I'm sorry but he cost us a lot of made threes tonight and that was the difference. We get up 11 and he gets absolutely lazy and allows two 3's and chucks up a shot resulting in a bucket from OSU. Then he leaves Ahrens wide open for two 3's in a row, once jumping on a shot fake (dude you're 5'10" you're not blocking anything) and the second when he sags to one side too far and can't recover. There was plenty of bad defense but he was absolutely atrocious tonight.
JBo has to sit until he guards
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He always is.
Hes terrible physically and mentally.
Atleast he scored tonight though. He probably broke even vs what he gave up.
Connor had zero rebounds from the 4 spot.
Neither one deserves the minutes they get.
I also saw Connor take a few more 3s tonight when he should never shoot another shot from outside the arc again.........
Anybody remember when there was all that talk about AJ green owning his ass and then he showed up and played some of the most unreal defense we’ve ever seen him play.. little bit of that would be nice
I bet Bohannon could guard the hell out of his personal chair on the bench.
Now it’s time for him to prove it.
Now it’s time for him to prove it.
I’ll see your “arc” and raise you the lane.
Many times he wasnt even raising his arms to put a hand in his face. Just conceded their shot with an open look the rim.
Kakert called it on the podcast a week ago, if CJF is going to be out, its time to play Bohannon and Toussaint together. Keep Murray coming off the bench as the spark plug.
Under 5 minute mark in contested games is less about running plays and more about who is better in scramble situations. Iowa is so awful in these situations because they don't have anybody capable of going north-south with the ball. Connor drives into the lane, doesn't shoot it, gets bailed out with a cylinder call and misses his FT. Classic.
It's obvious to everyone but Fran the worst lineup is Jbo + Connor.
I said that way before Kakert. Sorry but I’m pissed & need the recognition tonight.
Yeah, let’s beat up the guy who had 18 points, 6 points and 2 rebounds!!!! This loss is on the coach and Iowa’s defensive schemes, not his fault. This is truly a stupid post.
God I would trade his 18 points for the 35 that he gave up in a heartbeat.
But then again, I like to win.
Truly stupid post? lol you don't seem to get it. Stop looking at the offensive numbers because there's no doubt the team can score. They can't stop anyone and he's a big part of that problem. OSU point guard drove at will to the hole in the first half against JBo until they went zone and then started giving up 3s. Do you think it's a coincidence teams have some of their best 3 point shooting performances against us? Wake up dude.
He probably gave up 30 so it’s not even. He can’t play defense and doesn’t want to.
Not true. I’m sorry, but I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Watch the game again and look for the lapses in Iowa’s match up zone.
It starts at the top on defense and once JBO gets beat everybody else is trying to cover for his lack of defense. Then everyone is out of position to stop the offense and rebound. You cannot and will not consistently beat a decent team with poor play at the top.
Even if JBO is there, he is not there because at 6'0 he's too short to contest the 3pt shot and if the offensive player still has his dribble, JBO had to play off him to protect against the blow by.
Its hard to say how many points Jbo gave up, but he did get beat pretty bad on dribble drives in 1st half.
The wide open shots to 'ahrens to close the game, those are pretty normal against Iowa zone. There is no way you can hide multiple poor individual defenders...it is not wrong rotations,...it is fundamental--- the zone gives up more 3pt shots than a man defense would give up and you can't assign your best defender to the other teams best offensive players.
Or start Toussaint and Murray and play JBO 10 minutes or less.
Iowa’s defensive problems are not a Jbo issue. Again, please watch the game again, this time with emotions off and tell me if he gave up 30 points.
You're right. It is not Bohannon's fault he had 2 hip surgeries the last year or so. He's clearly not as quick as he used to be and opponents blow by him or set up for wide open threes. Bohannon should NEVER help on defense unless he is guarding someone who shoots under 20 percent on 3s. His "help" NEVER helps and always leaves his guy wide open for threes. He should only ever be on the court when Joe T or Ulis is on court playing point. He costs Iowa defensively way too much. It's on Fran for not seeing that and playing the better, younger talent.
I don't report people, but this post is definitely reportable. Holy cow, come on. Jbo and Connor are brutal on defense.
I sure hope he doesn’t come back for his 9th year. Definitely on the Jess Settles plan for aged basketball players.
Yeah, I’ve seen enough JBo to know that I’ve seen too much.
I mean at what point is it abusing your elders if we keep throwing him out there to get abused year after year.
You sound more reasonable than some of the basketball illiterate clowns who are posting here because they are angry that Iowa lost and are looking for someone to blame. Just PLEASE watch the game again. Jbo had one blow by in the first half, which if you’ve ever played basketball, you know happens. If anything, most of the shots were made over our bigs. Just please watch the first half again with your eyes on Jbo.
For the poster who claimed Jbo is on top of the key most of the time on defense and loses his guy : Again, that’s not true. It’s Joe W or Cmac who play top of the key positions on defense. Just please watch the game again. And if you still think he had lots of defensive gaffs, give me the minutes. And I’ll send you a great bottle of wine from Napa valley. 🍷🍷 cheers.
I like JBo at the 2 with CJF injured. JT, JBo, Weezy, Murray, Garza would probably be my starting lineup as of now. It would probably be JT, JBo, CJF, Weezy, Garza when he is back with Murray off the bench first followed by Nunge.
Aleksei is right guys. I just watched the game again. The JBO shit is overblown on this thread. What actually happened during the game doesn’t support much of the claims made here. I think Garza was a problem defensively, as was Joe W.
I have no doubt it’s the switches. Match up zones are tricky, they are designed to confuse the offense. Temple’s Chaney was a master of it. Seems tome, and I’m no coach, we get confused on the switches. At a couple of points in the game, JN and CMac lost their players, and it wasn’t clear who was covering who! I didn’t see many Jbo lapses in this game at all. I especially watched for the drive bys and there was one in the first half, which Jbo returned the favor minutes later, and blew by his guy and got fouled. I’m glad I watched the game again. I drive my wife nuts when I watch the games live.
Odd to think they might be the worst defensive perimeter tandem out of any of the likely March Madness teams. Doesn't help Fran is the coach. This game screamed we need a defensive stop to throw OSU's rythm off but yet Perkins doesn't see the court until late and Toussaint barely plays. Shocking when you know CJ isn't going to available to just run with two guys that can't play D at guard for 85% of the game.
That was my thoughts too. Haven't rewatched the last game but the 2 previous games there were some terrible switches.
With you on driving the wife crazy. I was watching/yelling/complaining at the TV while my 2 year old was still up. I finally just stopped watching at the 4 min timeout knowing we lost and hoping that I was wrong. My 2 yo said "why did you stop daddy." Good life lesson for her to not give up on your team that I blew there. I had to say daddy was getting too mad... yes bad dad of the year but I did make sure she got to sleep.
Anyway... to the defense. I think there is something seriously wrong with the matchup zone and the switching. There are times where it looks like we have things right and we switch for no explainable reason and usually Connor is involved. Our rotation is also usually really putrid as well where you just know that wide open 3 is coming.
My beef with Bohannon is not his effort or rotations on defense but that it is he can't defend straight up. I thought I counted 3 or 4 times in the first half alone that he was beat off the dribble directly leading to a basket. It is a very rare team/guard that can't do it. I just don't see what makes him a better all around player than Toussaint to deserve so many minutes.
Iowas zone kind of morphs between a 1-3-1 and a 2-3 most of the second half, JBO is one of the 2 guys at the top.
After watching again JBO was the guy responsible for Ahrnes on his first couple 3s. Other than that he wasn't awful and definitely not the worst.
But pretty much everyone was terrible from about 14 minutes on.
Nunge was probably the worst. Fran playing him on the wing is really a dumb decision. Nunge was also brutal on offense in the second half.
Connor was just slightly less awful on defense and really brings nothing on either end of the court. I really don't understand why he's ahead of others on the bench.
Weiskamp is the least poor of our bad defenders, I think hes fine in man but he lacks awareness in the zone.
Garza was also terrible on defense and probably had his worst offensive game of the season.
I lost track of everything you wrote after the offer of wine from Napa. 😉
But, no, you're right, Bohannon played pretty well in the first half, especially when Joe T was playing point. I think if he's playing the 2 with Joe T or Ulis at point then he can be a real asset because Joe or Ulis can drive and kick and Bohannon can be set up for open shots and the defense suffers less with at least one decent perimeter defender beside him.
JB was not playing good defense the last 12+ minutes of the game. No, it wasn't just Bohannon playing slow, effortless defense (Connor and Garza were bad down the stretch), but he was making it easy for Ohio State -- Ahrens went on a run on Bohannon and when Bohannon tried to help he could never recover. Connor is definitely the bigger problem between the two, but Iowa needs guards who can penetrate and score or dish as well as play decent defense.
About 5 things have to happen for Iowa to beat most mid + level teams. Opponent must commit a lot of turnovers, play lax D on the perimeter, not have any quick guards, not have 2 guys go off for career highs and Fran not have to make any impactful decisions under the 5 minute mark. As others have stated, just tired of watching Iowa get abused at the guard spots since Fran arrived. To make it worse, he has the talent on the roster, he just refuses to play them.
If JBo is in the game, JoeT or Perkins or someone who is athletic needs to be in with him, period (no clue how long CJ will be out). As many have stated, JBo might hit two 3 pointers, but he will for sure give up double if not triple that to the lucky soul who will be guarded by him. Even Cmac's entry passes to Luka are starting to get picked off. And when teams double Luka off Cmac's guy, he is so wide open we are in no man's land-- he will more than likely miss if he shoots it, resulting in absolutely no reason to guard him. I wish I could say that what i'm stating is some sort of revelation, but I think every single poster on here knows this and has for a long time now. If we know it, the other highly paid coaches around the B1G know it. We are in for a rough end of this season.
It’s lack of athletic ability. Slow, slow, slow. That and Fran continues to play guys that play no defense. The Starting 5 are unbelievably unathletic, and are simply overmatched against a team with even halfway decent athletes.
I agree. We are (or were) trying to be a championship-caliber team. I love the threes, but I like complete players even more. He's a specialist right now.
