Iowa St is going to be in the CFB playoffs

[thewop]

B12 is proving to be a garbage conference from top to bottom compared to SEC and B1G.

This. They beat Iowa on a field goal after Iowa played it's worst half of football all year. That game wouldn't be close now.

They're going to have to win the B12 championship game to make it, and if they do they'll be absolutely humiliated in a 1st round playoff game.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Actually I think that’s the upside to current environment for Big XII. They don’t have to compete with the big dogs to get into playoff but they have a path to get in.

Sure, Iowa is printing money in Big Ten but they really have no shot at playoff. They can print shirts that say “$100 million in Revenue” if people get off on that. The murderers row of teams Iowa would need to beat to make playoff would be crazy. This year might be the easiest schedule they will see for a decade.

Totally agree.

For me, I would prefer it that way. I would not want to see Iowa get into the CFP unless they had a legitimately good team, meaning a complete team. Give me an Iowa team with the 2002 offense and 2022 defense and I will put them up against anyone—at the very least they would be competitive and in every game.

Otherwise, you would just be watching another Stanford v Iowa style Rose Bowl. I’ll pass.

 

[millah_22]

Actually I think that’s the upside to current environment for Big XII. They don’t have to compete with the big dogs to get into playoff but they have a path to get in.

Sure, Iowa is printing money in Big Ten but they really have no shot at playoff. They can print shirts that say “$100 million in Revenue” if people get off on that. The murderers row of teams Iowa would need to beat to make playoff would be crazy. This year might be the easiest schedule they will see for a decade.

Basically need to avoid the big dogs and if they do draw one it needs to be a down year for them. Iowa avoided most but got OSU this year, but if they avoided Oregon, USC, Penn Sate, and OSU and drew Michigan instead, a scenario like that would be Iowa's best shot at the BTCCG.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

This. They beat Iowa on a field goal after Iowa played it's worst half of football all year. That game wouldn't be close now.

They're going to have to win the B12 championship game to make it, and if they do they'll be absolutely humiliated in a 1st round playoff game.

If Iowa played Iowa State the way they played Washington yesterday, you’re right.

 

[millah_22]

Totally agree.

For me, I would prefer it that way. I would not want to see Iowa get into the CFP unless they had a legitimately good team, meaning a complete team. Give me an Iowa team with the 2002 offense and 2022 defense and I will put them up against anyone—at the very least they would be competitive and in every game.

Otherwise, you would just be watching another Stanford v Iowa style Rose Bowl. I’ll pass.

If Iowa is in the CFP (elite team or not) it means they had a real good year. I'd take a real good year with a bad loss in the CFP than a shit year, not get there at all and prob still take a bad loss in the Citrus or Outback.

 

[gohawks50]

As an FSU fan I am old enough to remember the committee leave out an undefeated FSU and ACC conference champion out so I may be a tad bias when it comes to SEC and ESPN influence on the committee. Between ESPN and the SEC fluffers you should just earmark and expect 4 SEC teams every playoff. Rest of football will get the other 8 but BIG is also locking down 3-4 spots per year too. There will be tons of 2 loss teams from SEC and BIG getting in over 1 loss teams from the other 80 something teams every single year.

The rankings for the playoff should be strictly computer or AI based. Humans are too influenced by names, conferences, and traditions. Just look how some teams barely drop in the rankings even when they are beaten by unranked teams like Northern Illinois and Vanderbilt.

 

[millah_22]

The rankings for the playoff should be strictly computer or AI based. Humans are too influenced by names, conferences, and traditions. Just look how some teams barely drop in the rankings even when they are beaten by unranked teams like Northern Illinois and Vanderbilt.

I agree. I think the BCS did a relatively good job at sorting out the strongest teams, but using the rankings to choose the top 2 left a bad taste for the #3 team. Especially if it chose a 1-loss team at #2 over another equal 1-loss team, or if there were 3 or more undefeated teams.

Typically the committee got it right until last year when they made it subjective about the QB and if you take 1 you also have to take the team that beat them. Last year's simulated BCS rankings before bowls was 1. Michigan, 2. UW, 3. Alabama, 4. FSU and that's how it should have been.

Now that there are 12, use the BCS-type polls to sort out the CFP rankings and seed accordingly. No real need for a committee other than adding drama for clicks and views.

 

[Chuck C]

I hope either Army or Navy beat Notre Dame and make the playoffs.

 

[jonesy5960]

Really, because all I see on this board is the Big 12 sucks and doesn’t have any good teams.

They have one good team, and they couldn't even beat Iowa. Oh, wait....

 

[SI_NYC]

Iowa State has more competitive football and men’s basketball right now. Iowa has CC

If Iowa played ISU 10 times, I think Iowa wins 8 or 9 of the games.

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

Iowa fans need to prepare themselves not only for ISU being in the playoffs, but ISU getting a home game or being a top four seed. It really sucks because their win over Iowa catapulted them. That kicker they have is 8-11 on FG on the year including 2-5 from 40-49. He's naturally 1-1 from 50+ which is against Iowa. They just got lucky. Iowa should have put it away when they had a chance, and not allowed luck to play a part.

 

[thewop]

If Iowa played Iowa State the way they played Washington yesterday, you’re right.

It's also true that the B12 gives teams a great chance at making the playoffs without having to be in the upper echelon of teams. Downside is it's likely a 1 bid league, where Iowa could conceivably finish 4th and still make the playoffs (though not with a loss to ISU).

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

The rankings for the playoff should be strictly computer or AI based. Humans are too influenced by names, conferences, and traditions. Just look how some teams barely drop in the rankings even when they are beaten by unranked teams like Northern Illinois and Vanderbilt.

It's criminal where ND is in the rankings, and look at their schedule. Iowa has lost to two top ten teams, and they can't sniff the rankings now.

 

[SalAunese]

BYU will win the Big 12

 

[millah_22]

It's criminal where ND is in the rankings, and look at their schedule. Iowa has lost to two top ten teams, and they can't sniff the rankings now.

Feels a little high but they have two top 20 wins and 1 was on the road at an SEC school. There are also like 4 or 5 other 4-1 schools ahead of them, so I don't think it's all that bad.

 

[gohawks50]

Feels a little high but they have two top 20 wins and 1 was on the road at an SEC school. There are also like 4 or 5 other 4-1 schools ahead of them, so I don't think it's all that bad.

It might not be, but imagine a team like Minnesota with the same schedule losing to team like Northern Illinois. They might be ranked by now, but it would be in the 15 to 20 range not just outside the top ten like Notre Dame.

 

[millah_22]

It might not be, but imagine a team like Minnesota with the same schedule losing to team like Northern Illinois. They might be ranked by now, but it would be in the 15 to 20 range not just outside the top ten like Notre Dame.

It really is hard to ignore how bad that loss was.

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

Feels a little high but they have two top 20 wins and 1 was on the road at an SEC school. There are also like 4 or 5 other 4-1 schools ahead of them, so I don't think it's all that bad.

If Iowa lost to NIU they'd have fallen completely out of the rankings.

 

[gohawks50]

If Iowa lost to NIU they'd have fallen completely out of the rankings.

Iowa lost to the current number 12 team in the nation and fell out of the rankings.

 

[millah_22]

If Iowa lost to NIU they'd have fallen completely out of the rankings.

Maybe. If Iowa had a top 20 road SEC win things may be different.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Sounds like you could become a fan. You have been known to change sides on occasion

I’m a fan of good QB play and have to suffer through Iowa QBing since Stanley left. If ISU can figure it out, Iowa should be able to figure it out.

 

[swagsurfer02]

If a team doesnt play one of 5-6 teams in the country it’s logical to question how good they are.

Iowa had one of those teams on their schedule and got smoked.

Iowa State has zero. There is a logical reason to question them.

The thing is, I truly believe Iowa playing in the Big Ten west and only getting one of those really good teams at a time helped with the ‘15 season and the recent conference championship game appearances.

Iowa St may get in, they may get completely obliterated…..but is that really any different than what we have seen Iowa do in big games recently?

 

[stickman80]

If Iowa played ISU 10 times, I think Iowa gets ouctoached 10 times.

Fify.

 

[stender72865]

If ISU and BYU are both 12-0 going into the Big 12 title game (a BIG IF), it would be a joke if they both aren't in the CFP. They would both most likely be Top 10 teams at that point. Both will be favored in final 6 games.

I'm expecting ESPN and CFP committee to follow the money and get as many SEC/Big 10 teams in as possible....even if they are undeserving.

ISU has UCF, Tech, @KU (at Arrowhead), Cincy, @Utah, and K State.

BYU has OK State, UCF, Utah, KU, AZ State, and Houston.

A lot of season left.

As a Cyclone fan, I'm just ecstatic about being 6-0. Hoping it continues vs UCF. Anything beyond that doesn't matter right now

 

[swagsurfer02]

If Iowa played ISU 10 times, I think Iowa wins 8 or 9 of the games.

Oh man, I don’t know about this at all. Maybe 6….. maybe 5 or 4. It depends. Besides Ohio St, Iowa St is the most complete team we’ve played.

 

[gohawks50]

Oh man, I don’t know about this at all. Maybe 6….. maybe 5 or 4. It depends. Besides Ohio St, Iowa St is the most complete team we’ve played.

And Iowa lost due to a field goal with time expiring. Under the old rules without the 2 minute timeout Iowa runs out the clock with the ball.

 

[swagsurfer02]

And Iowa lost due to a field goal with time expiring. Under the old rules without the 2 minute timeout Iowa runs out the clock with the ball.

I don’t understand the point you’re making? If Cade doesn’t throw interceptions and the offense can score within the 2 yard line twice…. We may not be having the discussion but it didn’t shake out like that.

What I will wager is that their passing game is better than our secondary.

 

[gohawks50]

I don’t understand the point you’re making? If Cade doesn’t throw interceptions and the offense can score within the 2 yard line twice…. We may not be having the discussion but it didn’t shake out like that.

What I will wager is that their passing game is better than our secondary.

I'm not saying they didn't deserve to win. Just pointing out that Iowa led the majority of the game and lost on a last second field goal that they wouldn't have had the opportunity to try if it not for changes in the rules that started this year. However, rules are rules and ISU took care of business. I don't hate the Cyclones like the majority of Hawk fans so other than the Iowa/Iowa State game, I root for them.

 

[swagsurfer02]

I'm not saying they didn't deserve to win. Just pointing out that Iowa led the majority of the game and lost on a last second field goal that they wouldn't have had the opportunity to try if it not for changes in the rules that started this year. However, rules are rules and ISU took care of business. I don't hate the Cyclones like the majority of Hawk fans so other than the Iowa/Iowa State game, I root for them.

Neither do I, Iowa State never did anything to me. I’m happy when they do well. My point was Iowa State has played well on offense most of the year, they played a poor first half. Whereas Iowa has seemed to put four quarters together really once this year against Washington (I will accept the Minnesota game too though) and although Cade completed two TD passes (first one against a power 5 team in almost 3 years……wtf) he only passed for just over 100 yards.

The problem with Iowa and it has been, is that when they get up by a couple scores they have to rely on the defense to hang on because it was almost luck that the offense got up by that much (if it was actually the offense scoring). Then if they get into a dog fight, Iowa isn’t built to come back or exchange scores with almost anyone.

 

[SI_NYC]

Oh man, I don’t know about this at all. Maybe 6….. maybe 5 or 4. It depends. Besides Ohio St, Iowa St is the most complete team we’ve played.

I think Iowa is better and ISU won due to growing pains of players adapting and learning from a new OC.