Given the league they play in ... they have some developed depth. Their SS Ellsworth seemed pretty darn good to me.
ISU game the key.
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I will definitely be looking at this game as a big litmus test for our offense, especially the run game. Iowa State was able to stop the run effectively and we stalled out a lot on offense. Linderbaum is a big question mark - if he can move Lima consistently and the guards stop penetration on our zone blocking plays it is going to bode very well for us as the season goes along. I also expect ISU to try to blitz a lot in pass situations - I will be eager to see if we do well at picking that up. This is good preparation for teams like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nebraska, which may make the difference between a Holiday bowl and a B1G championship.
On defense I expect that Iowa really won't have a problem stopping that - our talent advantage is arguably greater this year than last. But it will be good practice to go against a dual threat QB. Ultimately, if this game is close or Iowa State wins it will be a bad sign. We're not going to win the West if we lose vs ISU. However, I do think this year we win by a lot. Going to predict 35-13 - they just don't have elite talent where it counts to challenge us this year. They already have nightmares about Eppy...
On defense I expect that Iowa really won't have a problem stopping that - our talent advantage is arguably greater this year than last. But it will be good practice to go against a dual threat QB. Ultimately, if this game is close or Iowa State wins it will be a bad sign. We're not going to win the West if we lose vs ISU. However, I do think this year we win by a lot. Going to predict 35-13 - they just don't have elite talent where it counts to challenge us this year. They already have nightmares about Eppy...
PSU, Purdue, Michigan, Wisconsin. Any of those wins was more important than the ISU game. Did you enjoy getting your asses handed to you by Connecticut at home? How about losing your last four in a row and getting mauled in Boise?
Clowns gonna clown
When you lose yo UNi as much as isu does losing to UConn is no big deal.
The main thing the ISU game is the key to...is keeping those douches off of our board for several weeks.
Not really, if the Hawks win they flock here to tell us why it doesn’t count due to their endless chain of excuses. If we lose they camp out here night and day telling us how the world has changed and isu has taken over.
The biggest key is Iowa getting into a groove. It is Iowa’s third game and only the second for isu. With the extra game, Iowa will have smoothed out any glitches in the offense. If Iowa comes out in a different defense it will throw isu off.
Hey look. An ISU troll makes a post saying their game is the most important so he can run to cyclown fanatic and say Iowa thinks it’s the most important game
The Hawks have won 3 in a row in Jack Trice, relax. It will likely be a close game, but I am picking the Hawkeyes !
Best to ignore clown fans chirping about missing their first game last year. It has been the go to excuse for almost a year now.
Do you see the irony in your post and presence here? (of course not). You're approaching a clone-like lack of self-awareness.
Let's start with some fundamentals. Anybody who refers to themselves as a "legend" (unless they're Ali, Nicklaus, Jordan...) immediately registers on the douche bag scale. (If you're still confused, check your screen name)
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The best player in the DB unit is Greg Eisworth who was one of the top tackle leaders on last season's team. Braxton Lewis will be in one of the other Safety Spots and led the team in INT's last Season. The 3rd Safety spot will come down to either Amechie Walker who converted to Safety from WR last Season but is considered the 2nd fastest player in the team behind only Kene Nwangwu, or Rice Transfer Justin Bickham who led Rice in PBU's. The CB spots will be Datrone Young and Anthony Johnson who both played well in the games they had to step in and play last season. The Coaching staff says Young and Johnson are the best young Cover Corner Duos they have ever coached. It is an above average group who is ranked towards the top of the Big 12 DB Groups.
Long time ago but there were articles and with the BCS metrics still would have had OSU ahead of Iowa with that win to play against Miami. So in the end even if Iowa had won that game would've ended up in the same bowl game.
Yes they were. Those 2 are the ones I think the defense will miss the most from the defensive losses.
Great point. You look at the bowl game and the last 3-4 regular season games. Those 2 were the offense. Look how they struggled with out Montgomery the rest of the Baylor game after he got kicked out and 1st half vs Texas. KState and bowl game those 2 had the bulk of the yards and put up massive numbers. Teams won't load up the box without Montgomery now and they lose the safety blanket of just throwing it up and let Butler go up and grab it as he did multiple times last year.
Yes please - I'll take that in a heartbeat. B1G champs - W's over Mich, Wisky, NW, Nebby, Minny & PU?
But, I don't see it.
Montgomery will be much harder to replace than Butler. The latter had some spectacular grabs and some critical ones, but he also had more than his share of drops. Montgomery got yards that weren't there, which is not going to happen this year if the OL isn't better than it was last year. Montgomery also only lost two fumbles in two years ..... and FWIW, replays on both indicated they weren't lost fumbles.
The key to ISU's team this year will be the OL. The defense should be very good. The skill positions are not a cause for concern. The placekicking is OK, the punting is not.
Actually, depth is an issue this year. I think the two starting corners (Young and Johnson) are going to be good but after that it's a bit of a crapshoot. Eisworth is very good at safety and Lewis or the Rice transfer will fill the other spot and be fine.
They might want to watch our 1st 2 games before deciding what they want to do
They hawks don't play anybody with a pulse the first two weeks, I highly doubt they will show any wrinkles to prepare for in the first two games do you?
You're right and both were in the bowl games last 2 years. Pretty impressive stat. Even though the one vs Memphis even as someone cheering against ISU thought was a BS call. As a Bears fan I was ecstatic they got Montgomery. Rewatching Iowa game and other games he played in he was so good of turning a negative yard gain back to a 1-2 yard gain or when you thought you had him stopped for no gain getting those 3-4 yards after contact. Those runs don't show up in the highlights but stuff like that keeps drives going and so valuable to an offense. Plus one reason Bears wanted him was he is also a very capable receiver.
This. The game may illustrate the value of a playmaking QB/offense.
Purdy may have more turnovers but more than compensate for them
but making key plays at critical points. In the meantime, our offense is carefully stringing together another series of 3 and outs.
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Could you list the legit defenses Purdy had to play against last year? Iowa and TCU were easily the best defenses ISU played last year. He didn't play against either of them.
This might be the smartest clone fan in the world. We appreciate your support but your Iowa outlook while appreciated, might be a bit optimistic. That being said, thanks for believing.
These are the years that State steps up and stings us.
We’re looking down the road at a Big10 West Championship. We think we’re a bit better than them.
And then they prove that they’re more motivated and want it more.
Buckle down guys. It’s going to be a war. 3-4 plays will make the difference between a 7 pt loss and a 10 point win.
We’re looking down the road at a Big10 West Championship. We think we’re a bit better than them.
And then they prove that they’re more motivated and want it more.
Buckle down guys. It’s going to be a war. 3-4 plays will make the difference between a 7 pt loss and a 10 point win.
So if ISU wins this year, I assume we wont hear any complaints about ISU having a bye week before Iowa game?
We won't hear any complaints about ISU not playing a game due to weather. If that does prove to be the case, Drake is chomping at the bit for another shot at the clowns.
I am not worried about isu having a bye week. It won’t have an impact. isu could easily win regardless. Now on the other hand if you don’t it may be a while as isu loses a ton after this year on both sides of the mall.
Well, not sure what legit defenses are, but 6 of 7 Big XII bowl game opponents (Alabama, Cal, Georgia, Missouri, Syracuse, Washington St) were held below their season scoring average.
You wont hear me making excuses because I promise I wont come to a Cyclone forum for any reason. Trolling another team's board is pathetic.
With how amped up players get before the CyHawk game, I don’t necessarily see having two weeks to prepare for it as a huge (if any) advantage. State pretty much knows what the Hawks are gonna do anyways
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