Do we cheer for Iowa St?
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Maybe so, but here is the history from the last 10 years. The 2024 Texas may be the strongest in recent history, but these results dont indicate that Texas has really dominated ISU. Texas won 6 of the last 10.
2023 in Ames
Texas 26
ISU 16
2022 in Austin
Texas 24
ISU 21
2021 in Ames
ISU 30
Texas 7
2020 in Austin
ISU 23
Texas 20
2019 in Ames
ISU 23
Texas 21
2018 in Austin
Texas 24
ISU 10
2017 in Ames
Texas 17
ISU 7
2016 in Austin
Texas 27
ISU 6
2015 in Ames
ISU 24
Texas 0
2014 in Austin
Texas 48
ISU 45
NIL has changed the game, but I was surprised it was this close.
Again, I'm only thinking UCF..
2023 in Ames
Texas 26
ISU 16
2022 in Austin
Texas 24
ISU 21
2021 in Ames
ISU 30
Texas 7
2020 in Austin
ISU 23
Texas 20
2019 in Ames
ISU 23
Texas 21
2018 in Austin
Texas 24
ISU 10
2017 in Ames
Texas 17
ISU 7
2016 in Austin
Texas 27
ISU 6
2015 in Ames
ISU 24
Texas 0
2014 in Austin
Texas 48
ISU 45
NIL has changed the game, but I was surprised it was this close.
Again, I'm only thinking UCF..
As a fan, you definitely don’t want to get caught looking ahead. 😂
Texas has been very unTexas like for most of the last 10 years. They’ve seemed to figure it out and bounced back last year. Either way, nothing in the last 10 years is relevant this year. Hardly anyone on either roster played significant minutes the last time ISU beat Texas (2021).
Also, it’s not a slam to Iowa State, because Iowa wouldn’t hang with Texas this year either. Very few teams will. They are one of a handful of teams (three maybe four or five) that are just on another level this year.
Agreed. Texas took a dip the last decade, while ISU rose up a little bit. It was just interesting to look at the scores. Means nothing.
And yes, it's important that I'm not looking ahead. I have such a big influence on the outcome 😂.
At the same time, it's easy (as a fan) to look at records at look past the likes of UCF. Then you get burned and pissed off. As always, I am cautiously optimistic.
At the same time, it's easy (as a fan) to look at records at look past the likes of UCF. Then you get burned and pissed off. As always, I am cautiously optimistic.
It's even worse than originally thought at the beginning of the season quite frankly. They really, really, really, really needed Utah to be good for perception purposes. Having Colorado do something would've been nice. I would even state it's on par or even worse than many years of the B1G West or B12 North. I really can't think of any true top 15 teams in the conference off the top of my head. Are there any? I mean actual top 15 teams of course. How can a conference with that many teams, that's technically still a power conference, not have a single team that at least worries some of the big guys? Is Iowa the best win of any of those teams? I'm genuinely curious. Can't be can it?
Again, the conference really needed Utah to be good.
EDIT: After perusing the standings, yeah, maybe BYU can carry the cradle some but, overall, ugh, I doubt they're really a worthy contender. Time will tell but it's pretty apparent the conference is struggling. If there was ever a year for ISU to actually win it, it would be this year and the COVID year. It could actually happen. Crazy stuff.
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Its becoming very clear that the gap between the Power 2 and the Other 2 (ACC & Big 12) is huge.
Let's be honest; Iowa embarrassingly gift wrapped the Clown's 20-19 win in Iowa City.
And does ANYONE who is not biased think that Clown U is the 9th best team in the country?
#13 BYU (6-0) has a chance of going 12-0; but when looking at their remaining schedule they only play 2 teams with a pulse.
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Oklahoma St (3-3)10/18 9:15 pm ESPN
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UCF (3-3)10/26 TBD
*****NOV 2: BYE WEEK*****
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Utah (4-2)11/9 TBD
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Kansas (1-5)11/16 TBD
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Arizona St (5-1)11/23 TBD
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Houston (2-4)11/30 TBD
If Iowa State is ever going to appear in the playoffs, this has to be the year. Easy schedule, extremely weak conference, gift wrapped a win at Kinnick against a better Iowa team, and many of the conference’s remaining “football” schools are having down years (Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma State). It’s all lining up for Iowa State this year as long as they don’t blow it along the way.
Texas has some pretty shitty years not long ago, Similar to the stretches that Michigan and Penn State have gone through. Iowa beat those teams when they sucked too.
BYU, while certainly not elite, is a very good team. And I would agree with ISU; having a great year, but no, they aren't the 9th best team in the country. It falls back to the "they were ranked, won, and teams ahead of them lost so they automatically got moved up". It happens. It happened to us before.Its becoming very clear that the gap between the Power 2 and the Other 2 (ACC & Big 12) is huge.
Let's be honest; Iowa embarrassingly gift wrapped the Clown's 20-19 win in Iowa City.
And does ANYONE who is not biased think that Clown U is the 9th best team in the country?
#13 BYU (6-0) has a chance of going 12-0; but when looking at their remaining schedule they only play 2 teams with a pulse.
vs
10/18 9:15 pm ESPN
@
10/26 TBD
*****NOV 2: BYE WEEK*****
@
11/9 TBD
vs
11/16 TBD
@
11/23 TBD
vs
11/30 TBD
Disagree. ISU schedule will never be that difficult going forward. The Big XII has no elite monster cash programs in it. The Big XII has NFL type parity.
The Big Ten has MLB setup. Several teams that can spend like the Yankees and Dodgers
I'm not going to apologize for a schedule that doesn't have blueblood programs in it. For decades, Iowa State success was limited because of programs that were often the best in the country. I was in college at the time of one of our best years at the time. Our only losses during the regular season were to teams that finished #1, #2 and #3 in the final national poll. So that best team in years finished fourth in an eight team league. It was pretty much the same story at four other programs in the Big 8. It's hard to build a winning program facing that level of competition with an administration that resented having to fund athletics programs.
Even when the Big 12 was formed, success of many teams like Iowa State and Kansas were defined by who they did not have to play that year. It's not unlike some of the recent years that Iowa feasted on a weak division and avoided some of the bluebloods. It's a great way to build a program.
My hope is that Iowa State can take advantage of the opportunity and make a name for itself. Somebody in this new Big 12 could very likely build themselves into a national power as long as this conference configuration exists. Gonzaga in basketball and Boise State in football are examples of teams that built nationally recognized programs on the backs of an opportunistic schedule. Somebody in the Big 12 may do the same. While the competition is very good each week in the Big 12, there are no national powers leading the way.
The main problem is that your dogsh!t conference will get an undeserved auto bid(w/ 1st round bye?!) to the playoffs.
And nobody is asking Cyclone fans to apologize either. You were dealt the hand you all are in and winning as a direct result. You also seem to recognize why as well.
However, you guys have only a few years to become the "national power" you are stating but virtually no time, in reality, to make it happen. How will you be able to recruit without media rights to afford NIL options to make this happen? How will you consistently beat blue bloods with 1/6th of the budget? Being in one of these two conferences is really the only way you'll be able to continue playing football at the highest level of college. By, at most, 2035 or so, there won't be any other teams not in the B1G or SEC capable of playing in the playoffs any longer. They will essentially be forced to another lower rung. By then, the 24-32 team structure for each conference will be set going forward most likely. Notre Dame will be in one, FSU will be in one, Clemson, UNC, Duke, etc. etc. That's just reality. If ISU doesn't make the next cut (I see no reason why the B1G would honestly), they never will. The only real hope is the SEC. Otherwise, they'll essentially be what North Dakota St. is as a "national power". Going to be hard competing with a 300+ million dollar disparity (and growing) in a world where college football is no longer hiding the fact that money wins. Us on the other hand, we'll be just fine as we continue being a top 20 money maker in football yearly.
I'll continue to watch college football at the highest level. Don't know if we can all say the same for you guys. Better find a way in or else. Good luck with that too. Better actually beat some of those blue bloods right away to get that chance. Your numbers are low, with very limited national support, in a low population state where you'd have to poach from the Iowa fanbase in order to have a low chance of getting in. Yeah, again, good luck.
The other thing here is, are we sure that football success alone is enough to get you guys an invite? Seems logical but we're talking about a business here. A lot more to it obviously. Gonzaga and Boise St., like you mentioned above, have no chance of getting in either. All their success were for naught. Those are terrible comparisons to use.
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It all starts with the understanding this is an invitational tournament. It is not an objective playoff, because a committee selects who is worthy. The only, true, national playoff would be the 9 FBS, conference champs in a playoff. Not going to happen.
After understanding that, consider who has the power, not just the money. They are the powers that will control the subjectivity of a “CFP” process. Currently, that is the B1G and the SEC.
Those two will yield their money and power to get the structure their way. If not, then they will undertake the efforts to capitalize with a “league of their own.” The writings on the wall.
After understanding that, consider who has the power, not just the money. They are the powers that will control the subjectivity of a “CFP” process. Currently, that is the B1G and the SEC.
Those two will yield their money and power to get the structure their way. If not, then they will undertake the efforts to capitalize with a “league of their own.” The writings on the wall.
I have no problem ISU winning. I watch every ISU game if Iowa is not on. Started following ISU when Johnny Majors was coach. With that said, the ISU loss this year still burns me. If it comes down to ISU-Iowa for final playoff spot, the loss will suck even more. (Realize that probably won't happen)
The difference in Iowa-ISU game is if Iowa wins, it's BAU. If ISU wins its an event.
Oh, and I like Matt Campbell.
The difference in Iowa-ISU game is if Iowa wins, it's BAU. If ISU wins its an event.
Oh, and I like Matt Campbell.
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The continued cooperation of the Big Ten and SEC are gonna evaporate all of the big media cash out of the pool.
Perhaps for now. Ten years from now we'll likely only have two massive conferences and everyone will belong to one or the other. Revenue sharing will help balance the haves from have-nots as it relates to NIL. Everything will become much more commoditized.
I’ve grown to despise Campbell less and less over the years. Reminds me so much of Ferentz in his prime. Professional, no nonsense, well-spoken, business-like, detail oriented, family focused, and a seemingly likable person. If it weren’t for some of their delusional, douchey fans, I might actually want to see ISU do well under Campbell. Instead, I’m rooting for Ohio State to choke this season so they go after Campbell, which is his dream job if you listen to those who know.
They don’t really know. Campbell, like Ferentz, is recognizing the advantage of staying at one institution. He has done a fairly good job in maintaining the key parts of his staff, and he has an outstanding DC (like Parker) who will most likely end his career at ISU.
One more thing. Campbell turned down a higher salary so that he could offer more to his assistants, so it would appear that money is not a driving factor to jump elsewhere.
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It may be a “dream” job, but it’s almost like coaching an NFL team in that the expectations are sky high and it has its own set of headaches.
It's much more enjoyable to support both teams (IMO). It might be ISU's time to dominate for a cycle or two. It's perfect timing. KF will be pushed out, conference changes, other teams passing the hawks by, etc.
In addition, ISU has big time donors (billionaire), know how to recruit and coach QB's/offense and will capitalize on their success (unlike KF over the years - craps it down his leg every time Iowa has had a good season). It's the harsh truth. Go Hawks and State!
In addition, ISU has big time donors (billionaire), know how to recruit and coach QB's/offense and will capitalize on their success (unlike KF over the years - craps it down his leg every time Iowa has had a good season). It's the harsh truth. Go Hawks and State!
I get the fan comments. I just figure every fan base has their douchey fans. ISU's are just close by.
The football gurus that have handed out national championships for decades say the clones are top ten.Its becoming very clear that the gap between the Power 2 and the Other 2 (ACC & Big 12) is huge.
Let's be honest; Iowa embarrassingly gift wrapped the Clown's 20-19 win in Iowa City.
And does ANYONE who is not biased think that Clown U is the 9th best team in the country?
#13 BYU (6-0) has a chance of going 12-0; but when looking at their remaining schedule they only play 2 teams with a pulse.
vs
10/18 9:15 pm ESPN
@
10/26 TBD
*****NOV 2: BYE WEEK*****
@
11/9 TBD
vs
11/16 TBD
@
11/23 TBD
vs
11/30 TBD
They can't be wrong. Can they?
I heard that Campbell wasn't interest in that job the last time it came open. There are a lot more cooks in the kitchen at a program like Ohio State.
There may come a time when he wants a different challenge, but he may be content being Iowa State's Bill Snyder. As long as he can retain and attract quality coaches and players that share his values, he might stick around. That could change if Heacock or Pollard retire. I heard Heacock was a big reason Campbell never left for USC.
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I tried to watch the Hawks all the way through on Saturday night. It was miserable to watch the offense struggle as usual and the defense just get gashed and miss tackles. The game felt like it was lost midway through the 3rd quarter. Watching Cade out there just looking like warmed over dogshit then saw him laughing on the sidelines... just pissed me off and I switched over to the ISU game for good.
The something happened I didn't expect. I actually enjoyed watching football again. Brecht was running and throwing, the ISU defense was making plays, there was a whole different energy level out of the players and coaches.
I'm ashamed...but it's the truth. Iowa football has done this to me. KF's stubbornness has done this to me.
The something happened I didn't expect. I actually enjoyed watching football again. Brecht was running and throwing, the ISU defense was making plays, there was a whole different energy level out of the players and coaches.
I'm ashamed...but it's the truth. Iowa football has done this to me. KF's stubbornness has done this to me.
