If so does it look like a transfer situation?
(25% serious question - will Cook move back to QB if depth becomes an issue?)
(25% serious question - will Cook move back to QB if depth becomes an issue?)
Is it true that QB Boyle didn't travel with team to Nebraska?
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Bummer if Boyle leaves but I could totally see it, he didn't make it as a WR, and isn't going to make it as a QB. I.m.o the order would go NS, PM, walk on, Cook. I think it's safe to say Weigers and Boyle go.
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no inside information, but my guess is Cook's move to TE is permanent.
no need to sound the alarms at this point in the season, we have Stanley and Mansell and the off season to add depth. Its not ideal to have just 3 scholarship QB's in the event a couple transfer this off-season, but wouldn't be unheard of and I suspect if that were the case we would look to bring on a couple walk-ons.
I think it would benefit both sides if he did transfer.
I guess if Weigers and Boyle transfer, and were limited at QB then we had better develope a wildcat QB for emergencies. I would think if we were short, that Cook would stay at TE but maybe get some reps in practice as an emergency QB.
They do have a walk-on QB, Ryan Schimdt (sp?) and he was the 3rd QB at Neb.
I too wonder if Cook would move back to QB, if both Weigers and Boyle leave. I don't see him getting much PT at TE either with TJ & Fant, plus Beyer & then they have a couple TE's that are used for blocking. They all seem to be ahead of Cook at TE.
I too wonder if Cook would move back to QB, if both Weigers and Boyle leave. I don't see him getting much PT at TE either with TJ & Fant, plus Beyer & then they have a couple TE's that are used for blocking. They all seem to be ahead of Cook at TE.
Bring in a QB in the 2018 class and all is fine. If you're in the situation where it's down to the 3rd QB, you're toast anyway.
Lets face it, with the exception of a few teams, if your starting QB goes down you are going to have problems. There are not many backups that will sustain the teams level of success, there is always a drop in performance and wins.
When they signed Boyle I thought he was a Safety or maybe RB/WR. I don't think he has the arm talent for QB. Thought at Safety he may get a shot at the NFL. If he wants to go play QB at a read option school, I can't blame him.
Also thought Wiegers may look at a MAC school for playing time
When they signed Boyle I thought he was a Safety or maybe RB/WR. I don't think he has the arm talent for QB. Thought at Safety he may get a shot at the NFL. If he wants to go play QB at a read option school, I can't blame him.
Also thought Wiegers may look at a MAC school for playing time
If Boyle truly wants to play QB there is no future in that for him at Iowa.
If Weigers wants to play I would think he'd go the grad transfer route(assuming he graduates this spring).
Maybe both are satisfied with their part on the team; not everyone plays and plenty of guys stay with programs until the end.
I have no problem with a kid wanting to go elsewhere for PT, though.
If Weigers wants to play I would think he'd go the grad transfer route(assuming he graduates this spring).
Maybe both are satisfied with their part on the team; not everyone plays and plenty of guys stay with programs until the end.
I have no problem with a kid wanting to go elsewhere for PT, though.
We have two walk ons already in Herron a Fr from Chicago, and Schmidt a So. from Linn Mar. I doubt we would bring in more walk ons. There does seem to be a push right now for a QB, as we have three fairly recent offers out, not counting Duggan, (who I think is heading elsewhere), so someone may be hitting the road.
Has he even played a regular season snap? Why would you be thinking shot at the NFL?
Why do you think it 'safe' to say? What information or experience are you basing that on?
I understand your argument, but where's the guarantee that the 2018 QB wouldn't be a flop. How about development and time to learn the system, is that not important? Is one scholarship going to a QB in this class really going to destroy this team's potential next year? I do think not having a good QB in the future will destroy any chance of winning in the future.
I think some of you don't understand that signing a QB today isn't meant to be short term solution for the next year or two. It's to prepare the team for a QB in the future that has chemistry with the receivers and knows the offense. The more options gives Iowa a better chance at a good one. Unless you're happy with a mediocre QB, after all it isn't an important position...
Wiegers graduates this semester and can be a grad transfer. Probably wants to go somewhere he can play. Small chance he stays I guess.
Outside of Rudock Iowa doesn't have much of a history of taking grad transfers or losing grad transfers. Typically, from what I've read, Grad transfer QB's are QB's that were starters at one time and thus have proven they can play at a high level at a D1 school (like Rudock). There aren't many who grad transfer down a division or two just to play. I don't think he wants to play at Wartburg and I don't think there are many D1 schools lining up to lure him to their school. I don't see him leaving when he is an injury away from playing for what will probably be a ranked team, but I could be wrong. There are numerous sites projecting grad transfers and numerous players who have already announced, but I haven't seen his name anywhere, just on this message board.
I hope he stays. We don't know what position the injury bug will bite next year.
Grad transferring in football hasn't been a big thing but has been picking up steam the last couple of years. Iowa has had two recent grad transfers... Rudock and Cody Sokol (who transferred to a lesser school to play) And as far as taking grad transfers they have taken 3 in the last 2 years. There are plenty of QBs who transfer down to play who weren't former starters.
If Weigers had already been successful at Iowa like Rudock was and was walking into another big school with a great chance to start, I'd say he goes. If he was a clear number 3 like Sokol who just wanted to play, then I'd say he goes. But he's right in between, the clear number two that wouldn't likely walk into a better situation than he'd be if Stanley went down here, so I'll guess he stays.
Oh, that's right, they brought in the punter a couple years ago and brought in Quarells and Butler this year. And I forgot about Sokol, good catch. So maybe they a starting to build a 'history' of it I understand it hasn't been a big thing and that it's picking up steam, I just didn't find a lot of info on QB's transferring down and how far down. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I just don't see it.
Perhaps but Iowa is all in on him. If they don’t snag him it won’t be for lack of trying.
Maurice Fleming also transferred to West Virginia, and Derrick Mitchell transferred to Texas Tech (didn't stay and went to Incarnate Word instead so really wouldn't have needed to graduate first to drop to FCS anyway).
If I may throw out a name that could be available as a transfer---- Hunter Johnson- a current true freshman on Clemson's roster that is set to have a couple more elite 5 star QBs coming into the program. Clemson is set with Kelly Bryant as next year's QB and potential Heisman candidate. #2 QB seems to be Zerrick Cooper. Hunter is not going to see much PT next year unless the injury bug hits the QBs at Clemson.
Why and who is Hunter Johnson? Hunter is a 6'3" 220 Pro set QB from Brownsburg, IN who signed a LOI in December of 2016 and enrolled early at Clemson. Hunter was a high school teammate of..... Toks Akinribade. The chances Hunter will transfer are high. Iowa could use a high level QB challenge Mansell as Iowa's true depth is weakening. Hunter may consider Purdue as it is close to home should he transfer but his style is not a good fit there nor is HC Jeff Brohm likely to stay over the next two years.
I'd be contacting any sources I had in Indy region to see if Hunter is on the move. Very talented QB who just in a very deep filled program.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/hunter-johnson-1110
Why and who is Hunter Johnson? Hunter is a 6'3" 220 Pro set QB from Brownsburg, IN who signed a LOI in December of 2016 and enrolled early at Clemson. Hunter was a high school teammate of..... Toks Akinribade. The chances Hunter will transfer are high. Iowa could use a high level QB challenge Mansell as Iowa's true depth is weakening. Hunter may consider Purdue as it is close to home should he transfer but his style is not a good fit there nor is HC Jeff Brohm likely to stay over the next two years.
I'd be contacting any sources I had in Indy region to see if Hunter is on the move. Very talented QB who just in a very deep filled program.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/hunter-johnson-1110
Sounds like a guy with options. If I were him, I wouldn't transfer to a place with an established true junior starting QB and a RS FR in the same class as I and a year in the system that I would have to beat out.
There is no guarantee that the 2018 QB won't be a flop. I don't think a 2018 QB will play in 2018. If they do play, we are in deep doo-doo. One QB should be signed per class, 2 for special exceptions. You sign one per class, give them a year or 2 to develop and over time you get 1-2 who can play and the others move on. Rinse, repeat.
Haha, we're saying the same thing. For some reason I was thinking this incoming class was the 2017 class, and the next one was the 2018. I thought you were saying get a QB commit next year and skip this year, clearly you're not.
dbrocket...... If Stanley improves like I think he will next year (ABT QB) , he could be a potential 2 rounder QB, maybe late first. He has the prototypical NFL QB body for the pro set style of play. His arm strength is better than average. He will have started two years and faced a lot of decent defenses. Hard to say a franchise QB especially when playing Iowa's conservative ground first offense but the pros are about projecting college to NFL transition.
Maybe you have better knowledge of Mansell's progress but I have heard Mansell is a little oversold on height. Next Drew Brees ... not sure. Anyway, Hunter Johnson can probably find a home at any non-top 8 CFP schools and beat out most current roster competition.
Just my opinion.
who's the guy at Texas tech?
So we have Sokol at LA Tech, Shimonek at Texas Tech and Rudock at Michigan.
Now, likely, Wiegers starting somewhere else. Pretty good level of QB recruits at Iowa
That would be a perfect fit for him and, for his sake, should have maybe went that route to begin with if he wanted to play QB. I don't see how Iowa thought he would be a QB. but, in their mind, they probably ACTUALLY saw him as a safety but didn't want to squash his dream and let him make the decision, thinking he would see the writing on the wall and move himself. He didn't.
Think the kid can play QB at a decently high level, just not suited for our offense. Personally though, I would like to see us recruit QBs with a little more dual threat possibilities and actually use that in the game plan. Our best numbers on offense usually revolve around a QB with decent wheels and the ability to run when needed.
