Yeah, they trot out the Clinton is responsible equally as Bush ignoring the fact that knowing what he knew at the time did not start a full scale war of choice. The measured military actions taken by Clinton were keeping Iraq in check.
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Yeah, they trot out the Clinton is responsible equally as Bush ignoring the fact that knowing what he knew at the time did not start a full scale war of choice. The measured military actions taken by Clinton were keeping Iraq in check.
Both bush Sec. of State Colin Powell and Nat. Sec. Advisor Condoleeza Rice admitted in the months after the election that the sanctions had kept Saddam from obtaining WMD's and rebuilding his military
Bill Clinton had a chance (and admitted) that he had the opportunity to take Bin Laden out, but didn't. Bin Laden's planning for 9/11 took place on Clinton's watch.......the crappy intelligence took place on Bill Clinton's watch. And yes, Bush protected us from invasion.......now we are being invaded....being placed in harm's way by Obama, who has opened up our borders......created ISIS that some say are now in the US.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/shocking-audio-proves-bill-clinton-failed-prevent-911-attacks/
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're familiar with the concept of checks and balances. That means you realize Bush did not unilaterally send us into war. 82 House Democrats voted in favor of the war resolution. 29 Senate Democrats, including our current Vice President and our current Secretary of State as well as the current frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, voted in favor of the resolution.
It is extremely disingenuous to lay all of the blame at Bush's feet.
In reality, yes. My post was pointing out the world according to Barack Obama. Nearly every single day of the 2012 campaign he declared that he had ended the war. He brought the troops home. Things were relatively stable in Iraq and he never once missed an opportunity to take credit for ending the war.
Then things went a little haywire. Car bombings, beheadings, mass executions, and such. ISIS started rampaging through large swaths of Iraq and suddenly Obama changed his mind and decided that it was Bush's fault that we had to pull our troops out of there.
No, it isn't. While too many Dems voted the wrong way, many - including John Kerry - advocated for more negotiation before any use of force. Kerry ripped the bush admin the same night they launched the offensive. It was the bush administration talking about "mushroom clouds" and selling the idea that aluminum tubes equaled a resurgent nuclear weapon program. It was the bush admin that claimed they KNEW where the WMD's were. It was the bush admin that sold the claims of Curveball - a man who was called a liar by his own friends and who was NEVER interviewed by any US intel agency.
Because one leadership team pulled the trigger and the other exercised restraint. That's called judgment. The lengths the "party of personal responsibility" goes to, given all we know today, to try to avoid blame for the greatest blunder in American foreign policy shows they haven't learned a thing and can't be trusted to lead.
So fault him for taking credit for that which was set in motion before he was elected. Fine. But Iraq belongs to the administration that broke it.
Kerry says whatever he thinks is politically expedient at any given time. He has straddled the fence so much on this issue that he probably has splinters in his scrotum.
March 2003, around the time of the invasion: “It appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism. If so, the only exit strategy is victory. This is our common mission and the world’s cause. We’re in this together. We want to complete the mission while safeguarding our troops, avoiding innocent civilian casualties, disarming Saddam Hussein, and engaging the community of nations to rebuild Iraq,”
May 2003, shortly after the fall of Baghdad, when things seemed to be going pretty well and the insurgency had not yet become a major problem: “I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him.”
When things are going well, Kerry wants to be associated with being a part of the action. When things get rough, he likes to pretend he had nothing to do with it.
Yes and saying the war was illegal after congress authorized it is pretty rich too.
You really ? Nah you can't be that......oh maybe you can. Trying to be the spinmaster.
