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J. Brock story
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Here are the facts we know just to clear up some of the nonsense in this thread:
Iowa was Brock's 1st P5 offer and he was #1 on their board for a long time.
Iowa found Goodson this early spring and really liked him. Brock and Goodson were 1A and 1B for quite a while after that. Iowa would have taken both at that time.
Iowa took in Sergeant from Iowa Western. That changed the numbers game at RB in the 2019 class. Iowa had room for 1 more RB at that point.
Goodson had been committed to Iowa for 3-4 weeks before his announcement.
After Goodson's commitment, Iowa was full at RB for 2019 and cancelled Brock's Official Visit. Purdue also cancelled Brock's official visit. (Rumor has it that Brock was stringing along schools that weren't in the running just for a free weekend vacation.)
According to Brock, ND was too late to the party to be seriously considered. ND got a RB commit just after offering Brock. So who knows if/how long Brock's ND offer was committable?
Brock is going to commit to a school that Iowa plays every year.
I think he could really flourish at NW. I hope he picks ISU.
Iowa was Brock's 1st P5 offer and he was #1 on their board for a long time.
Iowa found Goodson this early spring and really liked him. Brock and Goodson were 1A and 1B for quite a while after that. Iowa would have taken both at that time.
Iowa took in Sergeant from Iowa Western. That changed the numbers game at RB in the 2019 class. Iowa had room for 1 more RB at that point.
Goodson had been committed to Iowa for 3-4 weeks before his announcement.
After Goodson's commitment, Iowa was full at RB for 2019 and cancelled Brock's Official Visit. Purdue also cancelled Brock's official visit. (Rumor has it that Brock was stringing along schools that weren't in the running just for a free weekend vacation.)
According to Brock, ND was too late to the party to be seriously considered. ND got a RB commit just after offering Brock. So who knows if/how long Brock's ND offer was committable?
Brock is going to commit to a school that Iowa plays every year.
I think he could really flourish at NW. I hope he picks ISU.
I wish man, I'm not as good as I once was.
I think you guys get the point. There was a long period of time where Brock was THE priority at running back.
It's actually a big thing on Twitter right now. Austan Blythe is engaged in a back and forth about what style is better.
I also saw somewhere that Hall contacted Iowa to see if they had room at RB. Iowa told Hall they were full. A week later he committed to ISU.
then he's not committed.
I should stop for a second???? The thread was about iowa until you and your other clone buddies came on here, no pal you should stop. Your post had nothing to do with iowa, you stated how the future looked bright at RB for ISU. We don’t give a shot dude, stop wasting our time. If you are embarrassed by the amount of scholarships your school gives out, don’t blame me for that.
Again, people stating things as fact. "Goodson was committed for 3-4 weeks before his announcement." He may have been. How do we know that for a fact?
The Juco counts against the 18 class. Had no effect on what they could or couldn't take this year. The body of visual clues points to something souring between Brock and the staff. You don't tell a player of his caliber that you no longer have room for him unless you found something bad there. I won't make any guesses what it was. I will wait for Blair and Tom to let us know what actually went down.
It pisses me off to see fans who drooled over the prospect of a kid coming here resort to sour grapes. My favorite one in this thread was "he fits ISU's system better." Quincy runs a single-wing offense. They don't run any kind of spread, RPO offense. He is almost exclusively a north/south power runner with tremendous cutting ability.
The Juco counts against the 18 class. Had no effect on what they could or couldn't take this year. The body of visual clues points to something souring between Brock and the staff. You don't tell a player of his caliber that you no longer have room for him unless you found something bad there. I won't make any guesses what it was. I will wait for Blair and Tom to let us know what actually went down.
It pisses me off to see fans who drooled over the prospect of a kid coming here resort to sour grapes. My favorite one in this thread was "he fits ISU's system better." Quincy runs a single-wing offense. They don't run any kind of spread, RPO offense. He is almost exclusively a north/south power runner with tremendous cutting ability.
Just because you don't want to believe it, doesn't mean its not true. It was the worst kept secret around here for a long time. Just like how Brents and Johnson signed last December but didn't announce until February.
It doesn't matter what class Sergeant technically counts against because he changed the scholarship count and changed the number in the RB room. That absolutely had an impact on what they can take in 2019.
Brock was a 'take' until Goodson committed. They wouldn't have invited him to big OV weekend if things had soured.
This is likely the smallest class in KF's 20 year tenure and Brock got caught in a numbers game. He waited too long. Same thing nearly happened to Waggoner last year. Recruiting is weird and a spot may open up later on in the process. Who knows.
Best kept secret from who? Did you have actual communication with Goodson or one of the coaches? If not, you are speculating. Just because Goodson is now committed and Brock is going elsewhere is not EVIDENCE that Goodson was a silent commit. As far as being overstocked at RB, do you remember them taking 8-9 DBs in a two-year cycle between 16 and 17? Taking Brock (assuming he hadn't turned shady) would have increased competition and led to attrition down the road. The same thing will happen at CB within the next year when the pecking order settles out. The point is that you don't chase off players of Brock's ability without a reason. And just like you, I don't have a clue what that reason is. Just because someone heard someone said he was looking for money doesn't make it fact. If you have sources, name them. Otherwise you are talking out your ass.
You, apparently. There are lots of great tools at your disposal on this site. Tom and Blair do a great job keeping us informed.
Do you remember taking no DBs in 2015? They needed to build depth. 4-5 DBs play at the same time. Those were larger classes. If Iowa was planning on taking 23 in this class instead of around 17, there would probably would have been room for Brock.
Why are people denying he was our top RB recruit? Are you embarrassed that we likely aren’t his landing spot? I’m confused.
He was initially. Things change during the recruiting process, for a variety of reasons. This would be a good example.
It should be noted that Iowa doesn't rank their recruits on a big board like Mel Kiper does for the NFL draft. Iowa groups kids together in tiers. Tier 1 included Brock all by himself for a long time. Goodson was added to the top tier this spring. There were other RBs that were in a lower tier (Wright, Hall, etc.).
I don't care who was our top RB recruit. Goodson and Sargent are on board with the Iowa football program and I'm glad we have them.
Why are there so many clone fans on here trying to debate Hawk fans about whether Brock was our top RB target? Are clone fans that insecure that they need validation from Iowa - that Brock is a good running back? I'm confused.....
Ah- another one of the, “say anything that negative about Iowa you’re a clone fan” guys I see.
If your top target is on campus 5 times (or how ever many it was) and still isn't sure he belongs there, he ceases to be your "top target". That would seem to be what happened here.
Goodson was a comparable talent, and from everything I've read a solid kid who knew what he wanted and said "this is the place for me, I can excel here."
That's the guy you "hire". The guy who's got talent and is passionate about working for your "brand".
Goodson was a comparable talent, and from everything I've read a solid kid who knew what he wanted and said "this is the place for me, I can excel here."
That's the guy you "hire". The guy who's got talent and is passionate about working for your "brand".
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Hah! I asked a question the same as you. Get over yourself.
I think people are trying to create a dramatic situation where one doesn't exist.
I agree. I think clone fans want to believe that Brock picked the clones over the Hawks. I also think they should just debate it over on clone fanatic. Chris Williams can then ban anyone that doesn’t agree with him, cytwins and Jamie Pollard.
Isn’t CyTwins and Jamie Pollard one and the same?
Very possible...although I think it’s much more likely that cytwins is an unemployed middle aged man that lives in his mom’s basement.
The JUCO rb from IWCC Mekhi Sargent committed and has been on campus for over a month. He has 3 years of eligibility left. He has been impressive in summer workouts so far. Iowa just didn't have room for another rb with so few scholarships available.
And don’t forget that he takes pride in being a social media predator. He is known to stalk teenage Hawkeye recruits (along with the entire McCaffery family) on social media. I’m hopeful he gets what is coming to him and someone alerts the authorities when he goes too far. He shouldn’t be allowed near any high school sporting events or athletes.
Good heavens, guys and gals. ISU got two running back recruits that Iowa wanted. Simple. Earlier this year, Iowa got several lineman that ISU wanted. Nobody knows whether any of them are any good, or even if they'll show up as advertised. The two running backs may get stolen by a roving band of gypsies, or fall madly in love with each other and elope.
Get over it.
Get over it.
True story. Iowa offered both Hall and Brock ... and had either given a verbal earlier ... the discussion would be playing out differently.
It is quite entertaining that it bothers you so much making you come over here and try to spin it in favor of anyone besides Iowa.
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