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Kirk Herbstreit on Iowa's State's Head Coach: "He's gone."
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When Herbstreit tweeted this, it makes it seem that Camplbell will be gone by season's end!
The tweet: let me assure you—enjoy this team and this coach, in particular, while you can. He’s gone.
Well, the part where he payed a QB to lead them to a championship was his point. Just a hunch.
he could also be like Charlie strong and leave a good thing and go to a bigtime school and get destroyed
People can speculate all they want.
The only expert on what Matt Campbell will do is Matt Campbell.
The only expert on what Matt Campbell will do is Matt Campbell.
My boss is an Iowa State fan and a happy camper at this time. I have been telling him since the day Campbell arrived in Ames that he would be gone the day he turns ISU into a winner, so he should curb his enthusiasm. Iowa State is a resume building job, not a destination job. LOL
If Iowa is a destination job, Ferentz should have been gone after 2006 and Bob Stoops should be on his 5th Big Ten championship preparing for number 6.
Lol, okay, I see you edited your comment.
Watched the PSU - Mich game in Palm Coast, Fl last night, and they were saying some people in Knoxville want him considered for the Tennessee job. I couldn’t believe it at first until they mentioned Chizek or whatever his name was. I guess stranger things have happened. LSU and Ole Miss were also discussed.
If history is any indicator, then he won't be at Iowa State for the long haul. Gosh ISU has been through a LOT of coaches over the years. The one coach who was successful and wanted to stay long term (McCarney) got fired.
Campbell won't go anywhere yet. He'll have at least another year in Ames. And there's still half a season to go. If he goes out and lays an egg things will cool down fast. ISU will be on a relatively large stage this weekend and whenever that happens things don't go well.
My ISU friends as well. As they should be. There's been nothing to be excited about in Ames with football in what, decades? They're putting together a solid season, granted the Big 12 is pretty limp, but still they're getting it done. Big chance to make noise against TCU.
You put your finger on a point that I've raised a couple of times but most people seem to be ignoring. Iowa State has five games left and will be an underdog in four of them.
Still have TCU, Okie S
more limp than the Big 10 west? There is one easy game in the Big 12 and that is KU. Baylor hasn't won, but their offense is pretty good and they have been close to beating good teams. The rest of the league is competent at football. Round robin with 7 decent teams is a harder deal than a 14 team league where in some years the schedule breaks the right way you get to skip a lot of the tough teams. Look at Wisconsin this year, their strength of schedule is going to be horrid when it is all said and done.
more limp than the Big 10 west? There is one easy game in the Big 12 and that is KU. Baylor hasn't won, but their offense is pretty good and they have been close to beating good teams. The rest of the league is competent at football. Round robin with 7 decent teams is a harder deal than a 14 team league where in some years the schedule breaks the right way you get to skip a lot of the tough teams. Look at Wisconsin this year, their strength of schedule is going to be horrid when it is all said and done.
And if you do stick around and take them to bowls regularly, they will fire you anyway.
Short of going 9-3 or better this year if my team hired him I would be really pissed. Even then I'd be thinking the guy had one good year. Not sure if that's a smart move. But say he goes 6-6/7-5 then follows it up with 8-4. I'd be thinking hey maybe this guy is pretty good.
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I hope he stays and wins a conference championship in the next 3 years for these reasons:
1A. People can STFU about dropping ISU from the schedule
1B. A good ISU on Iowa's schedule is better than a bad ISU
2. It can really stoke the flames of the rivalry
3. It will hopefully light a fire under our coaches to adjust to stay ahead of ISU or risk falling behind
1A. People can STFU about dropping ISU from the schedule
1B. A good ISU on Iowa's schedule is better than a bad ISU
2. It can really stoke the flames of the rivalry
3. It will hopefully light a fire under our coaches to adjust to stay ahead of ISU or risk falling behind
I don't think he would leave for those places, but if Ohio State opened up he'd be hard to hang onto. Maybe Michigan also, but I bet he would wait for Ohio State if he thought it was going to open up.
Usually behind every good head coach that turns a program around this fast is a very good OC and D.C. One of them might get an opportunity elsewhere too. In fact I know who would love to have Iowa state OC.
About the only job that would tempt him away is the Ohio State HC position...and that looks to be in solid and stable hands. Mid levels like Tennesse or even Florida State aren't really a threat...as, believe it or not...Iowa State will match any thing they can pay right down to the assistant level. But more importantly, Campbell likely DOES want the OSU job...or at least something comparable (in the Midwest, where he is comfortable) like a Penn State, Oklahoma or perhaps even Texas. Anything less, and he will simply stay and keep building what he's started, an act which will only serve to raise his stock when the opening he wants at an elite midwestern school comes open.
By all accounts, he and his family LOVE the Ames area...unlike guys like Chizik who reportedly despised it...and he sees himself as a builder, a man who wants to leave a true legacy. So while I would agree that he will in time move on to something bigger, its not going to be this year or even next season...perhaps after 4-5 years of sustained success he will be lured...less by money...than by the challenge of running an elite program like Ohio State.
The OC is Tom Manning who won the OL coach of the year after their last season at Toledo.
ISU & Iowa have nearly the same limitations being located in a small market. Iowa has had 2 coaches in 40 years and Fry stayed when he turned around a horrid program. Why wouldn't Campbell stay. My guess is that many Iowa fans are threatened and desperately want him gone so it makes them feel better.
If you think Tennessee or Florida state are “mid level” you don’t know football. Too be expected from a non football school fan like you. Tennessee has a great football tradition and they want back to the glory days. A lot more money would come from Tennessee than iowa state.
How has Campbell fared against Iowa ? That’s what I thought. I remember when Jim Walden won at Oklahoma. How did that work out .
I have been wondering what it was that kept Hayden Fry at Iowa. Or Bob Devaney at Nebraska. Nebraska attendance in the year prior to Bob Devaney's arrival was 27,691. While it wasn't as in as dire straits as Iowa was pre-Fry, it had some poor years.
I don't know Nebraska as well as Iowa, but my understanding is that they kept their key assistants at Nebraska. Hayden wasn't able to do that and the program started to slip when Alvarez, Snyder and others left to lead their own programs. So I am not only worried about retaining Campbell, but retaining his staff as long as possible.
When a team that lost to Liberty, UT-San Antonio, and Duke in the non-conference is taking your conference's "top teams" to the wire, you have a serious problem.
When same said team blows out the best team in the B10 at their place, what does that say about the B10?
The thing not being discussed is assistant salaries. ISU has 9 assistants who make under $2M combined. At a school like Tenn or Nebby they will get 4-5 M for them all. Jard to tell a small group of buddies that u got a chance to double all their salaries but u wanna stay put
Adjust? Our staff? You're kidding, right?
I honestly don't have too big of an issue with our staff (yes, I certainly complain and whine at time), but since the departure of Norm, adjustments aren't on the top of the list of things they are good at--or seem willing to try--over the years.
Was there ever a coach that started a new job that said, "I am only here until I get something better."?????
This talk is all a week early. Lose to TCU and the talk goes away. Win 2 of the next 3 then he is likely gone. At best they win 1 of the next 3. Not trying to flame, just being realistic. If Iowa had that schedule the next three weeks, I would think the same thing.
You might be correct, but I would say the biggest improvement has come on the defensive side of the ball from game 1 to where the Cyclones are after game 7. The offense was pretty strong the 2nd half of the 2016 season.
Some of that has to do with getting our DB’s healthy, but probably moreso, fitting the scheme with the personnel.
