And now ISU fans want their flowers from Iowa fans when for years ISU fans dogged our schedule despite ISU being on it. I don’t see how ISU fans expect this just because the shoes on the other foot now.
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I agree it doesn’t matter. Cheer for them if you want, or don’t, it’s up to you.
All the chest thumping about conference pedigree reminds me when people here were bragging about the extra money the B10 was going to bring in, but ignoring that it means more losses and a more difficult time to the top for Iowa.
Right, chances of the B12 winning the national championship aren’t great… but Iowa winning a national championship are even worse.
Iowa State has a 50% chance to make the playoffs. Iowa has a 5% chance.
Both teams have near identical talent. In what world can you spin conference realignment as a good thing for Iowa and a bad thing for ISU? Is it really bragging rights that as an Iowa fan you can cheer for Ohio State or Oregon to win the NC?
Textbook example of how people are tricked into voting against their self-interest to protect those at the top.
Right, chances of the B12 winning the national championship aren’t great… but Iowa winning a national championship are even worse.
Iowa State has a 50% chance to make the playoffs. Iowa has a 5% chance.
Both teams have near identical talent. In what world can you spin conference realignment as a good thing for Iowa and a bad thing for ISU? Is it really bragging rights that as an Iowa fan you can cheer for Ohio State or Oregon to win the NC?
Textbook example of how people are tricked into voting against their self-interest to protect those at the top.
The money will only matter if and when the schools can directly pay players.
Obviously not all big ten schools can beat their big 12 opponents.
The admin and ADs will never give up that money. They will only give up that money if they are forced to. The extra money does nothing for Iowa fans - and even IF that money went to players, how does that help Iowa beat OSU, Mich, Penn State USC? It’s all about your resources compared to your path. It has no effect on ISUs path either.
Iowa has like 40 M more per year than ISU in their budget. Do you see the results on the field every single year? Iowa should be dominating in almost every sport. Someone needs to seriously ask the AD where are the results? Just seems to me that Iowa is not getting what they are paying for.
I think in football Iowa has at least been set up to do great things. The undefeated regular season in 2015, multiple 10+ win seasons, B1G Championship game appearances, All-Americans, NFL representation, etc. That said, I do believe an offense with a pulse the last 3-4 years would’ve given us a shot at even greater things. That falls on coaching, and the ball was dropped during that span. Iowa is in a great position financially for continued success, but it all depends on the next coaching staff. (I believe Ferentz will be done after this year or next.)
Men’s basketball the same. It has the money but, in my opinion, Fran isn’t the man. Recruiting is great for a mid-major school or a men’s league at the local YMCA.
I don't think Cyclone want any "flowers", but I do think this is kind of funny. When the Conference realignment started, and the Big 12 was in serious trouble, a lot of Hawk fans (on here and in the real world) relished in tbe possibly of Iowa State going to the MAC. Now, Iowa State is in a better position than Iowa to make a run at the CFP (not just this year, but moving forward).
Hawk fans seem a bit bothered, and even nervous that the tide is turning. It goes beyond winning last month in Kinnick. The programs seem to be trending in opposite directions. The sheer number of negative threads on this board before + during an Iowa game tells me the fan base isnt happy with the product on the field.
I've said this many times before on this board. As a Cyclone fan who suffered through some BAD football in the 80's and 90's, what is happening now is truly remarkable and to some degree surreal. I imagine it was the same for Hawkeye fans who suffered through 19 straight losing seasons in the 60's and 70's. Hayden came along and turned it around. I'm guessing it was just as fun for Hawk fans back then. I'm not comparing Campbell to Fry. Campbell has done a great job, but hasn't reached that level.
Anyway, Im just enjoying what is happening now. To be 6-0 doesn't seem real, and am very aware their bubble could burst at any moment. UCF at home is a winnable game, but stranger things have happened.
Hawk fans seem a bit bothered, and even nervous that the tide is turning. It goes beyond winning last month in Kinnick. The programs seem to be trending in opposite directions. The sheer number of negative threads on this board before + during an Iowa game tells me the fan base isnt happy with the product on the field.
I've said this many times before on this board. As a Cyclone fan who suffered through some BAD football in the 80's and 90's, what is happening now is truly remarkable and to some degree surreal. I imagine it was the same for Hawkeye fans who suffered through 19 straight losing seasons in the 60's and 70's. Hayden came along and turned it around. I'm guessing it was just as fun for Hawk fans back then. I'm not comparing Campbell to Fry. Campbell has done a great job, but hasn't reached that level.
Anyway, Im just enjoying what is happening now. To be 6-0 doesn't seem real, and am very aware their bubble could burst at any moment. UCF at home is a winnable game, but stranger things have happened.
if Iowa State played alabama, roll tide. That's how I feel about ever cheering for the clowns.
& this is why Nebraska wishes they were back in the Big12. No TX or OK to beat out for the conference championship.
I don't know that this is true. Iowa State most likely will have to win the conference to get the only CFP bid the Big12 is guaranteed. Either that or go undefeated and lose in the conference championship game and hope they let a second Big12 team in.
Iowa doesn't need to win the conference and may only need to be one of the three or four best teams in the league.
We will see how this plays out over the next few years before they change the playoff.
The Clowns aren’t even close to being a top 10 team. Whichever average team wins the Big MAC…..will get absolutely steamrolled when they finally play a top SEC or Big Ten team.
Your attempt at making fun of ISU is… my big brother would beat you up?
They’ll essentially have to do 20% and I’m confident the current AD knows that. Under Barta, I’d agree. Goetz understands the landscape and isn’t an unrelenting dinosaur. It certainly would distance you from other non-SEC/B10 schools. It may help close the gap if you’re getting 90% of your other targets that might end up at K St, ISU, or Texas Tech. We’re not beating out the elite schools for many recruits as it is.
Whatever dipsh!t. I’m stating the fact that the Lil 12 is a joke & doesn’t deserve an auto-spot in the playoffs.
So you’re saying Iowa State is the fake ID of college football?
I'd go so far to say as I don't think ISU has a better shot at making the playoff THIS year. IMO both teams would need to win out and quite frankly I don't think either one does.
I didn’t either until I saw Iowa State go into West Virginia and win. I think they pull it off and run it. They’re getting more confident by the week.
Even during the weakest Big Ten West years.....you still had to beat the top team from the East to make the playoffs. Those teams were always legit top 5-10 teams who actually played other legit top 5-10 teams along the way.
The Lil 12 this year doesn't have even 1 legit team which will be glaringly obvious come playoff time. But don't worry.....I'll be back then to put you in your place!
Of course you do. Iowa could win out and it has no chance. Oregon, Ohio St, Penn St are not going to be passed over. ISU can lose one and still make it as conference champ.
Best guess right now:
Oregon
tOSU
Penn St
Texas
Georgia
Tennessee
Notre Dame
Miami
ISU
Boise St
2 out of Pitt/Clemson/A&M/Bama/BYU/Kstate/Mizzou/Ole Miss
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They'd lose to the clones every year. Debbie has a way to go.
every year somebody in Big XII will hang a CFP banner. That’s going to be the new gold standard for college football.
Few people will care about the Jan 1st Chicken Pot Pie Bowl.
Few people will care about the Jan 1st Chicken Pot Pie Bowl.
I root for all Iowa teams, except when they play the Hawks. This thread and Cyclone fans are making me rethink that. Here is the deal, The object for Iowa was always to win the B10 Championship going back to when winning it meant you went to the Rose Bowl. So non conference games meant very little to Iowa. However those games meant everything to ISU. NOW that ISU has the chance to maybe win the B12 championship and that would mean they get invited to a nice place, they are beginning to understand what the non conference games actually meant to Hawkeyes all these years. So don't go puffing up, just because now you realize that there might be more to a football season then 1 non conference game. Like the old saying goes, act like you have been there before (even if you haven't).
I would guess the line would be a pick ‘em on neutral site. The two teams are very similar in my opinion.
Losing at home 20-19 to now #9 ranked Clown U was, lets be honest, embarrassing & is gonna haunt this Iowa team
These two FIRST AND GOAL situations in the 1st half where Iowa settled for a FG were killers.
Instead of being up 21-0 at halftime, Iowa was up just 13-0.
(1) At the start of the 2nd Qtr, with Iowa up 7-0, Iowa had 1st & Goal at the Clown ONE-yd line. On 1st down, Moulton lost 3 yds. Cade, on 2nd and 3rd down, threw incomplete and on 4th and goal from the 4, Iowa settled for a 23 yd FG and a 10-0 lead.
(2) With 1:30 left in the 2nd Qtr, Iowa had 1st & Goal at the Clown THREE-yd line. On 1st down, Cade threw incomplete. On 2nd down, Leshon ran for no gain. On 3rd down, Cade threw incomplete. On 4th and goal from the 3, Iowa settled for a 21 yd FG and a 13-0 lead.
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These two FIRST AND GOAL situations in the 1st half where Iowa settled for a FG were killers.
Instead of being up 21-0 at halftime, Iowa was up just 13-0.
(1) At the start of the 2nd Qtr, with Iowa up 7-0, Iowa had 1st & Goal at the Clown ONE-yd line. On 1st down, Moulton lost 3 yds. Cade, on 2nd and 3rd down, threw incomplete and on 4th and goal from the 4, Iowa settled for a 23 yd FG and a 10-0 lead.
(2) With 1:30 left in the 2nd Qtr, Iowa had 1st & Goal at the Clown THREE-yd line. On 1st down, Cade threw incomplete. On 2nd down, Leshon ran for no gain. On 3rd down, Cade threw incomplete. On 4th and goal from the 3, Iowa settled for a 21 yd FG and a 13-0 lead.
Iowa State 20-19 Iowa (Sep 7, 2024) Play-by-Play - ESPN
Play-by-play action for the Iowa State Cyclones vs. Iowa Hawkeyes NCAAF game from September 7, 2024 on ESPN.
Here is the current 12 team CFP projection.
Incredible.
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Incredible.
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CFP Bracket Watch: Oregon takes over No. 2 seed; No. 1 Texas, No. 3 Miami, No. 4 Iowa St. hold spots
Oregon’s one-point victory over Ohio State was enough to put the Ducks on the No. 2 seed line in The Associated Press College Football Playoff bracket projection.
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With Clown U's cupcake Big 12 schedule, they are on their way to a 10-0 start.
Clown U does not play a ranked team until their final regular season game, which is at home (vs K State).
Clown U's (6-0) remaining 6 games:
vs
UCF (3-3)
10/19....TBD
******Oct 26 BYE WEEK******
vs
Texas Tech (5-1)
11/2....TBD
@
Kansas (1-5)
11/9....TBD
vs
Cincinnati (4-2)
11/16....TBD
@
Utah (4-2)
11/23....TBD
vs
#18 Kansas State (5-1)
11/30....TBD
Clown U does not play a ranked team until their final regular season game, which is at home (vs K State).
Clown U's (6-0) remaining 6 games:
vs
UCF (3-3)10/19....TBD
******Oct 26 BYE WEEK******
vs
Texas Tech (5-1)11/2....TBD
@
Kansas (1-5)11/9....TBD
vs
Cincinnati (4-2)11/16....TBD
@
Utah (4-2)11/23....TBD
vs
#18 Kansas State (5-1)11/30....TBD
They will lose at least 2 games out of all of those.With Clown U's cupcake Big 12 schedule, they are on their way to a 10-0 start.
Clown U does not play a ranked team until their final regular season game, which is at home (vs K State).
Clown U's (6-0) remaining 6 games:
vs
10/19....TBD
******Oct 26 BYE WEEK******
vs
11/2....TBD
@
11/9....TBD
vs
11/16....TBD
@
11/23....TBD
vs
11/30....TBD
The final seeding would be after the conference championship games, correct? So they would have to go 13-0 to get that #4?Here is the current 12 team CFP projection.
Incredible.
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CFP Bracket Watch: Oregon takes over No. 2 seed; No. 1 Texas, No. 3 Miami, No. 4 Iowa St. hold spots
Oregon’s one-point victory over Ohio State was enough to put the Ducks on the No. 2 seed line in The Associated Press College Football Playoff bracket projection.
I actually think there is a reasonably high probability that one of them will. ISU's schedule looks more favorable with each passing week. Utah is not good, and they get KSU at home. There's nobody of any substance left. Maybe Texas Tech who they get at home and lost by 21 to Washington State? I think they're going to be +7 minimum favorites in every game going forward.
Iowa has less room for error given the lack of any passing game, and they still have to get by resurgent rivals Wisconsin and Nebraska, but they get both of them at home. They will also likely be favored in all of their games.
I think there's a good chance that one of these teams will win out. Today I'd put ISU's odds at 60% and Iowa's at 50%.
