Iowa Senate approves traffic camera regulations
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So you are saying defund the police . . . really????
You have no idea how hard it is to cut the services that are effectively mandated. Ask Hawkman, and most of those services are built in with no real ability to cut. You going to cut the courthouse?? You going to cut City Hall??? What are you going to cut?? The city municipalities are getting a reduction in tax money yet expected to continue to provide services in the inflation environment that you describe. Sounds like it will be successful, or it was a shitty tax plan that will be killing us for years.
I have no doubt Kimmie will go down as one of the worst governors of Iowa.
As long as “locals” ain’t paying…. Who cares, right?
This is the philosophy behind “hotel/motel taxes” abs car rental “franchise fees”..taking money from outsiders and converting it to local use. Every here anyone say “cancel the vacation, the hotel/motel tax is too high or the tax in the rental car is a deal breaker?”
That's what I did. Oelwein, West Union, Fayette, and the rest of the HWY150 gang don't see my millions anymore. New Hampton and HWY63 say thank you!
Isn’t one if the first things a “family” might consider is bringing MORE revenue into the home? Taking on extra jobs, a parttime job? Maybe it’s time to figure out a tax scheme in Iowa that will adequately provide for everyone….just not the well to do?
Inflation is a symptom of the disease, not the disease. Spending $$ on infrastructure and. ASICS (education, job training) is always money well spent over the long haul. Selfishness and greed is what gas lead us to where we are today.
@Hawki97 I believe we have the answer.
WOI 5 just interviewed the chief in Prairie City. According to the segment from the way he reads the bill it will have only a small impact on them because only one of their speed cams is a mobile unit.
So apparently the other 3 fixed cams will be allowed.
Another change is they will now charge low end offenders $75 instead of $100.
So unless the DOT steps in and doesn't approve the 3 fixed cams, then very little will change.
1040 WHO just had a lawmaker on who claimed that the DOT will disapprove a number of the cameras so there may still be a positive outcome on that end. So maybe they will take care of Praire City's operation.
I wish I would have seen this thread earlier because I do feel compelled to jump in and have a feeling my thoughts have already been stated.
I will say that I can’t stand these cameras. But I do support their purpose. Ive heard/read many people in law enforcement that are in favor of them. They can feee up time for actual police work. Why not back the blue here?
To those that say they are a money grab, I don’t know if you are defending your driving or maybe visitors that are taken off guard. I’m ok with the revenue coming in. Don’t like it? Then obey the limit. It’s the law. All of us have gotten used to breaking that law when we can get away with it (I did it today). Don’t like laws? Get in line. Why the **** have laws anyway?
This debate is particularly fun because I see really mad people on both sides of the political spectrum taking sides together. Pretty cool to see (as long as they agree with me).
I guess I just don’t understand why it feels like a right to break the law as long as no one is watching. I get the fear of cameras being so invasive in our lives. That’s probably more of my beef. But this one seems harmless. My license plate shows up on 100’s of cameras a day so I’m going to have a hard time getting away with the big heist I’ve been planning for 20 years. Damn it.
We drove in Germany last year and there are cameras on cars (tracking speed) every where. Across the entire country. Driving was a joy. When I could I lit it up to 125mph and it was clearly marked where that was ok (their roads and infrastructure made that enjoyable but that’s a different topic).
As a counter point, my wife (no pics)! Is a lead foot and hates this camera shit (although she did still appreciate the system of well marked limits or no limits in Germany).
I will say that I can’t stand these cameras. But I do support their purpose. Ive heard/read many people in law enforcement that are in favor of them. They can feee up time for actual police work. Why not back the blue here?
To those that say they are a money grab, I don’t know if you are defending your driving or maybe visitors that are taken off guard. I’m ok with the revenue coming in. Don’t like it? Then obey the limit. It’s the law. All of us have gotten used to breaking that law when we can get away with it (I did it today). Don’t like laws? Get in line. Why the **** have laws anyway?
This debate is particularly fun because I see really mad people on both sides of the political spectrum taking sides together. Pretty cool to see (as long as they agree with me).
I guess I just don’t understand why it feels like a right to break the law as long as no one is watching. I get the fear of cameras being so invasive in our lives. That’s probably more of my beef. But this one seems harmless. My license plate shows up on 100’s of cameras a day so I’m going to have a hard time getting away with the big heist I’ve been planning for 20 years. Damn it.
We drove in Germany last year and there are cameras on cars (tracking speed) every where. Across the entire country. Driving was a joy. When I could I lit it up to 125mph and it was clearly marked where that was ok (their roads and infrastructure made that enjoyable but that’s a different topic).
As a counter point, my wife (no pics)! Is a lead foot and hates this camera shit (although she did still appreciate the system of well marked limits or no limits in Germany).
You're making statements that just aren't factual. As a city, we were told not to budget for any fine money. Whatever you get you get. As a city, we decided to keep all the fine money for the year and whatever is available come budget time, we will decide how to use that money at that time. No programs are funded strictly by the fine revenue. The cameras are in 25mph zones, so no way to lower them, nor would we want to. Also, the camera company doesn't put cameras in areas that don't have speeding issues. If their speed study shows there is not a speed problem they aren't going to spend the money to install cameras.
That is what we were told by the representative who has been working on the bill in Des Moines.
A town that has cameras in my general area heard the same thing. People saying they will no longer go to their town because of the cameras. The first year after the cameras were installed that town's local option sales tax went up 11%Not true in my case. I will not traverse the traffic camera gauntlet that is HWY150 after a total bullshit one I got (long story linked below) in Oelwein. Plenty of ways to get to SE Minnesota without that BS. I drive to that area a lot and spend along the way in multiple towns. Now I just hit HWY63 and just have to double check in Chester.
Also, I'm not a speeder generally (beyond 5-7mph). Only one officer given ticket in my life. However, as evidenced by my boycott of HWY150, I am one hard headed vindictive son of a bitch when something I deem stupid comes to fruition.
KCCI Investigates: Small Iowa town makes millions on speed camera tickets
Prairie City has made $1.72 million in the fiscal year 2022.iowa.forums.rivals.com
Well, that's two of us!
Good for them. Doesn’t change my post as it was only about my stubborn ass. Oelwein can phuck right off and won’t be seeing me in the future unless I absolutely have to go there.
LOL. Better get your road map out and start plotting the county roads.
In addition to the one already in Chester, "there's talk of one going up on Highway 63 in Howard County".
Speed cameras up in Charles City
Charles City Police Department say speed cameras will be up for the next 30 days. Anyone caught going ten miles per hour or more above the speed limit will be slapped with a warning or a fine.
www.kaaltv.com
LOL. Better get your road map out and start plotting the county roads.
In addition to the one already in Chester, "there's talk of one going up on Highway 63 in Howard County".
Speed cameras up in Charles City
Charles City Police Department say speed cameras will be up for the next 30 days. Anyone caught going ten miles per hour or more above the speed limit will be slapped with a warning or a fine.
Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
Well you will want to avoid Hwy. 63 too then because there will be cameras along there as well. Watch out for Chester I hear their cameras make a killing.
Congrats! You have read “1984”…..Presently the barbarians at the door are much less subtle…. The one’s I worry about recently tried to overthrow this nation’s Constitution and are actively supporting a man who has promised America, if elected he will continue to go down this road…I am not worried about having someone monitor my speed electronically.
I'm well aware of Chester. It blows like they all do but it's not as bullshit as the one in Oelwien. As far as more going up - dying shithole Ioway gonna dying shithole Ioway I guess.
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How about your computer? Because with thinking like yours, that's the future of this county.
Maybe they shouldn’t be allowed unless there has been a certain amount of accidents in that are attributed solely to excessive speed.
After all it’s about safety and not revenue.
Most of the ones I see are in spots where the speed limit should be higher.
After all it’s about safety and not revenue.
Most of the ones I see are in spots where the speed limit should be higher.
Precisely. In the case of Webster City, they are issuing more than $1 million worth of tickets in just a few months for a stretch of highway that hasn't seen a crash in at least five years. I completely understand having these in some areas, like the ones along 380 in CR or on 235 in DSM, or other places that have proven to be prone to crashes and pose a clear safety threat. That's not what's happening, though. These are being installed in certain locales simply to maximize profits for municipalities under the guise of safety.
The Charles city exit on 218 is prime example about it having zero to do with safety and all about money. 4 lane road, wide enough to be a six lane road with zero houses and they stick speed cameras on it and set the speed limit stupid low.
I can understand Red light cameras and speed cameras in school zones to be used during school hours.
These cameras are not ticketing drivers, they are ticketing the owner of the car. Which is why this shit shouldn’t be legal in the first place.
I can understand Red light cameras and speed cameras in school zones to be used during school hours.
These cameras are not ticketing drivers, they are ticketing the owner of the car. Which is why this shit shouldn’t be legal in the first place.
The practice of ticketing cars not drivers has been going on your entire life in every city that you have ever lived in. I have never known anyone that has received a parking ticket handed to them in person. It goes on the car. Doesn't matter that your friend borrowed your car and parked illegally. You're still getting the bill. And you should because it's YOUR car.
Luckily the radar can’t even detect me or I’d be screwed.
A few days back one of those friendly road side radars registered my speed.
Oh sure sure. The company that wants to sell the locality speed cameras and create am ongoing cash flow has convinced a local leader using a pitch on safety that will also coincidentally create a cash flow for the town.
Seems like a great idea.
He didn't say violators were reduced by 90%. He said the camera company claimed to expect a 90% reduction in violations. I asked him if he received any proof to back that claim and he didn’t respond.
It is hilarious circular reasoning isn't it? We need to install cameras because so many people are speeding and causing death and destruction but we also at the exact time the cameras were installed lowered the speed limit to what 85 percent of the people drive. Cedar Rapids lowered their speed limit on the s curve through downtown at the same time cameras were installed. They of course point to their own statistics which no one else has to the cameras as a reason crashes are down due to cameras. No mention or course that they lowered the speed limit. They got smacked around on a lawsuit a while back because they didn't follow the law on providing notice to drivers of an upcoming lowered speed limit. Their signs were too close. Government can break the law to enforce the law.
I'm curious why these same companies decrease the time on yellow lights on red light cameras. Is that safety as well? Funny how they don't publish the statistics on how many tickets are issued for turning right on red, how many intersections with these red light cameras now have a no turn on red regulation, and how much rear end accidents increased at these intersections.
If a company is willing to manipulate red light cameras and intersections what is stopping them from simply issuing a ticket on speed cameras for a certain percentage of cars regardless of actual speed? Good luck fighting one of these tickets.
UCI banned the Superman. If the cameras have AI you might get a ticket for that.Luckily the radar can’t even detect me or I’d be screwed.
Between that and the supertuck…some of the most boring decisions they’ve made. Downhill is where it’s at.
Are you seriously asking the difference between a sales pitch and a demonstrable fact?
Honestly I misunderstood it. Of course there is a difference. I’m guessing they had data to back it up.
