Iowa Poll: Over half favor legalizing recreational pot
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You're a Dowling guy right? Ever hear of the UNI Dome? I bring that up mainly because I'm not up to date on my Cedar Valley.
those are fighting words, trhs for for life.
but yes I’ve been to the uni dome.
NE Iowa is my happy place. I guess if you see a man bun up there in the summer there is an excellent chance it is me.
I am, sorry...there are consequences here and I don't think they have been looked at seriously.....because they don't "feel good." If MJ is gonna "legalized" (or is it "decriminlized"...are there going to be any consequences for those who use, are impaired and injure/damage others? Are the consequences limited to just the user or does the retailer share liability, like dram shop laws?
Yes I am old....but I believe that ?"growing old should" be the option all Iowans enjoy...and regulating and enforcing laws about using MJ (or any controlled drug) helps ensure this.
joel, what happens to people if they are currently impaired from marijuana or are you one of these people that think people aren’t using currently because its illegal.
at any rate, Kims more interested in supressing voting rights than actually be a republican that is about small government and personal freedom
I figured you'd have personalized Hawk plates that say Moral. If I see anyone camping, making a mayo turkey in a wave, I know I'm safe to stop for a visit.
Spoiler alert, those people are already on the road.
I would agree with this unless the fashion has changed in the last 10 years.
I considered it, they were even available. I decided to stay anonymous.
Currently, unless they are using for medicinal reasons, these folks are still breaking the law and there are consequences for their actions.......Once "legalize" these sanctions will be gotten rid of......As I said, there is a downside to legalization of MJ....just like there is a downside to any issue.....Consequences need to be considered and acted upon BEFORE legalization occurs. Isnt that only logical?
CYUNVME was also available. Considered tossing it on my 15 year old Jeep.
I know someone who has "JOELBC1" and drives it with pride. (damn, I miss my "smiley" emojee!)
Your issue was impairment, now you are moving the goalpost to “breaking the law”.
“breaking the law” aside, how do law enforcement officers handle current impairement from marijuana or are you implying it doesn’t happen or that doesn’t count because “breaking the law”. You are naieve if you think its currently not happening
What ever method being used is very subjective.....no "breathelizer" or blood test standards.....You gotta get something that is relatively standardized and easy to enforce, Is the standard "falling down stoned" ?? You may not have liked my "breaking the law" reference, but at what point is their liability and consequences? These need to be codified first....not later.
I would imagine a field sobriety test would be sufficient until a more official test is available. @Hawkman98 can maybe shed some light on it.
but you wouldn’t think there would be laws regarding public intox, driving while impaired and standards regarding how its handled in the field.
"Subjective tests" in a courtroom and with a good attorney don't mean shit. Suddenly the guy or gal that was so inebriated they could stand on their own, now has a bad back or was suffering from an inner ear infection.....You need standards IN PLACE before any legalization can occur. Without standards, you can have no regulation.
It’s easier to grow the substance of your choice. ‘Shrooms for me. I look at it as a fun science project.
To be honest that’s my one hesitation on legalizing drugs is the possibility of the increase in people operating while intoxicated. There are additional classes and testing you can attend to help detect someone who’s under the influence of drugs. I have taken those classes and arrest a lot of people for driving while drugged, but I’m sure I’m missing way more than I catch. With alcohol it’s easier to detect the smell and we have devices that can tell us immediately how much alcohol in your system. With drugs, if you don’t have a driving case and they weren’t smoking in the vehicle, they’re probably getting away with it. If I have reason to believe someone is under the influence, my testing will help determine that.
With proven field sobriety test, statements made and the officers testimony on the indicators they saw, there is no issues in court. I’ve never lost one.
i just did a quick google and found This. I guess the next step if these were readily available would be able to set a legal limit of impairement unless you can do a failed sobriety text along with one of those detecting THC to be enough until a level is set
Ya I’ve seen those. That would definitely be a helpful tool to have.
7 years ago, I was on a jury here in Polk Co. that allowed a defendant to walk because the only evidence the County Atty had was "an officer's statement"...there was no BAC test given for some reason....And the officer swore the guy failed every field test given.....The guy was probably legally drunk....but there was no proof he was.....took the jury about 45 minutes to verdict....The reason he walked was by consensus , no "proof " the guy was legally intoxed.
Sounds like a shitty cop and the guy should have walked. I'm saying if a cops does everything he/she should do to build a proper case, there most likely won't be a problem and will result in a conviction.
Thats right...and that pretty much requires a valid BAC result of over 08. :I think"...It appeared"....I smelled on his breathe" arent enough any more. I have worked wit folks that "walked" because a BAC test was invalidated due to a procedural mistake too.....
sounds more like a shitty jury to me. They chose not to believe the testimony of a cop and instead took the word of a drunk.
You need evidence, not opinion. BAC are a pretty low standard in today’s World and damning as evidence. The punishment for DD is pretty substantial ( it should be) and it is $$$$. It’s not too much to ask LEO to do it right.
the police officer’s testimony and written reports are evidence. In fact they are specifically mentioned in the federal rules as types of evidence.
When you see cops testimony and written reports contradicted by video evidence, does it give you any pause, or simply not register?
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It will become a case of haves and have nots. Wealthier, middle and upper middle class Iowans will switch to dispensaries, with more selection and consistency of quality.
Lower class and poor Iowans will continue to use the black market and will have cheaper, but less diverse options for cannabis and will also continue to risk fines and small jail time.
The legal market in other states has led to more choices in the black market.
Even with medical in FL the black market has plenty of consumer choices from Colorado.
