This is a thread about a recruit that was a top target of the hawks. He made 5 visits to IC and while pressured to commit, he refused. The staff cut ties and is trying to spin for PR purposes. He then gives his commitment to ISU and hawk fans are butthurt and continue to trash ISU and recruit to make themselves feel better.
J. Brock story
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If that was the scenario ... then the pressure arose because Goodson had indicated that he was about to commit. It's fine if Brock wasn't ready to commit at that time ... however, it doesn't change the fact that by failing to commit then, he vacated his scholarship to the Hawks.
I agree with all except Iowa fans trashing him and Iowa coaches spinning it for PR purposes. The coaches can’t comment on any recruit until signed. And most Iowa fans agree Brock was their top choice until Goodson came along and wish him luck.
The staff isn't spinning anything. Iowa had Brock and Goodson in their top tier of RBs. Until Iowa added Sergeant, they would have taken both of them. There was only 1 RB spot left after Sergeant came on board. Goodson committed first and Iowa didn't have room for Brock. That's it. That's the story. That's why Iowa cancelled his official visit. Iowa is signing a small class this year. If they had more room they likely never cancel Brock's visit.
One thing that has been pretty consistent through the years is that many players have talked about how KF is very straight forward with recruits. Sure you have the Eno debacle, but seems like the people in the know found out that was due to a couple of assistants that screwed that up and got the boot because of it.
I find it funny that some clone trolls want to believe that he all of a sudden tried to jerk around a RB in recruiting. I'm not saying we didn't want him, but he might not have liked it if we said "hey we have another guy and we are taking whoever commits first". I know that doesn't fit the narrative that some want to spin, but it seems like lots of players have said that Iowa was VERY direct during recruiting.
I find it funny that some clone trolls want to believe that he all of a sudden tried to jerk around a RB in recruiting. I'm not saying we didn't want him, but he might not have liked it if we said "hey we have another guy and we are taking whoever commits first". I know that doesn't fit the narrative that some want to spin, but it seems like lots of players have said that Iowa was VERY direct during recruiting.
ISU fans acting like "little brother" again. Just be happy you got a nice looking RB. No need to pound your chest like you beat Iowa for him when it's clearly been documented that Iowa got their RB and told him he no longer has an offer.
Iowa State fans always trying to spin it anyway they can. Just like they try to spin the Iowa-Iowa State record. Here are the real stats:
Last 5 years: Iowa is 4-1
Last 15 years: Iowa is 10-5
Last 20 years: Iowa is 10-10 (there you go clones)
Last 35 years: Iowa is 25-10
Overall: Iowa is 43-22
Last 5 years: Iowa is 4-1
Last 15 years: Iowa is 10-5
Last 20 years: Iowa is 10-10 (there you go clones)
Last 35 years: Iowa is 25-10
Overall: Iowa is 43-22
1. Hard to believe that was 16 years ago. Jack Whitver is the top guy in the state legislature now.
2. Seneca, when healthy, was one HELL of a college quarterback.
Some kids are ready to commit and others are not. I am sure Brock was going to see what he could get. That's the gamble some players take and if they are okay with it that's fine. I had a buddy who was a big Olinemen. He had offers from FCS schools but one night he got an offer from a FBS school and they gave him 24 hours to accept. He ended up not taking it, because he didn't get a visit or anything. They just offered him because their number 1-2 options bailed/committed elsewhere. He ended up in the FCS level, but he still talks about not taking that chance.
Anytime you can get a kid out of GA its a win for your program. IDC where the other player is from, GA is a right football state and any ties you can get from that area are HUGE in terms of players. Iowa will be fine.
Anytime you can get a kid out of GA its a win for your program. IDC where the other player is from, GA is a right football state and any ties you can get from that area are HUGE in terms of players. Iowa will be fine.
For what it is worth, ""They did a great job of being interested but not bugging him," QHS coach Rick Little said. "They would check in and make sure he knew they were invested in what was going on. They also were very, very patient in letting him know that. I think that was something that was really key in this situation." according to his high school coach.
http://www.whig.com/20180706/brock-..._medium=social&utm_source=twitter_WhigSports#
http://www.whig.com/20180706/brock-..._medium=social&utm_source=twitter_WhigSports#
Makes a lot of sense and you thought wrong. They respect the offer after they have accepted. Kids have had career ending injuries and Iowa still honors it.
Let us know when ISU honors their 320 2019 offers. Lol
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So then how could you offer more then 20ish players every year just in case all of them said yes? Get real they all have stipulations.
What a vivid imagination you have there son. Since when has Hawk fans ever felt butt hurt about ISU? LOL I have no doubt that Iowa told Brock that they had two other backs in mind, one which was already on campus and the other they had a good feeling about. It would be common sense to tell young Mr Brock that they only had one opening available and if he wanted it, he should take it. However, I think Iowa researched and came to the conclusion that Goodson was either a better back in there opinion, or he fit the mold of what they wanted more then Brock. Either way, not many people are Butt hurt that Brock is at ISU. I think, and yes, it is my opinion that Goodson is the better back after watching both of there game video's. And furthermore, butt hurt would signify that Iowa lost out to ISU with Brock, which did not happen. Iowa, like Purdue backed off there offers, so I am assuming that Purdue must in some way feel butt hurt as well, right?
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No, I am sure recruits are told that Iowa wants them to play at Iowa, but they only have a certain amount of scholllies, so why the kid is still shopping and upping his scholly offers, Iowa is out looking for their plan B and plan C options. Eventually a kid is going to commit, and that scholly is no longer available. Personally, I think Iowa just decided that for whatever reason, they wanted Goodson over Brock.
Purdue and Iowa both told Brock they didn't have room. His final five was cut down to three.
I am rather surprised he didn't choose Northwestern, unless there is something about that recruitment we don't know about.
I am rather surprised he didn't choose Northwestern, unless there is something about that recruitment we don't know about.
I would be surprised if Brock doesn't get a bigger offer come late November or early December when the Blue Bloods start looking for there plan B players. Of course, if Goodson blows up I can see some bigger name SEC teams come calling late as well.
Maybe Brock is related to Ram and doesn't understand recruiting. We have one open scholarship and the first person to accept is the winner. If he's that dumb, than Ram and Brock can't get into Northwestern so they didn't want him either
Maybe that's why there is an early signing period? And he's not a 5 star point guard...
You can’t really believe it would be possible for ANY University to operate this way do you? Do you have any idea how many offers each school has out there?
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