Kirk Herbstreit on Iowa's State's Head Coach: "He's gone."
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That would be a great point if you haven’t lost to Texas and Iowa, two offensive juggernauts this year.
Remember when Butch Jones/Tennessee destroyed us in the bowl game, the Tennessee fans were trolling us, and everybody thought Tennessee was back? So much for that....
I just wonder with all of Herbstreit's connections, why would he tweet this unless he knew something might be in the works? Herbstreit said he is gone. Those are pretty strong words for somebody very well connected to college football.
If I was Campbell, I would stay in Ames for now. He's going to have a recruiting edge in Iowa within another year or so while Iowa is looking at a downward trend in terms of competitiveness. Within a year, ISU has as good of WRs as Ferentz has ever had, pretty close to the DJK/McNutt years. I think McNutt and DJK were the last really good WRs Iowa had. Playmakers. Winners.
It's amazing to me, how little people sitting on sports boards, understand how contracts work in sports.
Please answer the question. Why would Ferentz want to stay at Iowa?
Bottom line is, we don't know what is actually going thru the coaches minds. They may have reasons to want to stay or eventually leave on their own accord.
So baylor is good because most b12 teams beat them by the same as utsa did? ok lol.
BIG difference between 7 DECENT teams and GOOD teams....
The guy has 5 wins this year, lets calm down. You may very well be 5-5 in a few weeks and that is playing in probably the worst power 5 conf!
Don't worry no major program is gonna offer a guy because he won 6 or 7 games in an inferior conference lol.
According to you, I guess it says the hawks are quite a bit better than OK and WAY better than OSU....so how could OSU be our best team?
That makes a lot of sense
Yeah, he was a good one, especially combined with MVB. Still, even in 2015 they were underutilized because of the poor pass protection. When McNutt and DJK and Stanzi were lighting it up Iowa had Bulaga, Calloway, Eubanks, J. Ferentz, D. Richardson, Reiff, and J. Vandervelde either starting or backing up starters. Just world's better at every position compared to Iowa now. Moeaki and Reisner as TEs. 2008-2010, Iowa had a great offense with stars at nearly all positions. I miss seeing that type of talent in an Iowa uniform. Too many weak spots on the team and too few strengths.
Sorry ISU fan but Herby is more than likely correct.....I mean ISU is not even the "best" school in their own state- that state just happens to not have fertile recruiting and low population. ISU hasn't even been able to keep successful coaches in historically successful ISU programs that were alums of said program.........Cambell has no history or connection to ISU, he had a good thing going at Toledo and used that to get a D1 job at ISU- you don't think he would use the ISU job to get a job at a "better" school that has a larger fan base, is a flagship school in their state, and has the ability to pay much much more....it might have been a dick post by Herby, but that doesn't mean it isn't going to come true. He gone
I know some big donors/alumni at ISU, people that are well connected with the ISU athletic department. Campbell and his wife are very happy in Ames, in fact they are in the process of building a new house. Campbell himself is very happy and very appreciated with ISU facilities, resources, and lot of creative freedom that has been given to him by Jamie Pollard. He also is very appreciated the strong support form ISU fans and alumni in the last two years. He ins't bolting anytime soon as the morons in the media keep saying he is as well as the posters from other fan base keep assuming he is. He may be a young head coach but he is smart enough to know that bigger isn't always better. Campbell will get a nice bump in pay as well his top assistants at the end of the season. He will be around for 5 or 6 seasons before he might consider a move to another head coaching job. If you read any of his interviews from the newspapers and sports websites or watch his youtube interviews you can tell he is firmly commented to ISU.
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That's not really accurate. Have you looked at how young Iowa is? The odds are greater that Iowa will be a stronger team in two years than they are now.
Who cares if he stays or goes ... as long as he is in Iowa he will always play second fiddle to Kirk and the Hawkeyes.
I don't care if they have Saban or Bear Bryant it's always us then them and always will be.
I don't care if they have Saban or Bear Bryant it's always us then them and always will be.
I realized how much clout CMC has when he got rid of "Sweet Caroline"
I am sure he is very appreciative, that doesn't mean he is staying. Also, I love how people always grasp onto what a coach says in an interview about possible job offers and such........I mean what are they supposed to say? If you can't Freddy and Carl there is no way you are keeping Campbell. Maybe he sticks around one more year, but as you said he may be young but is probably smart enough to use the momentum of this year to get a better job....either way it is only a matter of time
Sure, Iowa may be better in two years. But how much better will Iowa State be if this season helps his recruiting dramatically? In the long run, Campbell wins out because Ferentz is over 60 and running the same offense from 20 years ago. If the idea is Brian Ferentz takes over at some point, then Campbell would have a huge edge as BF hasn't proven anything as an offensive coordinator yet. I don't think that's his natural skill, innovating and calling plays. Yeah, he's in his first season, but he's performing OJT right now. He gets a head coaching gig in four or five years if Kirk steps down (IF!!!) then he falls way behind others unless he just lights it up in terms of innovation, play calling, and PLAYER EXECUTION (because that is a reflection on recruiting and coaching ability, getting guys ready to play a specific scheme).
But Campbell might leave before then so who knows. The other reason he should stay is that he could land a long-term contract with ISU that is in his favor. If he goes somewhere like Nebraska (especially given their high turnover) he'd better produce almost immediately or he'd be gone and fortunate just to land a Group of Five job again. Worse, he might have to step down to coordinator instead of the lucrative money of head coaching. The more a coach steps up to schools expecting perennial top 25, top 10 finishes, the sharper the fall if they don't succeed quickly (unless they have Kirk Ferentz's buyout clause). Stay at Iowa State and get a wicked buyout clause. Then, after a few more years of success and financial comfort for life, take a crack at a Tennessee, Nebraska, or UCLA, a team with a tradition of success that has mostly underperformed for years or a decade.
Iowa State isn't going to suddenly turn into a perennial football power. Best case scenario, they cycle up and down just like Iowa does. Three years and everyone will be calling for Campbell's head, just like they do Kirk's (and then suddenly he pulls a 9-10 win season out of his rear).
Not enough body of work at Iowa State to predict, but beating two top 10 teams in the same season after never having done it before ... with a backup QB. He's a good coach, a better coach than the Ferentzes in contemporary college football. It doesn't matter that it's Iowa State. Kansas State once sucked forever and ever and then Bill Snyder showed them a way to be relevant. It can happen. And Iowa could fall back to pre-Hayden Fry days. Well, no. Iowa's in the B10 West. They should be able to finish tied for third most years. B10 West has to be one of the weakest divisions in Power 5 football.
Yup, I remember the days of thinking that Iowa would be a perennial 10 win team. Good luck with that!
Considering the Big 12 is BY FAR the worst P5 conference I would say your last argument is irrelevant. Also, considering the Big Ten is arguable the best conference (at least top 2 with no argument) that further weakens your argument. Campbell is not staying at ISU for long and if he were smart he would leave after this year because he has the momentum.
You realize how ignorant you sound, right? Pick any Big XII school and look at their schedule. Then look at Wisconsin's schedule, for example. The Big XII plays the toughest schedule year in and year out since they play all teams in their conference.
Lets see who is the ignorant one and here is some objectivity to my claim as well- please provide some for yours:
OK: Not looking at conference play here is their non conference schedules and their records against this piss poor non conference schedule. Oh cool they play each other with inflated records because here is each teams non conference schedule which is pretty laughable! Of those here are the p5 teams that each team has played with over .500 record
1) USC- Loss
2) OSU- Oklahoma W
3) Iowa- L
4) Va tech- Loss
THat is freaking four winning P5 teams that the conference has played out of 30. 4 out of freaking 30. I don't even know who some of these teams are? Not to mention in those 4 games they won 1 game........
Baylor: Liberty, UTSA, and Duke
Kansas: SEMO, Central Mich, Ohio
ISU- Northern Iowa, Iowa, Akron
W Virginia- Va tech, East Carolina, Del State
Texas- Maryland, USC, San Jose State
TCU; Jackson State, Arkansas, SMU
K State: Central Ark, Charlotte, Vandy
Texas Tech: Eastern Wash., ASU, Houston
Oklahoma- UTEP, The OSU, Tulane
OSU- Tulsa, So Alabama, Pitt
Oh yeah and you can take a look at this website and see for yourself who's conference SOS is better
https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...otball-strength-of-schedule-rankings-2017-sos
Some Recap:
#1 Maryland Big Ten
#3 Nebby Big Ten
#7 Indiana Big Ten
#8 Rutgers Big Ten
#14 Baylor Winless Big 12 (helps to give your schedule 8 wins and no losses)
18 Purdue Big Ten
21 Texas Big 12
23 Iowa Big Ten
24 NW Big Ten
25 Texas Tech Big 12
27 PSU Big Ten
29 Kansas Big 12 ( 1 win- helps to give your opponent 7 more wins and only 1 loss)
Shall I go on? Next time you claim somebody is ignorant, make sure that it is not easily proven that you are the one who is in fact ignorant
NCAA strength of schedule has Big 10 teams at 1,2,15,21,21,24,26,29,32,39,55,62,68 and 76. Big 12 at 5,6,10,11,16,22,31,47,50 and 91. Easy to see the Big 12 is tougher. Half the conference in the top 25 sos and 9/10 in top 50. And watch the gap widen over the next few weeks. For example Penn State has those juggernauts from Maryland, Rutgers and Nebraska still to worry about while Oklahoma plays OK State, TCU and West Virginia. This isn't even a debate to those that watch all of college football instead of just Iowa or the Big 10.
Who has OK played in b12 that is good? Not a single good team.
So because they play a bunch of easy game early that makes their schedule hard? lol
They played KSU BU & TX and won by an avg of around 7 points. Yeah that sounds dominant. Everyone has beat baylor. MD, a mediocre b1g team, beat tx. Vanderbilt beat ksu. Oh WOW OK beat them by 6-7 points on average....total domination! Not to mention their loss to iswho lol.
BTW that juggernaut MD beat tx unless some other team....
You got beat, at home, by the current 4th place team in wiscys division bud
Yeah you should really talk about their sos.....
BTW if you had a schedule like MD you'd be lucky to get 3 conf wins
b12 is apparently 4-6 vs other power 5 schools(ooc).
https://www.topdan.com/sports/college-football-conference-records/2017.html
https://www.topdan.com/sports/college-football-conference-records/2017.html
B10 East is a beast. B10 West is Wisconsin and that's it. The rest of the B10 West sucks. Period. Doesn't matter if Campbell stays or goes, really. Iowa is a mediocre B10 team as long as Ferentz is coach. After that? Who knows? They could end up being a lot worse. But Iowa State right now looks like a program heading in the right direction. Iowa looks more and more like Minnesota every day. Oh, and Iowa would probably lose to over half the B12 teams this year so your argument is irrelevant. B10 West, outside of Wisconsin, are like B12 bottom feeders this year. They just suck. Which is good, because Iowa gets to play Purdue and Nebraska yet. So 7-5 is a possibility this year. Wow, what an achievement that will be.
The Florida job has to be the #1 job opening, correct? I think Florida was smart to fire the HC now and not leave him hanging; now Florida can focus on securing the best possible coach available....Scott Frost?
Will Campbell stay in Ames? No one truly knows outside of Matt and his wife. I sure hope he does, but no one really knows where his heart is.
The pissing contest about which conference is better is laughable. I'm a Big12 homer, so here is my take. No one in the Big12 gets to hide. You can argue that KU is historically awful, and Baylor is awful this year, and that no one plays defense (which is not true this year - see ISU/TCU game). Fine.
My barometer is College GameDay. Like them or not, those guys are 1000x more informed on college football than anyone here. When they agreed this morning that "top to bottom the Big12 is strongest conference this year", that's all I need to here.
The pissing contest about which conference is better is laughable. I'm a Big12 homer, so here is my take. No one in the Big12 gets to hide. You can argue that KU is historically awful, and Baylor is awful this year, and that no one plays defense (which is not true this year - see ISU/TCU game). Fine.
My barometer is College GameDay. Like them or not, those guys are 1000x more informed on college football than anyone here. When they agreed this morning that "top to bottom the Big12 is strongest conference this year", that's all I need to here.
