ISU should be 6 point favorite next Saturday
- Thread starter Phenomenally Frantastic
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Yeah, were so insecure, that is why were are on the Cyclone Forum....er, Hawkeye forum.
It is fun exposing the not real sharp. If you want more privacy on a "Rivals " board, then pay the subscription to the the lounge. It really is that simple.
What is fun is watching clone fans ignore facts that show why they and isu are consistently laughed at.
I think we are talking about different strategies. In my case, the goal is to have something positive happen. If I bet on the Hawks straight up, I either win my bet or ISU wins the game.
Even if your statement above is accepted as true, that doesn't say much about their ability as college football players now. Recruit rankings estimate future potential, while what is being discussed is current ability. College football is full of players who have overachieved or underachieved their recruiting rankings.
Getting back on point though, anyone who thinks they can judge the strength of these two teams based on the weekend's results is crazy. Both teams put in about equal performances against two FBS teams, neither of which anyone really knows how good they are. We'll know on October 3rd how Illinois State and UNI compare, but that doesn't do us much good right now. As I see it, this game is in Ames so advantage Iowa State. Iowa had a much better year last year and a higher ranked recruiting class, so advantage Iowa. But Iowa State beat Iowa head-to-head last year, so advantage Iowa State. Everything else is just speculation.
As for the betting line, I'd love to see a historical record for how the teams have done against the line in this game (and basketball as well). I've always thought that with its larger fan base, the line skews towards Iowa, and my guess would be that Iowa State does very well in this game against the line. Now, as a fan of Iowa State, that's meaningless. But if I were a gambler, that would be interesting information. I suspect that if you took Iowa State every year for a long period of time, you'd come out very well. But I'm not a gambler, and I'm too lazy to do the homework just out of curiosity. It could be that I'm way off.
Why would anyone in their right mind do a private bet of that much money for a worse line than they can get from a casino? He said what he thinks the line should be. But that's completely different from saying he's willing to book bets at that line despite a better line being available to him.
If I think a stock should be valued at $20/share and its currently available on the market at $18/share, why would I go offer $19.99/share in a private transaction? That makes no sense.
Actually 100, you are the one getting laughed at even by hawk fans. It really is comic relief watching you go spastic!
Because that is what the clone fan who started the thread was shooting off his mouth about. He was laughed at right away but kept at it so I offered to make a bet.
Then again I have never said clone fans are rational.
If I bet ISU +6, then
- if ISU wins the game, then I win my bet (I'm an Iowa fan so this is arguably a win)
- if Iowa wins the game by more than 6, then I lose my bet but Iowa wins so I'm happy
- if Iowa wins by less than 6 I'm doubly happy because Iowa wins and ISU covers
Don't confuse clone fans with simple straight forward logic. It always trips them up.
So, paying to listen and respond to morons will make me sharp? Oh dude, you made me laugh. Thrill me again with your superior intellect. LOL And who said anything about privacy, your the one trolling around here. I could care less what they say on the clone board.
It is funny how when I act like clone fans that is totally unacceptable yet clone fans when given the chance always refuse to call out the exact behavior on clone fan web sites.
Why is that?
Exactly, who would be the designated clone fan who will refuse to discuss how isu and its' fans act?
False... I know a player who was a 3 year starter on your offensive line. He told me flat out that he would rather go 1-11 and beat Iowa then he would go 11-1 and lose to Iowa.
He said almost word for word... "I don't care if we lose all our games as long as we beat Iowa".
He also added that Iowa week was different than any other week in practice. Said they have a special hatred for Iowa.
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I know a player who was a 4 year starter on your offensive line and he said the same thing about Iowa State. Said they only care about the ISU game and if they won that the season was a success regardless of what else happened.
One of the Iowa players was quoted a few years ago as saying Iowa worked on ISU in the spring and in the fall, even when it wasn't the next game up. I've never seen an ISU player say something comparable (although it's entirely possible).
In any case, one of the ironic things about this mantra is that the people chanting it don't understand the implications of what they're saying when they claim ISU only wins because it tries harder.
Which is why Iowa has played in so many bowl games as opposed to isu.
Naw must ignore that because clone fans say so. At least give us a SOS argument. I am still waiting for SOS to equate to post season success for the Texas Ten. In fact it doesn't matter if it is football or MBB the Texas Ten SOS doesn't match their pitiful post season performance the last several seasons.
But do tell us how it really is clone fans. Always good for some laughs.
Well Iowa is guaranteed at least one bowl game every year in September when they get to play ISU so yeah they should have more. ISU has to win 6 games to get to one which doesn't happen often
Iowa's bowls tend to be played in January. Something little bro has yet to experience.
Just one more reason.
Last 4 seasons Bowl Records: Big Ten is 13-21, Big XII is 15-15. Big XII is 6-2 head-to-head. So, you're right he Big XII hasn't been great but the Big 10 hasn't been knocking out of the park either. I think he Big 10 is trending up though and is stronger right now.
The Big Ten has done better relative to their conference ranking and when you look at the NCAA tourney it is even more significant.
You mean Iowa gets to play in more than one bowl game each season while ISU struggles to play in one? How can that NOT make Iowa better than Iowa State!!
Thanks CyCity! Well done!
He won't be here to tell you he is wrong. He is probably off somewhere bitching about the stupidest end of a first half in the history of football. He's not a generally happy guy it seems.
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