Your powers of observation are quite limited apparently
Just heard Trump cut off all foreign aid to Ukraine; what a slob
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The US forfeited any claim to being a moral authority almost two hundred years ago. Enjoy wallowing in ignorance, 🤡.
Finally, if one's definition of an invasion is expanded to include any instance in which U.S. forces interacted with a foreign country or territory—including areas in the Western Hemisphere that were foreign territories at the time but are now U.S. states—one could cite hundreds of incidents since the founding of the country. In fact, according to historians Christopher Kelly and Stuart Laycock, the United States has been "militarily involved" with every country on the globe but three: Andorra, Bhutan, and Liechtenstein.
These Are All the Countries the United States Has Invaded
While global concern has understandably focused on the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine, the United States itself has intervened militarily in nearly half the countries of the world. We’ve assembled the most comprehensive list we can from sources like the Global Policy Forum, the United...
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Spam? Piss off.
I posted an article written by Europeans (you know what's in Europe don't you? That's right; Ukraine and Russia. They probably have a better idea what's going on in their own back yard than ignorant Americans do). Included in the article was a link to an interview with a Ukrainian official. 🤡
And you know this how? Have you lived there? Do you know Ukrainians?
You are funny. Edit: Thanks for the US history lesson. Did Russia invade Ukraine? Yes or no.The US forfeited any claim to being a moral authority almost two hundred years ago. Enjoy wallowing in ignorance, 🤡.
Finally, if one's definition of an invasion is expanded to include any instance in which U.S. forces interacted with a foreign country or territory—including areas in the Western Hemisphere that were foreign territories at the time but are now U.S. states—one could cite hundreds of incidents since the founding of the country. In fact, according to historians Christopher Kelly and Stuart Laycock, the United States has been "militarily involved" with every country on the globe but three: Andorra, Bhutan, and Liechtenstein.
These Are All the Countries the United States Has Invaded
While global concern has understandably focused on the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine, the United States itself has intervened militarily in nearly half the countries of the world. We’ve assembled the most comprehensive list we can from sources like the Global Policy Forum, the United...
Most of you don’t know enough about Ukraine to make an intelligent decision.
I do know that 15 years after Vietnam that 60k US deaths didn’t matter in the world operations of life
I do know that 15 years after Vietnam that 60k US deaths didn’t matter in the world operations of life
Apparently Trump admin doesn't agree with you
US has not stopped military aid to Ukraine, Zelenskyy says
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says the U.S. has not stopped military aid to Ukraine after newly sworn in U.S.
apnews.com
When I had originally posted this in another thread I indicated I hadn’t read it yet.Apparently Trump admin doesn't agree with you
US has not stopped military aid to Ukraine, Zelenskyy says
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says the U.S. has not stopped military aid to Ukraine after newly sworn in U.S.
Hopefully the military assistance ends soon.
Wrong. Their people are fighting against a would be conquerer. You shouldn’t be on Putin’s side of this.
Depends if a deal is negotiated or not.
I'm thinking we could actually do a lot of damage to Putin's Russia by dragging this out a bit longer. Economy and military are really struggling. Not sure we'd force a regime change, but I wonder. Obviously it'd be nice to have Putin ousted.
Of course Ukraine is also tiring of this conflict and have their own military personnel issues. I think we're ripe for some sort of deal. (Wouldve been whomever took office)
What I wouldn't support is allowing Putin to march through Ukraine. Bigger mess
There are some portions of Ukraine that Z should be happy to give up. That probably ends this as well as it can be ended.
I would say I don’t agree a deal would have been made by whomever took office.
Doesn’t matter, it needs to be ended. Putin obviously ins t a good guy. Where we prolly differ is I don’t think Z is a good guy either. I also don’t think most of the money had anything to do with Russian aggression and helping Ukrainians.
I know there is a guy that posts on here that supposedly is over there volunteering medical care. I took some time to read through his posts to see if he was someone I could consider. He’s so partisan I can’t buy into anything he posts, and I’m not convinced he’s actually there. Reliable information is pretty difficult to get to on this issue.
We have some dumb people in here folks…one if the great things about this country is that one can be supremely ignorant and without any semblance of critical thinking skills, yet not reap the consequences of that.
LOL. Such BS. Oh and by the way, in the 2025 post inauguration America, I would counter that the US is as much a dictatorship and every bit as corrupt as Russia. Not a defense of Zelenskyy, just an observation on Putin’s goal.
Gorbachev may have done that and he was negotiating from a serious position of weakness after their long term afghan war.
But Putin ended up forcing his way to the top in the new Russia and he is really just a thug, thief and a killer.
How many Americans have died in Ukraine? You’re obviously not qualified to make an intelligent decision either but I also have a strong suspicion that you’re an extremely dishonest person.
Are you drunk already? You believe that Ukraine should happily cede territory to Russia. You need to explain. I assume you are just messing around.
Zelenskyy's losing the room. Won't be long now.
Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War
Ukrainians are growing increasingly weary of the war with Russia. Gallup's latest surveys of Ukraine show 52% would like to see the war end as soon as possible.
news.gallup.com
Did Russia invade Ukraine?Zelenskyy's losing the room. Won't be long now.
Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War
Ukrainians are growing increasingly weary of the war with Russia. Gallup's latest surveys of Ukraine show 52% would like to see the war end as soon as possible.
It is now. Even the midnight firing of the IGs is corrupt. That one act would have buried any other administration. Yet Trump did it his first week and because there's a hundred bigger problems he has created, nobody bats an eye.
You really can't think critically can you. It is a US proxy war you idiot.
The most obviously disingenuous idiot in this thread is you and the bootlicking gumps that think likewise.
That you say "The" Ukraine shows you are ignorant about the region or a Russian.
But yes, Ukraine is very corrupt and I have experienced that corruption in business and the judicial system.
You haven’t experienced as much as you’d like to claim. Complex thinking and understanding complicated issues just isn’t your thing. You only have yourself to blame for getting burned lol
No, there are parts of the Ukraine that want Russian control. Zelensky knows this, and he’d be better off without those areas.
He’s going to cede this territory and this is going to be over. He’ll continue to virtue signal though.
My guess is you haven’t done a lot of business with a lot of countries, nor spent time on learning about them and the way things work and why they are done a certain way.
The vast majority of the world operates on bribes. The US, not so much.
I don’t know if that’s what you call corruption, but it exists throughout Asia, the Middle East, South America and Central America.
Why is Ukraine better off without those areas? You seem to believe that Ukraine is better off because Putin wants them. Am I correct?
Of course it does, but Ukraine is bad by EU standards if they could get in. If they were in EU there wouldn't be a war. And it does happen in the US judicial system.
In Ukraine, it's the old Soviet way.
It definitely is the old Soviet way.
But they are learning to be more Western European and break from the USSR.
But, Ukraine is doing something for us. They’re testing our weapons and we don’t have boots on the ground.
But they are learning to be more Western European and break from the USSR.
But, Ukraine is doing something for us. They’re testing our weapons and we don’t have boots on the ground.
No, they’re are better off without these areas because if they keep them hostilities as guaranteed in the future.
How are they guaranteed? You do know that these areas are being supplied and infiltrated by Russia. It's like Canada flooding North Dakota with weapons, money and agitators and you calling on the USA to let the state go. You aren't serious.
I’m completely serious. As I was when I cited surveys that showed pre conflict 49% of Ukrainians identified with Russia, and a lower percentage wasn’t opposed to being part of Russia.
That changed downward after the invasion, but the latest data shows a significant softening of support for the war. Another lower percentage isn’t opposed to being part of Russia, as they historically always have.
It’s not as simple as some op-ed in the NYT.
It’s beyond my wildest imagination how many people support the US aid and involvement for this conflict. I sorta understand if they think the Ukrainian people are being helped. There is little evidence that they are in fact being helped. The reasons cited for their support of US involvement is like reading a movie script. Most of it is just untrue.
