Like I said earlier.....let’s bookmark this thread for Selection Sunday.
Last chance for a signature win..
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Fine with me. I don't see Iowa winning the BTT but you are your buddy will look foolish when Iowa is firmly on the 2 and possibly 1 line if they win out.
No, I didn't call him stupid. I said his post was. And that's not the reason it was stupid. He said even if Iowa were to win out, including the B1G Ten tournament, they would be at best a 3 seed. That is ridiculous. They would be a lock for at least a 2 seed if that indeed happened. The fact I believe Iowa likely won't win out is not relevant.
Honestly, the real piece of work is your reading comprehension. He clearly and unambiguously said if Iowa were to win out they would be at best a 3 seed. The potential for a 2 seed, in his view, was Iowa would have to win out plus have a bunch of other teams lose, and even then it would be iffy according to him. And that is absolutely ridiculous. Iowa has been ranked in the Top 10 the vast majority of the season. If they were to win out and win the conference tournament of the best conference in basketball this year, they would be a lock for a 2 seed regardless of what anyone else does. That's not even debatable.
I agree let’s bookmark it! But we need to stick to the original points. IF Iowa wins today +1 more they’ll be no lower than a 3 seed. If they win today +2 more they’ll be a 2 seed.
nobody made a prediction on whether they WOULD win these games it’s IF they win these games. I don’t think anybody is denying that if they go 1-3 down the stretch we’re looking at a 4 seed possibly even a 5.
I would agree with this. I can't see a #1 under the very best of circumstances, but reality tells me they'll end up a 4 at best given their current play.
I agree the 1 line is pretty dang set however if Iowa won out (and I’d be SHOCKED) they’d get it over OSU.. would likely have 10 quad 1 wins.
Yeah, I'm in no way predicting Iowa wins out. Very unlikely. However, in the event they were to, they would be a lock for a #2 seed. Again, I don't see how that's even debatable.
The title of this post made me think: What IS Iowa's signature win? At Wisconsin (8-8 in last 16 games)? North Carolina game looks a little better now, but Iowa SHOULD beat bubble teams at home. The MSU win @MSU will prove to be most impressive (and of course I envision a doomsday scenario where MSU keeps rolling and beats Iowa in BTT now!), but what marquee win does Iowa actually have? Honestly, If Iowa had no hype to start season, and say were ranked as borderline top-25 team, I don't think they're in conversation for top-3 seed, let alone ranked as high as they are.
I agree there’s not a huge win there. Again your last line around the “conversation for a 3 seed” is simply not accurate with how the committee works. When they released their top 16 Iowa was 13 in the midst of some struggles. Only loss is at Michigan since then. Iowa is absolutely in the conversation for a 3 seed and as a high as a 2 right now according to bracketologist.. They’ll certainly have to finish 3-2 down the stretch to stay on that 3 or higher but that’s doable.
I've said this about bracketologists before and I'll say it again. They are like weathermen who get to keep revising their predictions until they finally get it right.
Except for at the end of the season the rent check comes due and they get scored.. that never happens with weathermen. So why not pay attention to the best ones we have instead of saying “I don’t feel like Iowa is a 2 seed”.. Not saying you are saying that but a few in this thread are.
And I never once said Iowa wouldn’t be a 2 if they won out. Not once. But thanks for playing.
I stated I didn’t think they would win out, and that they are not a 2 right now.
You are the one with comprehension trouble. He clearly said Iowa could still be a 2 seed.
I agree wholeheartedly that Iowa is probably on the right side of a 3-seed currently. BUT, my point was in reference as to whether they would be had they not been hyped and ranked so high in the preseason? If they're pre-season 22 or 24 instead of top-5, are they, based on their resume of "decent" wins and bad losses (Minny and Indiana aren't making tourney), and overall poor non-conference strength of schedule, on the 3-seed? I don't think they would be.
What do you think they are right now? I think most people agree they would need a massive win today to be a 2..
I think the bigger concern is just being as healthy as we can be going in to the tourney, and gaining some momentum . A 2-3 seed would be nice, but even a 4-5 would be good all things considered . The Hawks will be fine come tourney time. B1G has been hell but it has prepared them well for the tourney IMO. Hopefully avoid Gonzaga or Baylor early on and see what happens .
I see what you’re saying. Committee doesn’t take any media poll into consideration when stack ranking teams. It’s solely done off their net profile. Warren Nolan is a great website to visit to see what they take into consideration. I agree they somewhat start there with pre season expectations but ultimately it comes down to metrics that are not based on polls.
But please let us know how seriously you're taking this. I don't think you've illustrated that quite well-enough yet.....
You have too much fun as it is......
Hmmmm......good question. Tough to say. I’d like to think a 3, but given the lack of real “signature” wins, it would not surprise me if they were a 4. But....its nothing but conjecture at this point.
So I would say a 3 or 4.
Based on their likely seed, Iowa will have at LEAST one more chance for a resume-enhancing win in the BTT.
That’s fair then.. I was just going after the response that Iowa is “nowhere near a 2 seed right now” that the one person replied with.. that’s just simply not true
I was going to ask him what should happen to them if they lose this game? They’re on the 2-3 line right now. If he’s pissed about losses to top 5 teams I wonder how he feels about other teams getting run by top 130 teams..
I’m thinking Iowa on pace to be a 3 seed if finish 2-1 last 3 games and win one in BTT maybe even so still if they lose first one. Look at this last week alone a ton of teams ranked have lost. Including 7 of the top 10 as it looks like Nova is about to lose.
Lets compare some of the teams on the 2/3 line and see their top 2 'signature wins.' I'm going to leave out Ohio State and Illinois currently as they are on the 1/2 lines and I would argue clearly ahead of Iowa.
I'm going to use net ranking. Then I will put their quad 1 record. I'm using teams that with bracket matrix are on the 2/3 line. If you have a team that is more deserving than the ones listed I would like to know.
Houston (net ranking 4)-Best wins. Texas Tech #15/ SMU #56. quad 1 record 2-1
Alabama(net ranking 9) - Best wins. Arkansas #19/Tennessee #22 quad 1 record 7-4
Villanova(net ranking 8)- Best wins. Texas #27/ U-Conn #36. quad 1 record 2-3
West Virginia (net ranking 12)-Best wins. Kansas #11/Texas Tech #15. quad 1 record 6-6
Iowa (net ranking 6)-Best wins. Purdue #21/Wisconsin #23. quad 1 record 5-6
Exaaaaactly. Like I said it doesn’t bother me if people don’t truly pay attention to how CBB works but when they pretend like they do talking about AP rankings and Iowa sucks.. dumb
That being said today's game is huuuuuge. I'm not extremely confident because as a Hawk fan I'm used to being let down. But I've been surprised/wrong before and would love to get a big win today!
Let me get this straight.
We're ranked #9 in the country, and in a lot of metric rankings, some of which influence seeding, even higher; numerous teams around our ranking are losing games; and people think if we win out, which would include probably three top 10 wins, that we wouldn't be a 2 seed?
We're ranked #9 in the country, and in a lot of metric rankings, some of which influence seeding, even higher; numerous teams around our ranking are losing games; and people think if we win out, which would include probably three top 10 wins, that we wouldn't be a 2 seed?
Well basically people that must not follow college basketball think what you just said.
Yes, that is what is being said. As usual, for certain fans, Iowa is either the best or they are pathetic. There can be no adherence to reality by a "true" Iowa fan. 😛
Smh. You are dense. Thank you for re-affirming you have reading comprehension issues. It'll save me time in the future.
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