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Like bowl match-ups...it's hard to determine overall conference strength from a relatively small sample size. However, it's quite obvious that B10 teams play much tougher defense than typical B12 teams.
There are a lot of bad defensive teams in the Big Ten. Maryland gave up 35 to Temple, Northwestern gave up 39 to Akron, Purdue gave up 40 to Mizzou, Rutgers gave up 55 to Kansas, Wisky gave up 24 to BYU, Penn State gave up 38 to Appy St. Heck, even Ohio State gave up 28 to TCU who could only muster 17 against ISU. There are some very good defenses in the Big Ten, but there are a bunch of poor ones too.
 
Like bowl match-ups...it's hard to determine overall conference strength from a relatively small sample size. However, it's quite obvious that B10 teams play much tougher defense than typical B12 teams.
Ya, interestingly in looking at common opponents,

isu d held iowa offense to 13 points while, compared to iowa scoring 17 points against wisconsin.

And isu d held tcu to 17 points, compared to tcu scoring 28 against ohio state.
 
Ya, interestingly in looking at common opponents,

isu d held iowa offense to 13 points while, compared to iowa scoring 17 points against wisconsin.

And isu d held tcu to 17 points, compared to tcu scoring 28 against ohio state.

Luckily for ISU that cancellation kept us from getting tape. Otherwise we'd have put up 40. Obviously.
 
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Sagarin line for ISU

48 Iowa State A = 74.25 1 3 0 81.65( 1) 0 1 0 | 0 3 0 | 74.61 47 | 72.40 56 | 71.47 60

Bolded and underlined is the schedule strength and ranking. Not having a first game has hurt big time. The Iowa loss would have been a win and possibly one of OU or TCU would have been a win as well. We just don`t have the luxury of playing in the weakest P5 conference by far. Iowa is gift wrapped the B10 West with a win against Wisc in a down year for the Badgers but piss down their leg. Just a reminder that Northwestern lost at home to Akron.
Typical blah blah blah. 1-3. Soon to be 1-X.
 
There are a lot of bad defensive teams in the Big Ten. Maryland gave up 35 to Temple, Northwestern gave up 39 to Akron, Purdue gave up 40 to Mizzou, Rutgers gave up 55 to Kansas, Wisky gave up 24 to BYU, Penn State gave up 38 to Appy St. Heck, even Ohio State gave up 28 to TCU who could only muster 17 against ISU. There are some very good defenses in the Big Ten, but there are a bunch of poor ones too.
You can pick out individual games, but as a whole, the B10 conference plays better smash mouth defense than the B12 does.
 
No, ISU is getting better every week. The reason that ISU fans are frustrated by the loss in IC is it was significantly easier to win than 5 of our first 6 games. Lightning struck twice when we didn`t get game experience.

Your lines wouldn't have been more physical or strong with the first game under their belts. Iowa whipped your boys along the lines. And they'd do it again tomorrow. And they'd win again tomorrow. Have fun with your season that will prove disappointing. You've got a number of additional losses coming. Guaranteed.
 
Iowa, once again, is gifted with very weak schedule. While Iowa State will go against ranked team after ranked team. For instance compare the two teams' schedules the next 4 weeks. Iowa fans get lulled into believing they are better than they actually are. Iowa then ends up with a good record, gets overmatched and pummeled in a bowl game.
 
Guys you do ever feel sorry
Iowa, once again, is gifted with very weak schedule. While Iowa State will go against ranked team after ranked team. For instance compare the two teams' schedules the next 4 weeks. Iowa fans get lulled into believing they are better than they actually are. Iowa then ends up with a good record, gets overmatched and pummeled in a bowl game.

Better to have gone and lost than never gone. Sad clowns
 
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it is possible that Iowa has had 1 season with a stronger schedule strength since the B12 went to 10 teams but very little chance it is more than that. The West division of the B10 is horribly weak and has very little prospects of getting stronger in the near future. Frankly, it is shameful that Iowa is not winning the West regularly. BTW, the one false start penalty on the 1/2 yard line on the first drive of the game in IC cost the Clones the game. A TD there and ISU wins the game and that doesn`t take into account many other mistakes that wouldn`t have happened with the experience and coaching of a 1st game. I don`t expect many here to understand game prep and coaching, but the ISU staff thrives on it.

Iowa has had stronger SOS last 2 years and 3 out of the last 5. Seriously I've posted this data in response to your false claim how ISU has one every year how many times now? Yet you've not shown any data that proves otherwise but you keep spewing your BS. As for your "if no penalty on 1 yard line we would have won." Ok Iowa fans can say we would have won by more on drive they didn't throw flag on obvious PI in the end zone on Fant. Coulda, woulda, shoulda the ISU losers motto.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other?date=2018-01-08
 
Iowa, once again, is gifted with very weak schedule. While Iowa State will go against ranked team after ranked team. For instance compare the two teams' schedules the next 4 weeks. Iowa fans get lulled into believing they are better than they actually are. Iowa then ends up with a good record, gets overmatched and pummeled in a bowl game.


4 straight losses to Iowa. 8 losses in the last 11 to Iowa. Bottom line: Iowa State is inferior to Iowa.
 
Ya, interestingly in looking at common opponents,

isu d held iowa offense to 13 points while, compared to iowa scoring 17 points against wisconsin.

And isu d held tcu to 17 points, compared to tcu scoring 28 against ohio state.

I think Iowa St. has the potential to be one of the best defensive teams in the Big 12.
 
There are a lot of bad defensive teams in the Big Ten. Maryland gave up 35 to Temple, Northwestern gave up 39 to Akron, Purdue gave up 40 to Mizzou, Rutgers gave up 55 to Kansas, Wisky gave up 24 to BYU, Penn State gave up 38 to Appy St. Heck, even Ohio State gave up 28 to TCU who could only muster 17 against ISU. There are some very good defenses in the Big Ten, but there are a bunch of poor ones too.

Rational posts like this are frowned upon on this board.
 
You can pick out individual games, but as a whole, the B10 conference plays better smash mouth defense than the B12 does.

Based on what, total scoring defense? You can't use that stat to compare defenses.

The Big 12 uses a high-tempo spread offense where the Big 10 is a ground and pound style. For example, Texas Tech is averaging 95 plays per game (52 pass attempts) where we only average 64 plays per game (25 pass attempts); that's 30% less plays to defend and half as many pass attempts!
 
Iowa, once again, is gifted with very weak schedule. While Iowa State will go against ranked team after ranked team. For instance compare the two teams' schedules the next 4 weeks. Iowa fans get lulled into believing they are better than they actually are. Iowa then ends up with a good record, gets overmatched and pummeled in a bowl game.
Ya, thats correct, also after 4 weeks we will hear they are being disrespected in the polls and should be ranked higher, how they will beat osu for da b1g championship, and also can beat alabama for national championship in da cfp. ;)
 
Ya, thats correct, also after 4 weeks we will hear they are being disrespected in the polls and should be ranked higher, how they will beat osu for da b1g championship, and also can beat alabama for national championship in da cfp. ;)

Wow epic fail. Difference between your attempt at humor about claiming stuff Iowa fans would say, which none of it has been said this year, is that ISU fans like yourself are ACTUALLY spewing the BS excuses. This thread is exhibit A. But nice try...

Also proper spelling and grammar is your friend. Try it sometime.
 
You can pick out individual games, but as a whole, the B10 conference plays better smash mouth defense than the B12 does.
I do not agree this year. The fact that the Big Ten has lost so many games to non-quality opponents shows that the league, as a whole, is not that great defensively THIS YEAR. In the past, I would agree, but there is a ton of bad defense from Rutgers to Indiana to Illinois to Northwestern and so on.
 
Wow epic fail. Difference between your attempt at humor about claiming stuff Iowa fans would say, which none of it has been said this year, is that ISU fans like yourself are ACTUALLY spewing the BS excuses. This thread is exhibit A. But nice try...

Also proper spelling and grammar is your friend. Try it sometime.
Ya, you may want to revisit da 2015 and 2002 seasons, deja vu ;)
 
Luckily for ISU that cancellation kept us from getting tape. Otherwise we'd have put up 40. Obviously.

Much as you're kidding here, the truth is...ISU likely benefited more from the "no tape" angle. Their offense is much more varied than Iowa's.

But...excuses are for losers...and clones. But, I repeat myself.
 
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Iowa, once again, is gifted with very weak schedule. While Iowa State will go against ranked team after ranked team. For instance compare the two teams' schedules the next 4 weeks. Iowa fans get lulled into believing they are better than they actually are. Iowa then ends up with a good record, gets overmatched and pummeled in a bowl game.
Clown fans love SOS when their team is 1-3. Iowa owns isu just deal with it.
 
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Ya, you may want to revisit da 2015 and 2002 seasons, deja vu ;)

Hey why don’t the clowns make a New Years Six Bowl before they throw rocks at Iowa’s performance.

Do we need to add USC to the list of teams isu needs to have fight their Iowa for them?
 
Ya, you may want to revisit da 2015 and 2002 seasons, deja vu ;)

Ya, thats correct, also after 4 weeks we will hear they are being disrespected in the polls and should be ranked higher, how they will beat osu for da b1g championship, and also can beat alabama for national championship in da cfp. ;)

How does 2002 and 2015 have anything to do with this idiotic post? You mention 4 weeks then bring up 2 seasons from the past??? And make claims few if any Iowa fans have made this year or years past. No one saying we would should be ranked before or after Wisc. loss this season. So ok 16 years ago lot of Iowa fans thought we could beat OSU. What's your point? Lot of college football analyst at the time thought they could too. In 15' OSU didn't even make the Big 10 title game, nice try.... In 02' Alabama sucked and even though we had a phenomenal year I didn't remember too many people thinking or posting anything about being better than Bama in 15'. So again great epic fail with your post.
 
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Ya, thats correct, also after 4 weeks we will hear they are being disrespected in the polls and should be ranked higher, how they will beat osu for da b1g championship, and also can beat alabama for national championship in da cfp. ;)
Link? Or just another clown fan spewing BS again?

Come on Nelie Clown, you can do it, you can do it, you can do it.
 
Much as you're kidding here, the truth is...ISU likely benefited more from the "no tape" angle. Their offense is much more varied than Iowa's.

But...excuses are for losers...and clones. But, I repeat myself.
Ya, that seems to go against da traditional coach speak that "teams improve the most from game 1 to game 2". ;)

Everyone knows iowa had da bigger advantage this year due to that, everyone is saying so ;)
 
Ya, interestingly in looking at common opponents,

isu d held iowa offense to 13 points while, compared to iowa scoring 17 points against wisconsin.

And isu d held tcu to 17 points, compared to tcu scoring 28 against ohio state.
Based on your idiot logic, the clones should cross their fingers that they don't have to play Army in a bowl game.
 
Ya, that seems to go against da traditional coach speak that "teams improve the most from game 1 to game 2". ;)

Everyone knows iowa had da bigger advantage this year due to that, everyone is saying so ;)

Reading comprehension not that good..eh Cy? My post specifically referred to the "tape" angle. Improvement between game 1 and 2 is another factor of course.

Still, you lost and you're making excuses. Why do clones do that sooooo much? I see other fan bases talk about coaching mistakes, missed opportunities and bad plays... clones bitch more about "getting screwed"..be it the officials, the weather, the "strong" conference they're in :rolleyes:...etc etc than any fan base out there. It makes you look bad.
 
Iowa had 2 years worth of game tape on ISU as did ISU on Iowa. 2nd game improvement is based upon your own players not the opposition. Lineups change from year to year and that is why the 1st game is so important.
Moron. You sat here and predicted a win despite not playing that first game anyways. Iowa lost their starting RB coming in, and had several starters that didn't get that first game either. Further, ISU had a 17th year QB coming back with your returning RB, and most of their defense. This excuse isn't valid. ISU is not as good as Iowa, it showed. Your offense, which you guys thought was going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good, just isn't.
 
Ya, that seems to go against da traditional coach speak that "teams improve the most from game 1 to game 2". ;)

Everyone knows iowa had da bigger advantage this year due to that, everyone is saying so ;)

Iowa had the advantage because our DL dominated the game. The talent difference between the Iowa DL and the isu OL wasn’t going to change because you did or ddin’t play SDSU.
 
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Iowa has had stronger SOS last 2 years and 3 out of the last 5. Seriously I've posted this data in response to your false claim how ISU has one every year how many times now? Yet you've not shown any data that proves otherwise but you keep spewing your BS. As for your "if no penalty on 1 yard line we would have won." Ok Iowa fans can say we would have won by more on drive they didn't throw flag on obvious PI in the end zone on Fant. Coulda, woulda, shoulda the ISU losers motto.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other?date=2018-01-08
This won’t be acceptable to clown fans. They will ignore anything that doesn’t fit their delusions.
 
But.....ISU *DID* have a game before playing Iowa. At least in Pollard's mind, because the ISU players who were suspended for a game were considered to have served their suspension and were reinstated for the Iowa game.

See how that logic works?
 
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