Just heard Trump cut off all foreign aid to Ukraine; what a slob

[GolfHacker1]

Please provide a link to the full survey.

Which one? Already linked two in previous threads. Go ahead and look up the survey you are most interested in. Let me know what specific questions you have.

Maybe start with this one:

Ukrainians Who Want Negotiated Peace Are Open to Territorial Concessions​

Do you agree or disagree that Ukraine should be open to making some territorial concessions as a part of a peace deal to end the war?
Bar chart showing Ukrainian public opinion on making territorial concessions as part of the peace deal to end the war. Among people who think Ukraine should seek to negotiate and ending to the war as soon as possible, 52% agree that Ukraine should be open to making some territorial concessions as a part of a peace deal to end the war, while 38% disagree.
Agree

52%
Disagree

38%
Don't know/Refused

10%
This question was asked only of people who think "Ukraine should seek to negotiate an ending to the war as soon as possible."
October 2024
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[Hammerhead02]

I’m completely serious. As I was when I cited surveys that showed pre conflict 49% of Ukrainians identified with Russia, and a lower percentage wasn’t opposed to being part of Russia.

That changed downward after the invasion, but the latest data shows a significant softening of support for the war. Another lower percentage isn’t opposed to being part of Russia, as they historically always have.

It’s not as simple as some op-ed in the NYT.

It’s beyond my wildest imagination how many people support the US aid and involvement for this conflict. I sorta understand if they think the Ukrainian people are being helped. There is little evidence that they are in fact being helped. The reasons cited for their support of US involvement is like reading a movie script. Most of it is just untrue.

Which one? Already linked two in previous threads. Go ahead and look up the survey you are most interested in. Let me know what specific questions you have.

Maybe start with this one:

Ukrainians Who Want Negotiated Peace Are Open to Territorial Concessions​

Do you agree or disagree that Ukraine should be open to making some territorial concessions as a part of a peace deal to end the war?
Bar chart showing Ukrainian public opinion on making territorial concessions as part of the peace deal to end the war. Among people who think Ukraine should seek to negotiate and ending to the war as soon as possible, 52% agree that Ukraine should be open to making some territorial concessions as a part of a peace deal to end the war, while 38% disagree.
Agree

52%
Disagree

38%
Don't know/Refused

10%
This question was asked only of people who think "Ukraine should seek to negotiate an ending to the war as soon as possible."
October 2024
Get the data Download image

Link. No copy and paste.

 

[GolfHacker1]

Link. No copy and paste.

Why do you think you’d be in a position to order me to do anything? Curious?

You know they exist, look them up yourself and let me know what specific question you have. They are all pretty self explanatory.

Quit playing games.

 

[Hammerhead02]

Why do you think you’d be in a position to order me to do anything? Curious?

You know they exist, look them up yourself and let me know what specific question you have. They are all pretty self explanatory.

Quit playing games.

BS. I already know the game you are playing.

 

[GolfHacker1]

BS. I already know the game you are playing.

GFY. Lazy. Educate yourself. You appear interested in the subject. Do some research. How long would it take you to copy that cut and paste and find at least that survey for yourself?

 

[Hammerhead02]

GFY. Lazy. Educate yourself. You appear interested in the subject. Do some research. How long would it take you to copy that cut and paste and find at least that survey for yourself?

I did. I know you are full of shit.

 

[hawksurprize]

GFY. Lazy. Educate yourself. You appear interested in the subject. Do some research. How long would it take you to copy that cut and paste and find at least that survey for yourself?

Why do you want to cozy up to Russia?

 

[GolfHacker1]

I did. I know you are full of shit.

No, you didn’t.

Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War

Ukrainians are growing increasingly weary of the war with Russia. Gallup's latest surveys of Ukraine show 52% would like to see the war end as soon as possible.

news.gallup.com

This is the least meaningful of the polling. There are multiple others ranging in dates.

Look the others up yourself.

 

[Hammerhead02]

No, you didn’t.

Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War

Ukrainians are growing increasingly weary of the war with Russia. Gallup's latest surveys of Ukraine show 52% would like to see the war end as soon as possible.

news.gallup.com

This is the least meaningful of the polling. There are multiple others ranging in dates.

Look the others up yourself.

Did you read the entire article? This is fun.

 

[GolfHacker1]

You do know that these areas are being supplied and infiltrated by Russia.

Can you provide some supporting links to your option that you are stating as fact please and thanks?

 

[GolfHacker1]

Did you read the entire article? This is fun.

I did. I’ve read multiple articles. You made some erroneous statements previously, I’ll need you to provide some links to support your opinion which you incorrectly state as fact.

 

[Hammerhead02]

I did. I’ve read multiple articles. You made some erroneous statements previously, I’ll need you to provide some links to support your opinion which you incorrectly state as fact.

Are you doing this with a straight face?

 

[GolfHacker1]

Are you doing this with a straight face?

Yes. Have you linked to anything supporting your previous incorrect statement yet?

 

[hawksurprize]

Can you provide some supporting links to your option that you are stating as fact please and thanks?

Usa service troops who served in the 80's and 90's ? Just a feeling guess Russia be a friend now ay Comrade?

 

[hawksurprize]

Yes. Have you linked to anything supporting your previous incorrect statement yet?

In other words, **** Russia.

 

[Hammerhead02]

Yes. Have you linked to anything supporting your previous incorrect statement yet?

Yes, Mr. Triggered.

 

[GolfHacker1]

Usa service troops who served in the 80's and 90's ? Just a feeling guess Russia be a friend now ay Comrade?

Huh? English please.

 

[GolfHacker1]

Yes, Mr. Triggered.

No, you haven’t. I’m most interested in Russian aid to specific regions in Ukraine, especially pre conflict. That’s what you seem to be suggesting. I’d like to see the extent of that. Should be easy to find.

And I don’t know what triggered means. I see this word thrown around a lot. Usually by younger people and people who aren’t considered serious. Message board posters probably have a high percentage of people not considered serious, so you can easily help me understand what you mean by this words usage.

 

[SalAunese]

No, you haven’t. I’m most interested in Russian aid to specific regions in Ukraine, especially pre conflict. That’s what you seem to be suggesting. I’d like to see the extent of that. Should be easy to find.

And I don’t know what triggered means. I see this word thrown around a lot. Usually by younger people and people who aren’t considered serious. Message board posters probably have a high percentage of people not considered serious, so you can easily help me understand what you mean by this words usage.

This is an incredibly stupid and ill informed post.

 

[GolfHacker1]

This is an incredibly stupid and ill informed post.

Link to the extent of Russian support as suggested by the other poster pre conflict? Since you referenced stupid and ill infomed.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

It definitely is the old Soviet way.

But they are learning to be more Western European and break from the USSR.
But, Ukraine is doing something for us. They’re testing our weapons and we don’t have boots on the ground.

Before the war it wasn’t true anymore than Biden stealing an election

Where do you think the Far Right Nazi element came from.

The pro west needed Right Sector, Svaboda, Azoz to even think about maybe getting a majority in parliament.

The Orange Revolution was legit in terms of what happened in the overturned election but Yushenko had his wife Katya (Kathy) Chicago born by his side. The Yanukovich election was likely as. Legit as a number of US elections and I was there for. Some of the earl Maidan demonstrations and I assure you there was meddling on both sides.

Demonstrators, at least some changed sides depending on who was paying. The 60 USD.

Putin is a bad dude for sure. Ukraine politic is dirty.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

I’m completely serious. As I was when I cited surveys that showed pre conflict 49% of Ukrainians identified with Russia, and a lower percentage wasn’t opposed to being part of Russia.

That changed downward after the invasion, but the latest data shows a significant softening of support for the war. Another lower percentage isn’t opposed to being part of Russia, as they historically always have.

It’s not as simple as some op-ed in the NYT.

It’s beyond my wildest imagination how many people support the US aid and involvement for this conflict. I sorta understand if they think the Ukrainian people are being helped. There is little evidence that they are in fact being helped. The reasons cited for their support of US involvement is like reading a movie script. Most of it is just untrue.

But most Russians by a vast majority though wanting relations with Russia wanted nothing to do with being Russian citizens

During Donbas War pensioners were double dipping from both sides in Russia controlled areas.

Crazy War

 

[GolfHacker1]

It definitely is the old Soviet way.

But they are learning to be more Western European and break from the USSR.
But, Ukraine is doing something for us. They’re testing our weapons and we don’t have boots on the ground.

Ukraine is testing modified and largely antiquated weapons for the US?

Wow, you are living in a fantasy world. There is a reason we’re giving them modified and downgraded weapons.

“Clearly” you don’t really like your made up bull shit questioned. I suspect because once you get caught you can’t find any credible source to back up your garbage.

How are you coming along on your research of Jack Smith’s history of prosecutorial misconduct?