of college basketball. Only Washington and Oregon State are younger/less experienced than Iowa among Power Five conferences. Washington is 9-14 overall in the PAC12 (2-9 in conference play) and Oregon State is 4-20 overall, 0-11 in PAC12 conference play.

Pomeroy also ranks the PAC12 as the ‘Sixth Best’ conference this year, with the Big 12 first, followed by the ACC, Big East and then Big Ten.
What does he have Virginia as? There was a discussion on this site when Iowa played them that the 2 teams were pretty equal when it came to experience. Thanks!
 
Ken Pomeroy has a statistic on his website called ‘experience’ where he takes the ages of every roster in college basketball and adds them together to arrive at a number, and then ranks them in ‘experience’.

A freshman coming in has zero experience. A sophomore would have one year, a junior two years and a senior three years. So theoretically, the highest experience rating a team could have would be 3.0. Anything below an average of 1 would mean your team is HEAVY on freshmen with very little juniors or seniors…which is where Iowa is.

Pomeroy has Iowa’s experience total at 0.90, leaving them as the 344th ‘most experienced’ team in college basketball, out of 351 teams. That also means they are the 8th youngest/least experienced team in all of college basketball. Only Washington and Oregon State are younger/less experienced than Iowa among Power Five conferences. Washington is 9-14 overall in the PAC12 (2-9 in conference play) and Oregon State is 4-20 overall, 0-11 in PAC12 conference play.

Pomeroy also ranks the PAC12 as the ‘Sixth Best’ conference this year, with the Big 12 first, followed by the ACC, Big East and then Big Ten.


I heard this the other day on the radio. I knew we were young, but dang! I think that Moss & Baer taking a redshirt helps significantly in that stat. Jones getting an extra year(whether he takes it or not) helps too.

We are crazy young. Especially for playing as well as we are. These guys are just so fun to watch... The future looks bright! Love it!
 
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Ken Pomeroy has a statistic on his website called ‘experience’ where he takes the ages of every roster in college basketball and adds them together to arrive at a number, and then ranks them in ‘experience’.

A freshman coming in has zero experience. A sophomore would have one year, a junior two years and a senior three years. So theoretically, the highest experience rating a team could have would be 3.0. Anything below an average of 1 would mean your team is HEAVY on freshmen with very little juniors or seniors…which is where Iowa is.

Pomeroy has Iowa’s experience total at 0.90, leaving them as the 344th ‘most experienced’ team in college basketball, out of 351 teams. That also means they are the 8th youngest/least experienced team in all of college basketball. Only Washington and Oregon State are younger/less experienced than Iowa among Power Five conferences. Washington is 9-14 overall in the PAC12 (2-9 in conference play) and Oregon State is 4-20 overall, 0-11 in PAC12 conference play.

Pomeroy also ranks the PAC12 as the ‘Sixth Best’ conference this year, with the Big 12 first, followed by the ACC, Big East and then Big Ten.


The ACC is the best conferance this year and it's not even close.
The Big12 has been best or 2nd best last 4 years but this year there is 3 very good teams. 3 decent teams, 4 really bad teams. I would rank PAC12 2nd, then the big12 3rd.
 
The ACC is the best conferance this year and it's not even close.
The Big12 has been best or 2nd best last 4 years but this year there is 3 very good teams. 3 decent teams, 4 really bad teams. I would rank PAC12 2nd, then the big12 3rd.


Kenpom has it as...

B12
ACC
Big East
B1G
SEC
P12
AAC
A10
 
While I'm guessing the Kentucky / Duke / UNC / Kansas scores never get that high due to a lot of early departures for the pros, I am very encouraged by what this means for Iowa's future. I don't see any of these youngsters being lottery picks and if we're honest probably not many will play pro ball of any kind. So, as long as they stick together and keep working / learning, I could see a very smart and experienced team in 2-3 years' time. I really think Iowa will be a tough out in seasons to come.

the future does look bright; we know we can play without Jok and when have 3 studs coming in next year
 
The ACC is the best conferance this year and it's not even close.
The Big12 has been best or 2nd best last 4 years but this year there is 3 very good teams. 3 decent teams, 4 really bad teams. I would rank PAC12 2nd, then the big12 3rd.
I'm curious as to how you would measure which conference is the best. Would you say it's the strength of the top teams? How many teams make the tournament? The strength of the median team? Average team? Strength of the bottom teams (hardest schedule)? Because I'm not sure how I see the Pac 12 being better than the Big 12 in any of those categories.

Moreover, I'm curious as to which four teams are "really bad" in the Big 12? I assume you'd include Oklahoma and Texas... who else? Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and TCU are all projected in the tournament and have fairly strong statistical profiles and records. Texas Tech would be one, I guess? But even they have KenPom/Sagarin ranks in the 40s, an RPI of around 90 and are generally considered a bubble team (though currently on the outside looking in). Plus, the Pac 12 would have six teams worse than the worst team in the Big 12 according to KenPom, four according to Sagarin, two according to RPI.

I really don't mean to be a Big 12 apologist, but the idea of ranking the Pac 12 above them seems absurd to me. Perhaps I'm missing something, though. Personally, I see three tiers of major conferences with a small gap between tiers 1 and 2 and a larger gap between tiers 2 and 3:

ACC & Big 12
Big East & Big Ten
Pac 12 & SEC
 
I'm not sure how good Kansas State is? I know they had a bunch of really close losses early on, but they haven't been doing that well of late. Perhaps it is just they're playing a bunch of tough B12 teams, but there are their last 5 games:

lost at ISU
lost at Tennessee
lost vs TCU
won at Baylor (a huge win, I know, I know, #2 Baylor)
lost vs Kansas

They have an RPI of 38 with a game @ #13 WVU coming up that could improve it and lock them into the tourney. Otherwise, they play unranked teams the rest of the way. A few losses and I could see K-State not making it. Maybe that's crazy talk, I don't know.
 
I'm not sure how good Kansas State is? I know they had a bunch of really close losses early on, but they haven't been doing that well of late. Perhaps it is just they're playing a bunch of tough B12 teams, but there are their last 5 games:

lost at ISU
lost at Tennessee
lost vs TCU
won at Baylor (a huge win, I know, I know, #2 Baylor)
lost vs Kansas

They have an RPI of 38 with a game @ #13 WVU coming up that could improve it and lock them into the tourney. Otherwise, they play unranked teams the rest of the way. A few losses and I could see K-State not making it. Maybe that's crazy talk, I don't know.

That's fair. I think any team in the Big 12 (with the exceptions of KU, WV, and Baylor) could at least semi-realistically play themselves out of the tournament in the next few weeks. Of course, that's probably true for all but about 15-20 teams in the country right now.

K-State had a really easy non-conference, but avoided bad losses - the only two coming by one point in a neutral site game against Maryland and an away loss against Tennessee which doesn't look as good. They are getting a lot of credit for beating West Virginia at home, Baylor on the road, and two close losses against KU. I agree with you that another win against WV would do a lot to cement their tourney status, otherwise they will probably need to win at least four or five more regular season games.
 
The ACC is the best conferance this year and it's not even close.
The Big12 has been best or 2nd best last 4 years but this year there is 3 very good teams. 3 decent teams, 4 really bad teams. I would rank PAC12 2nd, then the big12 3rd.

The Big 12 is currently projected to ha e 7 of 10 teams make the tournament. Yet the Big 12 has 4 really bad teams? Please do explain...
 
Iowa's success from Lute to Dr. Davis was predicated on getting good players that would stay eligible and on campus. They would grow into being very good players junior senior years.

McC has mostly done that job. While not everyone is a star no one on the playing roster has shown themselves incapable of positive contribution at the P5 level. The players develop under this staff. Now our floor is higher but still, what appears to have been the quirky results of a couple of classes, has given the Hawks a true rebuilding season.

But the ceiling looks pretty high. This is the best talent, not yet best players, but the best talent that has been concentrated in one class in a long time.

Bohannon is already much better at almost every part of the offensive game than was Mikey G. There's no reason to think Bohannon won't improve on his weaknesses while also building on the strengths.

Moss is taller and more athletic than AC. Moss works hard on defense and he's learning. Shown big offensive upside. Jury's out on Dailey, just too small of a playing sample to really predict his future.

Cook and Pemsyl and even Kreiner have shown better offensive ability than Woody and Uthoff (comparing F to So seasons). Ute was weak inside until his senior season. Can't shoot threes like Ute but look much stronger around the basket. Pemsyl is leading the conference in field goal percentage. That is a strong foundation upon which to build for the next three seasons.
 
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