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Iowa State was 2-22 last yr...

ISU hasn't done anything, the year is far from over. Iowa sucks, but come on, at least wait for them to win something first...
 
Baylor on the road this year has been a much different team than at home. 12 point win over 5-7 ASU, 8 point win over 8-6 Oregon. Long way to go.
You just dropped your 24th straight Big 12 game.

Incarnate word and VCU covered as well.

Ponder that.
Yea, Baylor obviously sucks. 19 wins in a row. National champions. Yep they suck. Only got 61 first place votes this week (all of them). They are worthless.
 
Yea, Baylor obviously sucks. 19 wins in a row. National champions. Yep they suck. Only got 61 first place votes this week (all of them). They are worthless.
Did I say they sucked? I pointed out their performances on the road, to which your loss was one.
 
Isn’t is pretty remarkable with 7? They also kick off a player we badly wanted.
At the time. I don't think we want him now anymore then they do. It's funny I remember when he was like a soph in high school and his recruitment was blowing up, there were people saying he wasn't going to realize the high expectations that everyone had for him, and he wasn't a hard worker. I guess he's got a couple of years yet to prove everybody wrong IF he wants it bad enough.....
 
That remarkable D let the Clones down tonight. It was literally a pregame layup line the last 15 minutes of the game. If I counted correctly., Oklahoma made 13 made dunks or layups during that timeframe.
 
oklahoma was on fire in the second half of that game. They shot a ridiculous percentage from the field. isu D wasn't great, but I think that onslaught was at least as much about oklahoma just clicking. okie has plenty of talent, including the two brothers who transferred from eastern washington. One is the starting 5 for them. He'd be a massive upgrade if Iowa could have landed a guy like him.
 
Clowns lose to the refs again. Clown fans are just like Trump. Either isu wins or the game is stolen from them by the refs.

Just part of that 5 star culture they are always touting.
 
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73-53. Ponder that.
Why is it when the clowns win against the Hawks the win is all that matters but when the Hawks win all we hear from clown fans is excuses for why the win by Iowa didn’t really count or the clowns would have won if the refs hadn’t stolen the game from them?

Let me guess it is the 5 douche culture at isu?
 
oklahoma was on fire in the second half of that game. They shot a ridiculous percentage from the field. isu D wasn't great, but I think that onslaught was at least as much about oklahoma just clicking. okie has plenty of talent, including the two brothers who transferred from eastern washington. One is the starting 5 for them. He'd be a massive upgrade if Iowa could have landed a guy like him.

How hard is it to make layups? On fire!
 
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I want to make sure I have this right. When Iowa was winning football games with defense it is boring but isu winning basketball games 51-47 is exciting?

Don’t want clown fans to show themselves as hypocrites now do we? Must be time for clown fans to run away and hide for a while.
 
First time this year I've seen the Clones rattled. Defense definitely lapsed in the final minutes, but Sooners also hit some tough shots in addition to the bunnies. Big 12 is unquestionably the toughest league this year, and it doesn't get better for ISU very soon. Yesterday was the only one of the first six conference opponents that isn't ranked, and that will probably change tomorrow.

At Kansas Tuesday, home against Texas Saturday, at Texas Tech the following Tuesday.

As for the free throws, it wasn't a particularly bad homer job, certainly can't blame the loss on it. Back in the day, one of Johnny Orr's poorer teams played at Kansas State and didn't shoot a single free throw. I thought yesterday was going to tie that dubious record, but with 1:08 to play in the game, Kunc went to the line.
 
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When the Hawks shot very few FT’s in lames we didn’t hear a peep from clown fans about the officiating. Now the shoe is on the other foot it is just another screw job by the refs that cost isu the game.

Don’t ever change clown fans. Not that I believe you ever will. Same as the little bro syndrome towards Iowa. Just a part of your DNA.
 
Blaming officials for a loss is a loser's mentality. Some (certainly not all) on CF are taking this approach. I refuse to do this. ISU simply didn't play well on either end of the floor last night. Why is anyone's guess, but you have to look the play of OU. THEY were the better defensive team yesterday. Kudos to them. I hope ISU can steal 2-3 road games this year, but I'm not sure where they will come from right now. My expectations were so low this season - if they could somehow get to 10 wins, I would've been very happy. Being 13-2 is awesome, but they obviously have work to do. Hope for the best this week vs KU and Texa$. I wouldn't be surprised if they lose both games.
 
Blaming officials for a loss is a loser's mentality. Some (certainly not all) on CF are taking this approach. I refuse to do this. ISU simply didn't play well on either end of the floor last night. Why is anyone's guess, but you have to look the play of OU. THEY were the better defensive team yesterday. Kudos to them. I hope ISU can steal 2-3 road games this year, but I'm not sure where they will come from right now. My expectations were so low this season - if they could somehow get to 10 wins, I would've been very happy. Being 13-2 is awesome, but they obviously have work to do. Hope for the best this week vs KU and Texa$. I wouldn't be surprised if they lose both games.
Blaming the refs for a loss is long held tradition of the isu fan base. Just how you all roll.

What I can’t figure out is why clown fans were so bored by watching the Hawks win 10 games in football but are head over heals “excited” by watching a 51-47 basketball game .
 
Heryfan. Be careful with the "all" when you refer to any fan base. ISU's fan base is no different than Iowa, or anyone else. There is a wide range of intellect, etc.

To answer your question, I think (and I could be wrong) that playing really good defense in basketball creates a lot of opportunities to score with every possession (about 50-60 per game).

Playing really good defense in football generally results in a low scoring, slow-paced game with limited big plays. Now, once in a while the defense can create a turnover that leads to a quick score and/or short field. Iowa did this well this past season.

I guess it's just the difference between the two sports. Hard to really make a fair comparison. I personally like the 17-14 football games rather than a 38-35 shootout, but I am just one person and don't represent the entire ISU fan base. Playing good defense in either sport does reflect an attitude of hard work, discipline, and team work that I think most (not all) people like.
 
Heryfan. Be careful with the "all" when you refer to any fan base. ISU's fan base is no different than Iowa, or anyone else. There is a wide range of intellect, etc.

To answer your question, I think (and I could be wrong) that playing really good defense in basketball creates a lot of opportunities to score with every possession (about 50-60 per game).

Playing really good defense in football generally results in a low scoring, slow-paced game with limited big plays. Now, once in a while the defense can create a turnover that leads to a quick score and/or short field. Iowa did this well this past season.

I guess it's just the difference between the two sports. Hard to really make a fair comparison. I personally like the 17-14 football games rather than a 38-35 shootout, but I am just one person and don't represent the entire ISU fan base. Playing good defense in either sport does reflect an attitude of hard work, discipline, and team work that I think most (not all) people like.
Really good defense in football results in turnovers and quick scores as well. No different. But thank god we have clown fans here to tell us how it really is.
 
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Agreed on turnovers + quick scores. I think the difference is there are 40 seconds between plays in FB - its just a slower pace, whereas it is continuous action (minus FTs + fouls) in Bball.

Just my opinion, no need to hurl insults. Be nice.
 
Agreed on turnovers + quick scores. I think the difference is there are 40 seconds between plays in FB - its just a slower pace, whereas it is continuous action (minus FTs + fouls) in Bball.

Just my opinion, no need to hurl insults. Be nice.
No I get it. Wining with defense is football is boring and winning with defense in basketball is exciting because isu fans say so.
 
Ok, whatever you say. I'm guessing a few (not all) Hawk fans (or any fanbase) might agree with me.
 
Baylor on the road this year has been a much different team than at home. 12 point win over 5-7 ASU, 8 point win over 8-6 Oregon. Long way to go.
You just dropped your 24th straight Big 12 game.

Incarnate word and VCU covered as well.

Ponder that.
Actually I think they broke that string with Tech.
 
Does ISU dip back into the transfer well after the season? How many guys are gone after one season in Ames?
 
Does ISU dip back into the transfer well after the season? How many guys are gone after one season in Ames?
I don't know if they know that yet. They have three high school graduates committed. Brockington is the only one I have heard so far not likely to return for 2022-2023, but sure there will be more. Who knows on what younger players might transfer in this climate. I would think they might be looking for a big yet.
 
I don't know if they know that yet. They have three high school graduates committed. Brockington is the only one I have heard so far not likely to return for 2022-2023, but sure there will be more. Who knows on what younger players might transfer in this climate. I would think they might be looking for a big yet.
Pretty sure Brockington won’t get a 7th year.
 
I don't know if they know that yet. They have three high school graduates committed. Brockington is the only one I have heard so far not likely to return for 2022-2023, but sure there will be more. Who knows on what younger players might transfer in this climate. I would think they might be looking for a big yet.
He can come back though, for that COVID year.
 
Refs steel another game from the clowns. Sun rising in the east, death, taxes and the refs steel games from isu.

Only true constants in life.
 
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That was a helluva game. Cyclones play tenacious defense. Unlike another team we know.
 
Heryfan. Be careful with the "all" when you refer to any fan base. ISU's fan base is no different than Iowa, or anyone else. There is a wide range of intellect, etc.

To answer your question, I think (and I could be wrong) that playing really good defense in basketball creates a lot of opportunities to score with every possession (about 50-60 per game).

Playing really good defense in football generally results in a low scoring, slow-paced game with limited big plays. Now, once in a while the defense can create a turnover that leads to a quick score and/or short field. Iowa did this well this past season.

I guess it's just the difference between the two sports. Hard to really make a fair comparison. I personally like the 17-14 football games rather than a 38-35 shootout, but I am just one person and don't represent the entire ISU fan base. Playing good defense in either sport does reflect an attitude of hard work, discipline, and team work that I think most (not all) people like.
If isu’s awesome defense really resulted in quick scores isu would score more than 51 or 60 points in a game. It isn’t like isu is all of a sudden pressing like Dr. Tom’s teams at Iowa where forcing turnovers is resulting in quick and easy points. Not sure an Iowa team during his run ever scored only 51 points in a game.
 
If isu’s awesome defense really resulted in quick scores isu would score more than 51 or 60 points in a game. It isn’t like isu is all of a sudden pressing like Dr. Tom’s teams at Iowa where forcing turnovers is resulting in quick and easy points. Not sure an Iowa team during his run ever scored only 51 points in a game.
Agree but when you play defense like Iowa State you are competitive in every game, especially on the road. Defense travels. And it’s not always about getting turnovers. Kansas was having a hard time even getting the ball in bounds in the last 6-7 minutes. Cyclones are not a great shooting team which also doesn’t help.
 
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Agree but when you play defense like Iowa State you are competitive in every game, especially on the road. Defense travels. And it’s not always about getting turnovers. Kansas was having a hard time even getting the ball in bounds in the last 6-7 minutes. Cyclones are not a great shooting team which also doesn’t help.
I agree with you. This is more a shot at clown fans that were constantly crying about Iowa winning football games with defense and special teams. Calling it the most boring football ever. Of course now that they are doing the same thing with basketball all of a sudden winning with defense is “exciting”.
 
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If isu’s awesome defense really resulted in quick scores isu would score more than 51 or 60 points in a game. It isn’t like isu is all of a sudden pressing like Dr. Tom’s teams at Iowa where forcing turnovers is resulting in quick and easy points. Not sure an Iowa team during his run ever scored only 51 points in a game.
ISU is averaging 70ppg against P5 teams this year - but I know you're just a troll.
 
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