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Do we cheer for Iowa St?

They will lose at least 2 games out of all of those.
Yeah they most likely will not get out unscathed. But my God they are 6-0 and they act like they would stand a chance in the playoffs. But I feel as though most of the rankings are way out of whack anyway and the next couple of weeks will straighten them out a little. That's why I say, the best thing the Hawks can do is dominate and the rest will take care of itself.
 
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Yeah they most likely will not get out unscathed. But my God they are 6-0 and they act like they would stand a chance in the playoffs. But I feel as though most of the rankings are way out of whack anyway and the next couple of weeks will straighten them out a little. That's why I say, the best thing the Hawks can do is dominate and the rest will take care of itself.

IF we finish 10-2, we are gonna be thinking we should be 11-1.

ughhhhhh

But neither Iowa nor Iowa State can hang with Texas, Oregon or Ohio State.
 
The final seeding would be after the conference championship games, correct? So they would have to go 13-0 to get that #4?

Whoever wins the BigXII is guaranteed a playoff spot with an opening round bye. So no, Iowa State does not have to win out to receive that four spot in the ranking. In fact, they could possibly lose two more games and still get the #4 seed.

But yes, the final seeding is after the conf championship games. The conference champion has a guaranteed spot in the playoffs from the B1G, ACC, SEC, and BigXII with a seed #1-4 (opening round bye).
 
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I root for all Iowa teams, except when they play the Hawks. This thread and Cyclone fans are making me rethink that. Here is the deal, The object for Iowa was always to win the B10 Championship going back to when winning it meant you went to the Rose Bowl. So non conference games meant very little to Iowa. However those games meant everything to ISU. NOW that ISU has the chance to maybe win the B12 championship and that would mean they get invited to a nice place, they are beginning to understand what the non conference games actually meant to Hawkeyes all these years. So don't go puffing up, just because now you realize that there might be more to a football season then 1 non conference game. Like the old saying goes, act like you have been there before (even if you haven't).

I’ll actually disagree with your post 100%. First, if this thread is making you rethink rooting for ISU, that says you don’t visit here much. The few ISU fans posting in this thread are actually some of the better ISU around here. At least in this thread so far.

Secondly and most important, the non conference schedule for ISU or any BigXII means dick now. The only thing that matters to a BigXII team nowadays is winning their conference as that’ll be their only shot of making the playoffs. It is going to be very unlikely to see an at large team make the playoffs from the BigXII in the future.
 
Whoever wins the BigXII is guaranteed a playoff spot with an opening round bye.

Actually some clarification on that came out - conference champs are NOT guaranteed a first round bye or top 4 seed. I'd be absolutely shocked if they ended up a top 4 seed even if they won out. For the record I'd rather have that first round home game so I'd love a 5-8 seed.
 
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Secondly and most important, the non conference schedule for ISU or any BigXII means dick now. The only thing that matters to a BigXII team nowadays is winning their conference as that’ll be their only shot of making the playoffs. It is going to be very unlikely to see an at large team make the playoffs from the BigXII in the future.

Agreed and honestly this is the reason Big 12 teams should either do one of two things: Schedule extremely hard, or schedule extremely easy. If you can schedule a bunch of really tough games, nothing is honestly ruined by losing to them. Or you can schedule really easy to try and get and stay ranked as high as possible.
 
Actually some clarification on that came out - conference champs are NOT guaranteed a first round bye or top 4 seed. I'd be absolutely shocked if they ended up a top 4 seed even if they won out. For the record I'd rather have that first round home game so I'd love a 5-8 seed.

Did something change in the last 35 days (see link).

Under these set of playoff seeding rules, a BigXII team will virtually never see a 5-8 seed.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/...all-playoff-will-work-teams-schedule-bids?amp


Updated link from a day later
https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2024-02-20/how-college-football-playoff-works?amp
 
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With Clown U's cupcake Big 12 schedule, they are on their way to a 10-0 start.

Clown U does not play a ranked team until their final regular season game, which is at home (vs K State).

Clown U's (6-0) remaining 6 games:


vsUCF (3-3)
10/19....TBD


******Oct 26 BYE WEEK******


vsTexas Tech (5-1)
11/2....TBD


@Kansas (1-5)
11/9....TBD


vsCincinnati (4-2)
11/16....TBD


@ Utah (4-2)
11/23....TBD


vs #18 Kansas State (5-1)
11/30....TBD

With Iowa's cupcake Big 10 schedule they have zero ranked teams left. ISU's remaining SOS per the FPI is 52 and Iowa's is 70.
 
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Honestly I heard them talking about it on a CycloneFanatic Podcast, I don't remember which one and even if I did I wouldn't remember where it was in it. I could be wrong.

The ONLY WAY a P4 champion would not receive the 1-4 seed (opening round bye) is if the G5 champion is ranked higher than them in the final CFP rankings. That would be embarrassing. Notre Dame or any other independent can never receive a 1-4 seed.
 
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The ONLY WAY a P4 champion would not receive the 1-4 seed (opening round bye) is if the G5 champion is ranked higher than them in the final CFP rankings. That would be embarrassing. Notre Dame or any other independent can never receive a 1-4 seed.
“Starting in the 2024-25 season, here's the new, expanded format to know:

  • 12 teams will be selected to the Playoff field
  • The four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded 1-4 and each will receive a first-round bye
  • Teams seeded 5-12 will play each other in the first round on the home field of the higher-ranked team”
https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/...e,to decide among teams that are comparable."
 
It's about to strike midnight for them. Maybe not this weekend, but after that.

Watched Saturday night and their kicker missed like a 43 yarder wide left. I was like where the F was that about 5 weeks ago!
He wasn’t good in Iowa game. Guy was missing during warmups at halftime.

He pulled that kick out of his ass. Congrats to him, what a memory and story to tell.

I was told by clone fans he has a powerful leg. Accuracy is another story.
 
CyCLOWN Fanatic is a shitty site. Agreed; the truth must hurt you Clown fans.
I’m glad we have Clown fans here…..will be fun over the next few years laughing at the Lil12/BigMAC!

Then the fun will end when the Big10 & SEC decide to end their auto-bid. They can compete for the reject’s title with the MAC, Mountain West, ACC leftovers….or whatever sh!tty leagues are still around.
 
I’ll actually disagree with your post 100%. First, if this thread is making you rethink rooting for ISU, that says you don’t visit here much. The few ISU fans posting in this thread are actually some of the better ISU around here. At least in this thread so far.

Secondly and most important, the non conference schedule for ISU or any BigXII means dick now. The only thing that matters to a BigXII team nowadays is winning their conference as that’ll be their only shot of making the playoffs. It is going to be very unlikely to see an at large team make the playoffs from the BigXII in the future.
Welcome to big boy football, the Iowa ISU game has not meant anything to Iowa since the winner of the B10 went to the Rose Bowl. See??? Iowa was always focused in winning the B10. Then when the playoffs came around and basically they were saying if a team went undefeated they would get in and Iowa fans said yeah but we play one more P5 (at the time) game. SO fans were saying it was a detriment to Iowa to play ISU and ISU fans once again could not wrap their minds around what Iowa was trying to say. Now what is really going to piss ISU fans off is when the loser of the B12 championship (so 2nd ranked in the B12) is over looked in the play offs for the 3rd ranked B10 team. Then we will hear a bunch of crying again.
 
The Clowns aren’t even close to being a top 10 team. Whichever average team wins the Big MAC…..will get absolutely steamrolled when they finally play a top SEC or Big Ten team.
Kinda like Iowa does when they play a ranked team?
 
I’m glad we have Clown fans here…..will be fun over the next few years laughing at the Lil12/BigMAC!

Then the fun will end when the Big10 & SEC decide to end their auto-bid. They can compete for the reject’s title with the MAC, Mountain West, ACC leftovers….or whatever sh!tty leagues are still around.

The Big 12 is a joke. And that's why:

(1) The B1G and SEC are now called the Power 2 and the Big 12 and ACC are called the "other 2."

(2) The B1G, with 4 teams, and the SEC, also with 4 teams, are wanting 8 automatic bids to the CFP starting in 2026.
 
And now ISU fans want their flowers from Iowa fans when for years ISU fans dogged our schedule despite ISU being on it. I don’t see how ISU fans expect this just because the shoes on the other foot now.
Exactly true! Every year, any hint of success was always questioned by ISU fans. For the first time ever, shoe is on the other foot and ISU fans want recognition. They haven't done a damn thing...ever. please.
 
The only way you root for ISU is for Iowa to make the CFP. In that case, yes, you absolutely root for ISU to win out.

Assuming Iowa wins out, here are the other rooting interests:
Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Washington to win. Would be great if Wisconsin and Nebraska were both top 15.
Hope PSU loses 3 games.
OSU wins out.

This is the ideal situation for Iowa in that Oregon and OSU would play for the B1G title and Iowa would be a clear-cut third place, sitting at 10-2 (8-1). This would have to get them in.

If OSU loses another game and PSU loses atleast 3 times, that puts Iowa in the B1G against Oregon assuming they win out. But, this is rolling the dice because a win in the B1G gives Iowa the bye but a loss may push them out of the CFP altogether win a 10-3 record, especially if it is not close.

There is a possibility that Iowa could still make the CFP as the 4th B1G team to make it if PSU finishes with only 1 loss. So here is further rooting interest:

Notre Dame loses atleast once more but great if they lost twice more.
SEC teams that are out of it, like Kentucky, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Auburn, and more than likely Arkansas, Ole Miss now, and Oklahoma to start picking off the 1 loss SEC teams. Only 4 SEC teams can make it for Iowa to get in.

The CFP will more than likely be made up of:

1 Big 12 team
2 ACC teams
1 non-P4 team
3-4 B1G teams
4-5 SEC teams
possibly Notre Dame if they finish with 1 loss.

we need Notre Dame out and only a clear 4 teams from SEC to make it, or atleast Iowa to be clearly above a 5th SEC team, which they would be if only 4 SEC teams finish with 2 losses or less.
 
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The four conference champs getting an automatic bid makes sense. All of them getting an automatic bye does not. The 12 playoff teams should be seeded by strength.
 
The ONLY WAY a P4 champion would not receive the 1-4 seed (opening round bye) is if the G5 champion is ranked higher than them in the final CFP rankings. That would be embarrassing. Notre Dame or any other independent can never receive a 1-4 seed.
Yes. Really ANY conference champion, by CFP rank, that would place them in the first four selections. I don’t think it would happen often, but there could be, for example, B1G & SEC champ, ACC, MWC. Or some other set of teams.

Given there are 9 FBS conferences, whichever 4 champs have the highest CFP rank get the 1-4, weird things could happen (looking at you Boise St.). Throw in rankings are by committee, and not computer, subjectivity is in play. That is why a competitive, and stacked B1G & SEC, with several tied leading teams, could get shafted in 1-4, if say Big12, ACC, and/or other conference champ is undefeated.
 
“Starting in the 2024-25 season, here's the new, expanded format to know:

  • 12 teams will be selected to the Playoff field
  • The four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded 1-4 and each will receive a first-round bye
  • Teams seeded 5-12 will play each other in the first round on the home field of the higher-ranked team”
https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2024-02-20/how-college-football-playoff-works#:~:text=From the CFP website: "The selection committee,to decide among teams that are comparable."
Notice it does not stipulate the four highest-ranked P4 conference champs, just the highest-ranked conference champs.
 
The only way you root for ISU is for Iowa to make the CFP. In that case, yes, you absolutely root for ISU to win out.

Assuming Iowa wins out, here are the other rooting interests:
Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Washington to win. Would be great if Wisconsin and Nebraska were both top 15.
Hope PSU loses 3 games.
OSU wins out.

This is the ideal situation for Iowa in that Oregon and OSU would play for the B1G title and Iowa would be a clear-cut third place, sitting at 10-2 (8-1). This would have to get them in.

If OSU loses another game and PSU loses atleast 3 times, that puts Iowa in the B1G against Oregon assuming they win out. But, this is rolling the dice because a win in the B1G gives Iowa the bye but a loss may push them out of the CFP altogether win a 10-3 record, especially if it is not close.

There is a possibility that Iowa could still make the CFP as the 4th B1G team to make it if PSU finishes with only 1 loss. So here is further rooting interest:

Notre Dame loses atleast once more but great if they lost twice more.
SEC teams that are out of it, like Kentucky, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Auburn, and more than likely Arkansas, Ole Miss now, and Oklahoma to start picking off the 1 loss SEC teams. Only 4 SEC teams can make it for Iowa to get in.

The CFP will more than likely be made up of:

1 Big 12 team
2 ACC teams
1 non-P4 team
3-4 B1G teams
4-5 SEC teams
possibly Notre Dame if they finish with 1 loss.

we need Notre Dame out and only a clear 4 teams from SEC to make it, or atleast Iowa to be clearly above a 5th SEC team, which they would be if only 4 SEC teams finish with 2 losses or less.
Remember when they used to let writers and coaches, or their staff, vote for the mythical national championship? A popularity contest at best. What a joke! At least they are attempting some sort of playoff.
 
ISU winning the Big 12 might just be enough to officially mark the death of the conference. At the very least it would slip to Group of Five.
100% true. Couldn't have said it better myself.


Everyone knows the Big 12 is a joke now that Texas & Oklahoma are gone.

Clown fans obviously don't like the reality that is coming:

* They are already calling the B1G and ACC the Power 2 and the ACC & Big 12 "The Other 2."

* The Power 2 Conferences will get over $300M more annually from ESPN than the Other 2 (Big 12 & ACC) in 2026. In the past structure, the 5 major conferences mostly split evenly 80% of the CFP’s $460 million in revenue.

* The B1G (4 bids) and the SEC (4 bids) want 8 AUTOMATIC bids in future CF Playoffs.

 
The Big 12 is a joke. And that's why:

(1) The B1G and SEC are now called the Power 2 and the Big 12 and ACC are called the "other 2."

(2) The B1G, with 4 teams, and the SEC, also with 4 teams, are wanting 8 automatic bids to the CFP starting in 2026.
It might just happen this year, who knows.
 
Iowa State's D is probably good enough to hang - it seems like (through 6 games anyway) that Heacock makes really good adjustments in-game. See WV. Their LBs are depleted due to injury, but the young players have seemed to do pretty well. I think their offense is good enough to move the ball, and to keep their D off the field.

I'm not sure ISU could beat UT this year, but I felt the same way the last few years, and they won 3 of 5. Who knows? I hope they get the chance. Thats too far down the road to even consider.

First things first UCF at home on Saturday.
 
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