He scores more points than Bohannon per 100 possessions and has the most assists on the team per 100 possessions. Yes, he turns it over too much, but he needs to play more to get in a flow.
He scores more points than Bohannon per 100 possessions and has the most assists on the team per 100 possessions. Yes, he turns it over too much, but he needs to play more to get in a flow.
None of the guards could do anything against Michigan's defense, but it would have been nice to have someone who could drive past their man periodically. Lol at Fran putting Ulis in the game after the Hawks mini-run.
In Joe T’s defense I think Fran ruined him mentally as a player this whole season & it has effected his actual on the court play.
And that’s not a knock on Joe. Tough situation for him & his role on this team after his role on last year’s team.
And that’s not a knock on Joe. Tough situation for him & his role on this team after his role on last year’s team.
The guy that has the record for the most three pointers in Iowa history and will finish as the all time assists leader. The guy that other teams still guard thirty feet from the basket? That's who your trying to run down?
The problem for Joe is, he still makes the same mistakes every game and he is not a good shooter. Once he is able to play within himself and the system, the more he would play.
I've been a big Joe T guy since day 1 but he's a liability.
Run down? What are you talking about? Just replying to your silly questions and statement that he doesn't get that many assists, when in fact he leads the team in assists per possession.
Those stats are definitely of Tallest Midget award variety. If Toussaint was really good he'd play more. He isnt, so he doesn't.
I agree. Just look how he played against Illinois in last years final game.
You decided to take shots at jbo. The soon to be all time assists leader in program history. That guy? The all time three point shooter in program history? The one that teams are still scared if even with two bad hips?
Yeah you really nailed this one. Joe T who gets stripped of the ball by ghosts is really better than him
You said Toussaint rarely gets assists and he leads the team. I didn't take any "shots" at anyone except you and your idiotic post. Grow up.
Sophomore slump.. hope he’s back and ready to roll next year.
I’ve been saying this exact thing for two weeks! People need to quit defending this guy! He is just not playing well enough to deserve any minutes. Give me Ulis....sorry Joe T..
It's Fran's job to develop players. Joe still looks like a freshman, that's Fran's fault
LOL it’s my bosses fault I don’t do well at work.. how about some personal accountability
He actually had 8 boards in 17 mins which is unreal, he's usually terrible at boards for a 4. The fact he plays over keegan is a straight up joke. I've been a proponent of joeT and ulis getting more time but they just haven't been good lately although in miniscule minutes I can see why their confidence is shot. At some point you just have to step up when given a shot.
But if JoeT was playing connors minutes and putting up the same numbers some of the people who blindly defend connor would be screaming. Team needs more speed, strength, and athleticism across the board, especially the guards
The kid has absolutely zero confidence. Zero. Watch the end of the Wisconsin game last year. He made huge plays.
Pretty much the same.
Just not being allowed any leeway this year.
Players almost never regress, the opponents figure out your tendencies though.
At times he just needs to run the offense and let the game come to him. He's just always trying to make something happen himself. Maybe he's trying to earn PT because his coach has given him a short leash. Connor and Jbo get too many minutes on this team. Fran has to trust either Ulis or Joe T to take some of Jbo minutes and give them a bigger leash. I don't know but maybe like coach Joe T when he gets out of control instead of instantly putting him on the bench. But then again Fran only sees offensive mistakes. Jbo gave up a costly 3 in this game where he was completely lost on D. Most coaches take a mistake like that and takes the player out of the game but not Fran. He rides the guys he trusts and gives no leash to the guys he doesn't. There where no adjustments by Fran in this game and when that happens and things start going bad you might as well bet on Fran getting a T. He'll just take things out on the officials when he has no answers.
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There was a really bad stretch where Fran just threw out Ulis after not playing him in the first half. That's a bizarre move considering the magnitude of that point in the game. Either Ulis or Joe T is your backup PG. Make a decision and stick with it. You guys all remind me I'm not a coach and don't get to see practice, so why can't Fran who's forgotten more about basketball then I'll never know figure out who his backup PG is? They same stretch Patrick was awful in too and took horrible shots. Of course no timeout by Fran per usual. Losing Nunge is irreplaceable in a game like this and Fran really doesn't have anybody that can replace him. Especially in a game where Luka was struggling so much.
Keegan only played 21 minutes by the way. That's with losing Nunge and Connor. Seems like maybe that should have been 30 minutes.
He plays like a fast and loose mid-major PG, which is what wins those said mid-major teams NCAA tournament games in those 1st Rd upsets........but for whatever reason fails at a place like Iowa.
I call that BAU.......
I hope Joe T stays and flourishes when he can get more playing time. He's shown himself to be perfectly capable in spots, but it does seem he's lost his confidence this season. Fran clearly has no trust in him and he has to walk on eggshells every time he's on the court. One mistake and he's on the bench again for the rest of the game. I can't imagine that's good for Joe T's mental health. Hopefully he can tough it out and come back strong next season.
I believe Joe started 20 games at PG last season
And we were an NCAA Tournament team. With him as our starting PG.
I am shocked at how he looks now.
I like Joe T. and really want him to succeed here. I agree that getting yanked all the time and such limited PT has hurt his confidence, but he is not demonstrating that he is learning / adjusting. Poor shot selection, travels due to being out of control, getting caught in the air with no place to go and raising the chicken wing when he drives are getting old. The more I see of Joe T. the less confident I am he can modify his game enough to play in Fran's system.
It was a 3-pt game and he went down to the floor leaving his guy wide open for a 3 to take a 6 point lead.
well he was on a different floor last year above that ceiling as he started some games and averaged 18 minutes a game and seemed to play alright. I think having him in a limited role is the worst thing for him as he tries to hard in the short minutes he gets. I feel like he does better knowing he will get more minutes and adjusts to how the game flow is going. It would be foolish for both him and the team to have him stick around in a limited role.
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It would be if your boss didn’t train you on how to do your job or give you the tools necessary to do your job well.
Or if your boss told fired you every time you make a mistake, that wouldn’t be a good boss.
I think that’s the point he is making. Yes it is on JoeT to put in the effort and have a good attitude—which by all accounts he does—so what has the coaching staff done to develop him?
I’d actually say this opens up an interesting discussion on player development under this coaching staff. I’ve felt like we have had players as underclassmen perform well and garner high expectations for the following season and then seem to regress. Garza is an anomaly and I think his development couldn’t be credited completely to the coaching staff.
It would do you some good to check out the offensive ratings of Joe T vs Connor. It's not close.
I am not sure what you want Fran to do here with Joe. Joe goes in and tries to do to much and in turn either turns the ball over or gets out of the flow of the offense. Fran wants a spark and is giving him a shot from game to game, but it Joe is not preforming it is on him. I like Joe as a facilitator, but I do not know the last time he took an outside shot. If he is not going to shoot he needs to sit, if he is going to get out of the offensive flow he needs to sit, if he is going to push to hard and turn the ball over he needs to sit. He is doing all of these things right now. He needs to get back to being a spark plug type guy. Take what the defense is giving him and not try to do fancy highlight reel plays. For instance when he went in last night he forced a pass right way that was nearly a turnover and lead to an empty possession. Why are you doing that? This is not on Fran anymore, this is on a player that is not playing up to his potential.
You cannot blame a coach for 1 player and then say they did not contribute to the next. and to the points of everything else you are stating..... What about CJ? What about Weiskamp? What about everyone else that has improved under Fran in his time here with this staff? There are plenty of guys that fit on this list. White, Basabe, Marble etc.
Agreed, seems like a great kid and I hope he gets it together as a Hawk.
On the Devils Advocate side for those who worry about him transferring, ask yourself this question: If Joe Toussaint was on another Team Iowa was facing would he scare the hell out of you in what he might contribute for that Team?
For me the answer is No. Others may see it differently.
I’m not saying every player has regressed. I just think of a few like Uthoff and Jok that came to mind where I think everyone expected big things their last year and I remember feeling like they took a step the wrong direction and I would be curious to look at how each player developed over the years under this coaching staff. I’m not even saying there is a problem. I just think it would be an interesting discussion.
I also didn’t say the coaching staff had nothing to do with Garza, I just think we all know Garza put in a lot of work on his own and with his dad to improve his game. I don’t think the coaches deserve all the credit for Garza.
I’m not in the practices so I don’t get the luxury of seeing how they performed as freshmen in practice or anything. Just something I’m curious about.
Connor has an excellent basketball acumen and he is a steady leader on the floor. Maybe you missed the three ring circus that came to town after he left the game. I agree, maybe a few less minutes per game, but to sum up that he is valueless is a pretty strong statement.
People that do not understand the value of Connor on the floor do not understand much about role players and their importance to a really good basketball team.
Are you deliberately trying for the "Stupid Post Of The Month " Award?
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This is what I don't get with Fran. He simply chooses to not use ANY players whose primary strength is defense! His approach is always 'Game just started, we need offense" or "We are down by 10, we need offense" or 'We are up by 10, we need more offense". There is nothing wrong with having 4 offensive players on the court with one defensive specialist! The only time he will do anything like this is when they are protecting a 2 point lead with 30 seconds left or they need a steal.
CJ is unique, he can do both which is great. Murray seems to be headed in that direction also. No one else is a two way player but offense always trumps defense with Fran.
Everyone can complain about JoeT and his manufactured "sophomore slump", but if I were him i would think 'I played 7 mins, and the team lost by 22, so am I really the problem?'.
CJ is unique, he can do both which is great. Murray seems to be headed in that direction also. No one else is a two way player but offense always trumps defense with Fran.
Everyone can complain about JoeT and his manufactured "sophomore slump", but if I were him i would think 'I played 7 mins, and the team lost by 22, so am I really the problem?'.
