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KF comments on the new OC

The writing is on the wall in BIG, BLOCK LETTERS, Beth! Fire this burnout today and start the search if you haven't already. If you haven't, you have no business being in your current position......
 
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He says there are a lot of ways to move the ball and move it effectively, lmao, they haven't done it for 3 years

Kids, get ready for the same old shit
He is referring to punting the ball my friend, and lots of it. His motto now is punting is winning. Retire already KF.
 
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I would argue against just about everything you've said here
Of course you can, it’s a message board.

Your view is that 10 wins trumps everything because a shit ton of programs would love to say that’s a disappointing season like most of us feel.

And you have a point.

My point is you wouldn’t find any other team with 10 wins the way Iowa won those games. It just doesn’t happen outside of this one program.

Every other team who scored around the same clip and yardage totals as Iowa had a losing record. This does not vindicate Kirk’s style as being good or appropriate for the program. Honestly it points to being extremely lucky.

Other teams who win 10+ games probably do so with a well rounded team. And they may actually have beaten ranked opponents. Slim chance they are outclassed 92-0

You cannot argue that the way the offense has performed over the last three years is in any way a desired result. This is the sticking point. Very few are calling for an Air Raid offense. What we want to see are adjustments to a completely broken scheme so Iowa has a chance to win the conference championship.

That window is basically closed now that the West division is done.

This 2023 team probably gets passed over if the new playoff structure was in place. All because the offense is so bad and no quality wins.

So something has to change for Iowa to have any chance going forward.
 
Of course you can, it’s a message board.

Your view is that 10 wins trumps everything because a shit ton of programs would love to say that’s a disappointing season like most of us feel.

And you have a point.

My point is you wouldn’t find any other team with 10 wins the way Iowa won those games. It just doesn’t happen outside of this one program.

Every other team who scored around the same clip and yardage totals as Iowa had a losing record. This does not vindicate Kirk’s style as being good or appropriate for the program. Honestly it points to being extremely lucky.

Other teams who win 10+ games probably do so with a well rounded team. And they may actually have beaten ranked opponents. Slim chance they are outclassed 92-0

You cannot argue that the way the offense has performed over the last three years is in any way a desired result. This is the sticking point. Very few are calling for an Air Raid offense. What we want to see are adjustments to a completely broken scheme so Iowa has a chance to win the conference championship.

That window is basically closed now that the West division is done.

This 2023 team probably gets passed over if the new playoff structure was in place. All because the offense is so bad and no quality wins.

So something has to change for Iowa to have any chance going forward.
It boils down to two different segments of the fan base.

Some see us scrape out 8-10 wins each year against the MAC and Big Ten West and say that's a successful season. Others will acknowledge that's a good number of wins, but point out that the team had no chance of keeping it competitive against top 25 teams.

Some are satisfied with this consistent winning and nothing more. Others look at programs like Washington and TCU and wonder why a program like Iowa, that generates more revenue and has better fan support, can't have a season like that.

As a non blue blood program, you often have to take chances and a few lumps to achieve a truly great season. I'm sure Washington fans were frustrated when Peterson stepped down and the new coach wasn't successful, but they acted swiftly and moved on to Deboer. I can promise you no Washington fans cares about their 4-8 season in 2021 after this past year. TCU let go of their legendary coach after the program lost momentum, and the very next year they were in the national championship. It all boils down to people that are fine with the status quo and nothing more, and those that feel this program has more potential. Even if it takes a few lumps to get to that point. Count me as someone that thinks this program has more potential than the one scraping out wins against the Big Ten West.
 
Kirk is the most predictable guy in the world and it's unbelievable that people keep expecting something different.

He flat out told us back in December what we could expect out of the offense going forward. Yet somehow the boner for offense prevailed, as a large contingent of the fan base still expected certain changes that had no chance of happening. Not only did fans not listen to Kirk, but they were in uproar when they didn't get certain things that they were told they weren't getting. What world do these people live in? It's truly unbelievable.

Kirk has a formula that very consistently wins a lot of games. He has the defense and special teams at a place where anything they can get from the offense is a free-roll. Most programs in the country would kill to be in that position.

Kirk is who he is. Just like all of us are who we are. Yes, he wants improvements out of the offense. But no major changes are coming and Iowa will continue to win a lot of games. Either jump on board and support the way Iowa goes about being a damn good football program, or get lost
Either jump on board and support the way Iowa goes about being a damn good football program, or get lost
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yeah! All of you fans not happy with the way the offense is can piss off! LOL
The fan telling others to get lost because they would like to see a better product never gets old. We should all just shut up and bow to Kirk's fearitude
 
Looking at kirk's quotes, i would venture to say that at least 2 out of 4 if not all 4 of the head coaches who played in this year's playoff subscribe to the same principles. of course, they had coaches and players who could actually execute and adhere to to these principles and score. These principles (limiting turnover, respectable TOP, complementary fb) don't hold back an offense by any means. in fact, we failed on offense last year because bf failed to adhere to any of them.
 
The dominant defense that gave up 90+ pts to the three teams they played with a pulse? Kirk is still under the impression that he can beat everyone 9-6, which can work for a while in the crappy big ten west but against the top 5-6 teams in the conference you have to score 20-30 pts to have a chance. All the rules favor the offense and he’s thinking it’s a race to double digits.
It would have been a lot lower if the offense had a pulse. 3 and outs are a killer to your defense and 90 yard returns.
 
Looking at kirk's quotes, i would venture to say that at least 2 out of 4 if not all 4 of the head coaches who played in this year's playoff subscribe to the same principles. of course, they had coaches and players who could actually execute and adhere to to these principles and score. These principles (limiting turnover, respectable TOP, complementary fb) don't hold back an offense by any means. in fact, we failed on offense last year because bf failed to adhere to any of them.
The O issues far more on KF then BF.
 
Kirk is the most predictable guy in the world and it's unbelievable that people keep expecting something different.

He flat out told us back in December what we could expect out of the offense going forward. Yet somehow the boner for offense prevailed, as a large contingent of the fan base still expected certain changes that had no chance of happening. Not only did fans not listen to Kirk, but they were in uproar when they didn't get certain things that they were told they weren't getting. What world do these people live in? It's truly unbelievable.

Kirk has a formula that very consistently wins a lot of games. He has the defense and special teams at a place where anything they can get from the offense is a free-roll. Most programs in the country would kill to be in that position.

Kirk is who he is. Just like all of us are who we are. Yes, he wants improvements out of the offense. But no major changes are coming and Iowa will continue to win a lot of games. Either jump on board and support the way Iowa goes about being a damn good football program, or get lost
Damn good program = how many meaningful wins the last five years?
 
It doesn't matter what the rules favor. Points prevented have the same value as points scored.

It's easier to prevent points than it is to score points. Preventing points is also more consistently executed than scoring points.

If anyone is interested in challenging these truths, there are a many better places to try it than at Iowa.

If you don't think Iowa's defense is a trump card in the deck we'll have to disagree
WTF is wrong with you? 😂💩
 
Having a serviceable offense is part of the formula. Did you miss the 20 seasons where it played out that way? That part of the formula just has to be executed. A better OL, better QB, and better OC will give the offense its chance
No sense saying this to 98% posting in this thread as they all have their fingers in their ears going Lalalalalalal
to not listen to you.
I agree with what you say though. Haters gona hate.
 
It doesn't matter what the rules favor. Points prevented have the same value as points scored.

It's easier to prevent points than it is to score points. Preventing points is also more consistently executed than scoring points.

If anyone is interested in challenging these truths, there are a many better places to try it than at Iowa.

If you don't think Iowa's defense is a trump card in the deck we'll have to disagree
Yeah this is a nice formula for consistently beating mediocre/bad teams by 10 points or less.

How's it worked the past few years vs. teams that are actually good?

PSU 31-0
Michigan 26-0
Tennessee - 35-0
tOSU - 54-10
Michigan - 42-3

We've been playing in the worst division in college football. Guys like you seem perfectly content with 9-10 win seasons characterized by narrow wins vs. absolute crap teams, while knowing that we stand ZERO chance, using this formula, against top-tier teams.

Others, like me, would rather we try taking the program to the next level by moving away from this system that basically guarantees losses to top teams. We'd rather see the program evolve and adopt a system/philosophy that actually gives us a chance to win at that highest level.

Yet, we're the bad fans. Lol.
 
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Looking at kirk's quotes, i would venture to say that at least 2 out of 4 if not all 4 of the head coaches who played in this year's playoff subscribe to the same principles. of course, they had coaches and players who could actually execute and adhere to to these principles and score. These principles (limiting turnover, respectable TOP, complementary fb) don't hold back an offense by any means. in fact, we failed on offense last year because bf failed to adhere to any of them.
My hope is that Kirk might hold his OC accountable for a higher performance level now that he himself isn't accountable to the OC's Mom.
 
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JFC, you are clueless!

There is not a single Hawkeye fan who experienced both the 2008 and 2023 seasons who would describe 2023 as a better/more successful year. KF has you so frickin' brainwashed that you have lost all common sense.
I cosign this. 2008 was also handled poorly with KF screwing up the QB situation and costing us a game at Pitt for sure.
 
Yeah this is a nice formula for consistently beating mediocre/bad teams by 10 points or less.

How's it worked the past few years vs. teams that are actually good?

PSU 31-0
Michigan 26-0
Tennessee - 35-0
tOSU - 54-10
Michigan - 42-3

We've been playing in the worst division in college football. Guys like you seem perfectly content with 9-10 win seasons characterized by narrow wins vs. absolute crap teams, while knowing that we stand ZERO chance, using this formula, against top-tier teams.

Others, like me, would rather we try taking the program to the next level by moving away from this system that basically guarantees losses to top teams. We'd rather see the program evolve and adopt a system/philosophy that actually gives us a chance to win at that highest level.

Yet, we're the bad fans. Lol.

188-13 the last 2 years. Damn, that’s pathetic.
 
Lol. Nope. I'm OK on the hire but his comments were less than inspiring
They aren't less than inspiring, they are pathetic. Maybe have an offense that can help the D out a little. Football has passed him and if it wasn't for Phil, Norm, and amazing special teams over the years, no one even knows who Kirk Ferentz is. They carried him. Phil deserves to make more than Kirk and its not debatable.
 
They aren't less than inspiring, they are pathetic. Maybe have an offense that can help the D out a little. Football has passed him and if it wasn't for Phil, Norm, and amazing special teams over the years, no one even knows who Kirk Ferentz is. They carried him. Phil deserves to make more than Kirk and its not debatable.
I was trying to not freak out but I can't argue with any of this.
 
It doesn't matter what the rules favor. Points prevented have the same value as points scored.

It's easier to prevent points than it is to score points. Preventing points is also more consistently executed than scoring points.

If anyone is interested in challenging these truths, there are a many better places to try it than at Iowa.

If you don't think Iowa's defense is a trump card in the deck we'll have to disagree
You should come up with your own brand of football! It sounds great! WTF. Get outta here with that psycho babble bullshit.
 
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