Jackson and Daniels Snubbed out of the 1st round

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

Pathetic...wow.. kind of shocked I know the 2nd round awaits but I hope these 2 don’t get bit in the arse ... starting to think Jackson should of came back for his senior year to show the nation and the scouts it wasn’t a one year wonder aka .. “fluke” man I was hoping the Packers would of picked him up and they still can but they traded their choices I believe .. bad move I think on the Packers choice.. I just hope they both get picked in the 2nd and I hope Jewel gets picked period as he was an All American and would be a shame if he doesn’t get drafted..

 

[LGEND24]

Not only did the Packers not choose him, they chose another CB instead.

 

[Forgery5]

Love Jackson but he didn’t have a good combine and it followed him right through the first night of the draft. I expect his name to come off the board early tonight and like King, he can show everyone what they missed out on.

 

[TheHawkeyeDudeAbides]

I just pray that no Hawkeye joins the Cleveland Browns or Cincy Bengals. Those clowns deserve their misfortunes. The Browns draft picking ability could be be called the Cleveland Steamer.

Not a fan of Faker Mayfield. Rather had Barkley #1 and Rosen at #4. Faker's too short and Johnny Manziel like. At least I don't root for the Brownies.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

There are teams I dislike and really don’t want a Hawkeye on them, but if it means NFL, I’ll deal with it.

 

[WestIAHawk]

They were BOTH right there for the Vikes to take either one at 30. Damn....

 

[ukiddinme]

Pathetic...wow.. kind of shocked I know the 2nd round awaits but I hope these 2 don’t get bit in the arse ... starting to think Jackson should of came back for his senior year to show the nation and the scouts it wasn’t a one year wonder aka .. “fluke” man I was hoping the Packers would of picked him up and they still can but they traded their choices I believe .. bad move I think on the Packers choice.. I just hope they both get picked in the 2nd and I hope Jewel gets picked period as he was an All American and would be a shame if he doesn’t get drafted..

There are gonna be several "shoulda coulda woulda's if only'" regrets that will come to light in a few years.
Happens every year and nobody, not mayok, kiper, or any of them get held accountable.
The Browns are consistently the biggest culprits. To not pick the best football player and character in the draft (Barkley) & get a QB @ 4 is irresponsible imo. Mayfield woulda /shoulda been there In 4th round. Wow. Just wow!!!

 

[Hammer93]

They were BOTH right there for the Vikes to take either one at 30. Damn....

I really thought the Vikes would take the OL Hernandez at that #30 pick. Why another CB when you have both starters coming back from last year? Hell, we have one OL that retired and another that is Blah. Don't understand the thinking there.

 

[WildTurk]

Hopefully my Colts take them early 2nd round

 

[Harbinger273]

They'll both come off the board in the 2nd fasho! If not it'll be the next most heinous atrocity to take place in Dallas in the last 55 years. Fools in the NFL I tell you, Fools!

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

If not it'll be the next most heinous atrocity to take place in Dallas in the last 55 years.

I see what you did there....

 

[anon_gjzkhykcp9iuj]

There are gonna be several "shoulda coulda woulda's if only'" regrets that will come to light in a few years.
Happens every year and nobody, not mayok, kiper, or any of them get held accountable.
The Browns are consistently the biggest culprits. To not pick the best football player and character in the draft (Barkley) & get a QB @ 4 is irresponsible imo. Mayfield woulda /shoulda been there In 4th round. Wow. Just wow!!!

Held accountable? For what, not making a correct guess?

 

[InsaneHawk]

Love Jackson but he didn’t have a good combine and it followed him right through the first night of the draft. I expect his name to come off the board early tonight and like King, he can show everyone what they missed out on.

Is there too much stock put into the combine? I thought the only real downside to Jackson's combine was his 40 and as discussed on this site 40 times aren't a good indicator of ability and on-field performance.

 

[Buddehawk]

I just pray that no Hawkeye joins the Cleveland Browns or Cincy Bengals. Those clowns deserve their misfortunes. The Browns draft picking ability could be be called the Cleveland Steamer.

Not a fan of Faker Mayfield. Rather had Barkley #1 and Rosen at #4. Faker's too short and Johnny Manziel like. At least I don't root for the Brownies.

I am not a Mayfield fan either - I see him as a combination of Manziel and Ryan Leaf. Cocky immature looking for attention like Manziel without all the partying background. Arrogant, unstable, immature like Leaf. He in not them and he may succeed but I see it continuing thier string of QB issues. As a KC fan not a big fan of John Dorsey - to many guys drafted to high, to many busts from draft positions where you expect the guys to start in year or 2 and be 5-10 year starters for the team

 

[OILCHECKER]

They aren't being snubbed. Jackson was considered the 5th best CB by many. Daniels is one of the better centers but you don't see a ton of interior OL typically go in the first round. They both likely get drafted in the 2nd rd or at worst, the early 3rd, right where they both should be.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

They aren't being snubbed. Jackson was considered the 5th best CB by many. Daniels is one of the better centers but you don't see a ton of interior OL typically go in the first round. They both likely get drafted in the 2nd rd or at worst, the early 3rd, right where they both should be.

Yeah, Phil himself stated that Jackson was still a little rough around the edges ... said there was still areas he could improve on (this was said before Jackson opted for the NFL). It would seem that many NFL personnel people kinda felt the same way.

As for Daniels, because of his injury, he really didn't put up the best tape during his JR season. However, he's a smart, versatile guy ... played everything from C to OT at Iowa ... so there's a lot of extra value that goes along with him.

 

[Dick Rambone]

If i am an NFL prospect who had a great year on tape , I take the NFL combine invite and use it to collect dogcrap from the back yard and tell them to get bent. I hate the NFL , every year they totally disregard game tape and take some combine warrior then call themselves wonderful for getting a guy in the 2-7 round . Teams dont like to take Iowa guys early its becoming clear , Iowa is sterotyped as middle round value guys.

 

[Dick Rambone]

ps Kirk next time tell the kid to stay in school.

 

[Titanhawk2]

I really thought the Vikes would take the OL Hernandez at that #30 pick. Why another CB when you have both starters coming back from last year? Hell, we have one OL that retired and another that is Blah. Don't understand the thinking there.

Because they have that one DB who is 100 years old

 

[ICWestfan]

ps Kirk next time tell the kid to stay in school.

Because that worked out so well for Dez King? Both Daniels and Jackson are going to get drafted today, maybe Jewell as well.

 

[David1979]

Draft is always a mystery. Who would have thought Mayfield would be the #1 pick? Of course, it is the Browns so that is to be expected. They didn't have a great second pick either at #4.

 

[andy1992]

I just pray that no Hawkeye joins the Cleveland Browns or Cincy Bengals. Those clowns deserve their misfortunes. The Browns draft picking ability could be be called the Cleveland Steamer.

Not a fan of Faker Mayfield. Rather had Barkley #1 and Rosen at #4. Faker's too short and Johnny Manziel like. At least I don't root for the Brownies.

I guess I am confused on the nickname "Faker". Is it just because it rhymes with Baker? I think he would have been a good draft pick had the Browns not taken him. Now he will waste away with the rest.

 

[IamHawkeye]

Is there too much stock put into the combine? I thought the only real downside to Jackson's combine was his 40 and as discussed on this site 40 times aren't a good indicator of ability and on-field performance.

Yessssss. Do they ever change the combine events even a little bit? Those tests can't test heart.

Also a long night, not only for Hawk fans, but imagine KF and Parker, not to mention JJ and his relatives,

 

[Dick Rambone]

Because that worked out so well for Dez King? Both Daniels and Jackson are going to get drafted today, maybe Jewell as well.

Dez stayed because His Mother first, 2nd Kirk approached Daniels who wasn't even thinking of the NFL, kid is 20 and Iowa sure could have used Him this year , last I checked its Kirks job to win games for IOWA , if a kid wants to go that's one thing a coach telling Him is surely another.

 

[INXS83]

Pathetic...wow.. kind of shocked I know the 2nd round awaits but I hope these 2 don’t get bit in the arse ... starting to think Jackson should of came back for his senior year to show the nation and the scouts it wasn’t a one year wonder aka .. “fluke” man I was hoping the Packers would of picked him up and they still can but they traded their choices I believe .. bad move I think on the Packers choice.. I just hope they both get picked in the 2nd and I hope Jewel gets picked period as he was an All American and would be a shame if he doesn’t get drafted..

Yep. They should have stayed at Iowa another year.

 

[INXS83]

I really thought the Vikes would take the OL Hernandez at that #30 pick. Why another CB when you have both starters coming back from last year? Hell, we have one OL that retired and another that is Blah. Don't understand the thinking there.

Haven't you heard, it takes more than 2 good corners to be an elite defensive team in the NFL nowadays.

 

[WestIAHawk]

I really thought the Vikes would take the OL Hernandez at that #30 pick. Why another CB when you have both starters coming back from last year? Hell, we have one OL that retired and another that is Blah. Don't understand the thinking there.

Ya I agree...OL a big need. But, Vikes secondary got torched in the playoffs. By Drew and NICK FOLES for christ sake...

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Draft is always a mystery. Who would have thought Mayfield would be the #1 pick? Of course, it is the Browns so that is to be expected. They didn't have a great second pick either at #4.

They reached twice in the first 4 picks of the draft. That’s the Browns though

 

[Hammer93]

Ya I agree...OL a big need. But, Vikes secondary got torched in the playoffs. By Drew and NICK FOLES for christ sake...

I get that, but Hernandez with Elflein blocking for Cousins and Cook at RB....wow. What a great opportunity to run the ball consistently and give Cousins more time. Also, Hernandez seems like almost a lock for a 8-10 year starter immediately.

 

[bagdropper]

They didn't get snubbed. And no, I'm not devaluing them at all in saying that.

Not all "first round talents" get picked in the first round. Every team places value on every player in their own fashion. And as we saw, all the teams drafting yesterday didn't place enough value at the spots they picked to pull the trigger on them. Whereas chances are a LOT of teams like both of them in the 2nd.

Can't take business personally here, folks. They'll get picked today, probably fairly early too.

 

[m.stoops2013]

They will both be fine, both are picked in the first 10 picks today.

 

[Herkmeister]

 

[FranklinHawk]

Dez stayed because His Mother first, 2nd Kirk approached Daniels who wasn't even thinking of the NFL, kid is 20 and Iowa sure could have used Him this year , last I checked its Kirks job to win games for IOWA , if a kid wants to go that's one thing a coach telling Him is surely another.

Even if they go in Round 2, don't you think there is future recruiting value in being able to show previous Iowa players go early? It's not like they're going to fall into the late rounds or go undrafted.

 

[HoustonHawkeye]

Players aren't always chosen by pure talent alone. Here are some of the factors to consider:

• Teams current need
• Players whose contract is expiring in one year
• Prospective players history of injury
• Players personality fit to team
• Amount of talent in the latter rounds that is available at said position
• Is team building for this year or 2-4 years down the road
• Possible free agents coming up next spring
• Teams offensive or defensive style(do they use more zone defense or man to man defense, and do they us zone blocking on the OL?)
• And last, but not least...what do their fans want.

 

[bumpstock]

Is there too much stock put into the combine? I thought the only real downside to Jackson's combine was his 40 and as discussed on this site 40 times aren't a good indicator of ability and on-field performance.

No, combine reveals things not seen on tape (e.g., Josh's frozen hips) which, I believe, has hurt him more than his 40 time. Go watch his back pedal again at the combine, and compare it to everybody else ~ they have swivel hips, and his are frozen. Painful to watch.

 

[andy1992]

Vikings drafted another corner because they have Aaron Rogers to deal with and if one goes down they have a rookie to put in. I don't blame them for that pick. Although they did need a lineman. My packers drafted a Corner. Hopefully we get another 3rd round corner.

 

[hawkfeever]

ps Kirk next time tell the kid to stay in school.

Second round good enough. Look what staying got Dez King. Teams avoided him his senior year and down he went.

 

[DaCDiggity]

Is there too much stock put into the combine? I thought the only real downside to Jackson's combine was his 40 and as discussed on this site 40 times aren't a good indicator of ability and on-field performance.

He also sucked at back pedaling

 

[N.Legend]

ps Kirk next time tell the kid to stay in school.

As if he has any sway in that.

 

[ichawk24]

Haven't you heard, it takes more than 2 good corners to be an elite defensive team in the NFL nowadays.

3rd CB are now on the field for a majority of NFL plays.