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This is true, but from what I've read, he was basically standing and looking over Marquand's shoulder for Jedi, whereas for Empire Kershner had pretty much free reign to make the movie in his own vision.
I actually liked that aspect. He's just a petulant child who was upset with daddy and joined the first person that let him do what he wanted. It's also why he wears the mask. Because he's got such a punchable face he needs help to look intimidating.
Ha! Speaking of daddy issues I just found the twitter page for Emo Kylo Ren. Pretty funny stuff.
https://twitter.com/KyloR3n
https://twitter.com/KyloR3n
It's probably because he doesn't trust himself. Went to the dark side briefly when he fought Vader in ROTJ. He also failed in his training of Kylo......
Wait, what?
He defeated the Sith and restored balance to the universe. I hardly think there's a more trustworthy guy around.
My point is, if they didn't want it found, they should have taken it out of the droid. That's all.
And again...I prefaced this with "I'm not usually that guy and it's not a big deal", and I stand by it. It was just something that stuck out to me as they were running for their lives. Hell, they left the droid to fend for itself most of the time, rolling through the desert. And that's another thing...he sure did roll over that sand pretty easily. Every try to wheel a cooler onto the beach? Damned near impossible!
Came across a couple interesting tidbits that might shed some light on where the whole Kylo Renn thing is going.
Apparently Palpatine (Darth Sidious) was forced to kill his parents by Darth Plagueis when he was his apprentice. Made his decent into the dark side complete. (looked this up on wookiepedia
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Since folks think this snope guy might be Darth Plagueis I think there is a good chance we see Kylo being ordered to kill his mother to "complete his training".
Kind of wondered why Kylo was sent out by Snoke being only half trained....might be because Snope knew Kylo couldn't give himself completely to the dark side until he offed Solo which was probably the easier of the two parents for Kylo to kill. He already had abandonment issues with his pops ect....
Since it's a very tall order to replace the baddest villain in movie history (Vader) I can't think of a better story line to accomplish this than by Kylo going over totally to the dark side and killing his mother in the process. That scene would have a deeper impact on audiences than the death of Han Solo IMO.
If this were to happen....I don't think Kylo stops there...he probably turns his hate and new found power on Snoke. Takes him out and then sets his sights on Rey in the last installment.....
Heard it here first
Apparently Palpatine (Darth Sidious) was forced to kill his parents by Darth Plagueis when he was his apprentice. Made his decent into the dark side complete. (looked this up on wookiepedia
)Since folks think this snope guy might be Darth Plagueis I think there is a good chance we see Kylo being ordered to kill his mother to "complete his training".
Kind of wondered why Kylo was sent out by Snoke being only half trained....might be because Snope knew Kylo couldn't give himself completely to the dark side until he offed Solo which was probably the easier of the two parents for Kylo to kill. He already had abandonment issues with his pops ect....
Since it's a very tall order to replace the baddest villain in movie history (Vader) I can't think of a better story line to accomplish this than by Kylo going over totally to the dark side and killing his mother in the process. That scene would have a deeper impact on audiences than the death of Han Solo IMO.
If this were to happen....I don't think Kylo stops there...he probably turns his hate and new found power on Snoke. Takes him out and then sets his sights on Rey in the last installment.....
Heard it here first
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Came across a couple interesting tidbits that might shed some light on where the whole Kylo Renn thing is going.
Apparently Palpatine (Darth Sidious) was forced to kill his parents by Darth Plagueis when he was his apprentice. Made his decent into the dark side complete. (looked this up on wookiepedia
Since folks think this snope guy might be Darth Plagueis I think there is a good chance we see Kylo being ordered to kill his mother to "complete his training".
Kind of wondered why Kylo was sent out by Snope being only half trained....might be because Snope knew Kylo couldn't give himself completely to the dark side until he offed Solo which was probably the easier of the two parents for Kylo to kill. He already had abandonment issues with his pops ect....
Since it's a very tall order to replace the baddest villain in movie history (Vader) I can't think of a better story line to accomplish this than by Kylo going over totally to the dark side and killing his mother in the process. That scene would have a deeper impact on audiences than the death of Han Solo IMO.
If this were to happen....I don't think Kylo stops there...he probably turns his hate and new found power on Snope. Takes him out and then sets his sights on Rey in the last installment.....
Heard it here first
Not a bad guess, but I doubt Kylo kills Snope. Snope appears to have been around for thousands of years. My guess is he creates a powerful Sith, like Palpatine or Kylo now, and once that person is fully trained slips back to wherever he goes and lets the new Sith Lord do his thing. Basically, if Snope could survive Palpatine he should be able to survive Kylo.
In the novels there is a similar character who is the other child of Han/Leia and Kylo's sister. But who knows if they'll follow that.
It's not like rolling a cooler at the beach. It would be similar to rolling a ball on sand which isn't difficult.
Here's an interesting take on the story of kylo Ren
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesth...t-seen-tfa-yet?utm_term=.hgRNq5zv3#.upROlzVGb
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesth...t-seen-tfa-yet?utm_term=.hgRNq5zv3#.upROlzVGb
I liked the movie, but Kylo is the weakest of the Dark villians.
I actually like Rey's character and think it is strong enough to carry the rest of the trilogy.
Carrie Fisher's botox face showed all of the emotion of Dr. Zaius from the original Planet of the Apes.
I actually like Rey's character and think it is strong enough to carry the rest of the trilogy.
Carrie Fisher's botox face showed all of the emotion of Dr. Zaius from the original Planet of the Apes.
I kind of think Ren's bad guy was intentionally "weak". He still has conflict which prevents him from seeing his full potential. I'm betting this trilogy will be as much about the rise of Kylo Ren as a villian as it is about anything else.
Another way to look at it, by Jedi Luke was a badass, but he was a whiney little b*tch in the first movie.
I just saw the movie today and the same things went through my head as well. Even if Kylo was still just a novice with his sword, he would have destroyed a couple of people that just picked one up for the first time. It should have been over in a couple of seconds. Phasma? Hey I'm a CO in the The First Order, let me simply drop the shields to the entire planet because you asked.
The movie was all right but nothing special in my mind. It felt to me that they rehashed the same little story arcs and jokes. As someone else pointed out, it was painful seeing Carrie Fisher on screen. I liked the new characters of Rey, Finn, and Kylo. When Kylo took his helmet off, I thought it was this guy:
I have a 9 year old, 6 year old, and two 5 year olds that want to watch this. Looking at reviews it doesn't seem to bad for kids but what say u that have seen this and have young kids. Ok for them or should I make my wife take them to chipmunks?
It shouldn't be too bad for little kids, although there is typical Star Wars type violence. If you have no problem with them watching the previous six movies then there should be no problem with them watching this.
I liked the movie as well.
I was a first generation Star Wars kid. The original came out when I was 10. I was hooked.
After I watched it, I got the feeling I had just watched a slightly different version of the original. Did anyone else feel that way?
I was a first generation Star Wars kid. The original came out when I was 10. I was hooked.
After I watched it, I got the feeling I had just watched a slightly different version of the original. Did anyone else feel that way?
This was a little bit of an issue for me too at first, just because I was used to Darth Vadar walking tall and smashing people. The thing is, he's obviously not fully trained and still has a little bit of that scared feel to him. I think you'll see him progress through these movies into an extremely ruthless killer. At least that's my hope. He's too sniveling right now to be a true Sith Lord.
All I could think of when he took his mask off was 'ugh, put it back on, put it back on!'
If you've ever seen Conans Triumph the insult dogs interview of people waiting for Attack of the Clones opening you'll know what I'm talking about.
Kylo was a mental wreck at that point and to be effective with the force you have to "clear your mind, Luke" and focus. He was anything but focused after killing his father and taking a blaster bolt to the ribs. Just my 2 bits.[/QUOTE]
I think Leia was unfaithful to Han, cause how can HAN SOLO have a kid that looks like that?
My other problem with the final lightsaber battle is that Rey looks to be just about the most unathletic person in the galaxy when trying to swing a lightsaber. She looks like the nerdiest kid in middle school trying to hold a baseball bat. Should have got a stunt double and CGI-d her head onto the top or something. She's about as believable trying to swing that thing as I would be playing Lebron in a biopic.
Have you guys heard of the Jar Jar Binks sith theory? It sounds crazy at first glance but the evidence is VERY convincing. Would've made the prequel trilogy really good imo.
Dude was struggling with the pull of the light side early in the movie, never finished his jedi training, just kills his dad, then takes a cross-bolt shot from chewie in the ribs (which no one else in the movie survived) and you're complaining that he wasn't 100% in his fight 5 minutes later?
Besides, we're going to find out that Rey was one of the younglings that was being trained by Luke, that's why she picked up the force so quickly. So it all makes sense if you don't try to hard to see holes.
Besides, we're going to find out that Rey was one of the younglings that was being trained by Luke, that's why she picked up the force so quickly. So it all makes sense if you don't try to hard to see holes.
Rey was being trained as a Jedi? I thought it very clearly established she'd been abandoned very early in life. Far too early to be in rigorous training given the one shot we see of her at a young age.
We can only guess how they'll handle her lineage. Luke's daughter? Maybe, but I was wondering why couldn't they make her the second child of Han and Leia? It's noted there were plenty of separations between the two. How about Leia knows the son may go wrong so she keeps a second pregnancy secret and for her own protection allows her to grow up isolated from her? Just spitballing. However, that gives a final battle between the siblings a possibility in the 9th movie.
We know she was dropped off on the planet at a young age, but we don't know why. Speculation is that she was a survivor of the jedi temple massacre and Luke? dropped her off there for safe-keeping. Perhaps under the watchful eye of the guy we see in the first scene.
It would explain a lot. It's possible that she is the child of Luke or Leia, but I'm hoping she's not. Too incestuous as it is.
It would explain a lot. It's possible that she is the child of Luke or Leia, but I'm hoping she's not. Too incestuous as it is.
Oh, no. Not some demon spawn of Luke and Leia. It was clear early in the movie that she had the force running through her. I thought they established that by the way she rappelled to the bottom of the interior of that wrecked battle cruiser. She gracefully grabbed a rope/giant cord, whatever, and swung down. Clearly as they were establishing her as a main character it made me think she must be special.
People have speculated that she is Ben's twin sister based off of the book series - which is not being used for the movies. Which would make her Leia and Han's daughter. That seems unlikely to me as Han didn't seem to care when Ben was taking her away, only Finn was upset.
Others have speculated that she's so strong with the force because she's Luke's daughter. (with an unknown mother) I hope that's not true either.
Others have speculated that she's so strong with the force because she's Luke's daughter. (with an unknown mother) I hope that's not true either.
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