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Lawsuit filed against Des Moines Register for ‘misleading subscribers’ with final Iowa poll

Still waiting for an explanation of on what grounds this lawsuit should proceed. You don’t get to just file a lawsuit over something you don’t like and then get every scrap of info you want.

“what really went on?” You’re starting already from the assumption that something nefarious went down.


PROVIDE ONE IOTA OF EVIDENCE THAT SHE INTENTIONALLY RELEASED A BAD POLL.
Dude. That is why the lawsuit was filed. The 3vidence you are desperate for is the poll itself
 
Dude. That is why the lawsuit was filed. The 3vidence you are desperate for is the poll itself
Dude. An inaccurate poll is evidence of nothing.

Every election all I hear is complaints about how inaccurate polls are, how they can't be trusted, etc. Yet somehow this one single poll needs to be examined like the Zapruder film.
 
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I didn't vote for anyone. Want to talk about the topic at hand? I asked a legitimate question. Do you wonder why/how she got it so wrong? Take your politics out of it. It would be interesting to see how it happened.
I answered. A vote for nobody was a vote for Trump.
 
He said what if. What would you think if intent was shown?

Back to my post, I can agree that deceived might be unwarranted. Certainly mislead without comment on intent. The poll sent shockwaves across the whole country for the exact reason you said. If it was that close in Iowa that meant it could be a huge lead for Harris elsewhere. I think it would be interesting to learn how that happened. We are not likely to learn that though.
Probably not….. on TV last month she was waiting to see the “official” vote breakdown of Iowa voters coming from Paul Pate’s office, to see if her number of “will definitely vote” were in line with whether or not they did in fact vote….She maintained (and showed) her numbers were consistent with the past 2-3 election polls she did (and in 2016 she NAILED exactly, to everyone’s surprise….one of “the other” possibilities is that respondents “lied” to the folks who collected the data, BUT she did say, that has never been an issue before for her in conducting her election polls for The Regiister. I would just find it ridiculous that she intentionally falsified data…Her reputation has NEVER been based on politics and she has been uncanningly accurate in most of her Iowa poll projections over the years. She didn’t become “The Gold Standard for Iowa Politics” by flaking it. Shit happens. Everything isn’t a conspiracy….except when you deal with Donald Trump.
 
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She will get her chance in court.
She doesn’t have to prove Jack shit. And the chances of this bogus suit getting in front of a judge are almost nil.

I guess when your favored news sources are losing billion dollar lawsuits for lying, you have to cling onto anything you can find to convince yourself that others are just as bad. But you really look dumb and partisan beyond hope.
 
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while we are suing people for stupid stuff, I am going to sue the people who answered the poll as not voting for trump but actually did.
 
No this poll was way out of line. If nothing nefarious is going on then that will be proven in discovery.

That is the key here, the lawsuit allows for discovery and then we will really get to learn what went on. Methods, sample, emails, conversations. I, for one, am here for it.

Doesnt matter if it never goes to trial IMO.
You people are Nazis. You really are.
 
Yeah or your side bends every rule they can until they get caught. Probably getting caught is my bet.
WTF are you even talking about? You people are nuts. What "rules" are getting bent here? Again, WTF are you even talking about?

Republican pollsters like Rasmussen are way off regularly, but outlier polls that showed a democrat in the lead that then turned out to be off are now criminal or worthy of law suits? You're Nazi's, and full of shit hypocrites.

You want to talk "lawfare"? JFC.
 
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WTF are you even talking about? You people are nuts. What "rules" are getting bent here? Again, WTF are you even talking about?

Republican pollsters like Rasmussen are way off regularly, but outlier polls that showed a democrat in the lead that then turned out to be off are now criminal or worthy of law suits? You're Nazi's, and full of shit hypocrites.

You want to talk "lawfare"? JFC.
You guys made the rules now we are playing to win.

Not Nazis. Like at all. But keep saying if it makes you feel superior. You side needs it. Losers up and down the ticket lol.
 
Did she ever state how they go about generating a “random sampling of people”?

The lawsuit doesn’t interest me but the science of getting a quality sampling does.
 
That lawfare against you political opponents is now an approved method of campaigning.
As expected, just completely full of shit.

Donald Trump is a criminal who has been tried and convicted by a jury. That's not "lawfare", that's the criminal justice system working properly.

What you're talking about is wildly launching law suits at anything/anyone who you perceive as a "political opponent", including apparently even non-partisan neutral pollsters who produce results you don't like. This is unprecedented misuse of the courts, it can't be based on anything Democrats have done, because this type of lawsuit is completely unheard of.

Crazy, frivolous.
 
As expected, just completely full of shit.

Donald Trump is a criminal who has been tried and convicted by a jury. That's not "lawfare", that's the criminal justice system working properly.

What you're talking about is wildly launching law suits at anything/anyone who you perceive as a "political opponent", including apparently even non-partisan neutral pollsters who produce results you don't like. This is unprecedented misuse of the courts, it can't be based on anything Democrats have done, because this type of lawsuit is completely unheard of.

Crazy, frivolous.
and for the Dems... desperate to show honesty which is lacking
 
I seem to recall seeing that Faegre Drinker (very solid firm) is representing the paper, and that FIRE (that's right, the one that rates university speech policies) is representing her pro bono. While I'm sure FIRE will do a very good job, I do hope that they don't make the case about them (which is sometimes what happens when advocacy organizations provide this sort of support).
 
It has damn near every election.
Yes, but it was THIS election. Dems spend so much time blasting and name calling any and all R's... that people are supposed to believe these simpleminded, hateful and uneducated idiots simply grew a smarts and decided to change their vote or not vote in such a massive late swing that people are supposed to believe that she was guilty of a silly me error.... your are just nuts.

In a couple weeks I will be addressing a large audience on corn price forecast for 2025 and current fall deliver is about $4.55 and if I check my phone a couple of days before and the ADM website made an error and said the price is $6.00 with no real balance sheet changes..... and I don't check my numbers, I would be done.

She is a guilty as hell for trying to inflence people... or was some kind nuts about the thought of Trump winning she wanted to believe an error. She's not 25 and she's not incompetent or stupid

One of those angles makes a lot more sense.

As far as lawsuit worthiness, discovery brings that out.

Minimally it toasted her and D.R's credibility.

It sounds rather....Trumpish.
 
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Yes, but it was THIS election. Dems spend so much time blasting and name calling any and all R's... that people are supposed to believe these simpleminded, hateful and uneducated idiots simply grew a smarts and decided to change their vote or not vote in such a massive late swing that people are supposed to believe that she was guilty of a silly me error.... your are just nuts.

In a couple weeks I will be addressing a large audience on corn price forecast for 2025 and current fall deliver is about $4.55 and if I check my phone a couple of days before and the ADM website made an error and said the price is $6.00 with no real balance sheet changes..... and I don't check my numbers, I would be done.

She is a guilty as hell for trying to inflence people... or was some kind nuts about the thought of Trump winning she wanted to believe an error. She's not 25 and she's not incompetent or stupid

One of those angles makes a lot more sense.

As far as lawsuit worthiness, discovery brings that out.

Minimally it toased her and D.R's credibility.

It sounds rather....Trumpish.
Somebody day drinking here? Argle Barlgle.....
 
As expected, just completely full of shit.

Donald Trump is a criminal who has been tried and convicted by a jury. That's not "lawfare", that's the criminal justice system working properly.

What you're talking about is wildly launching law suits at anything/anyone who you perceive as a "political opponent", including apparently even non-partisan neutral pollsters who produce results you don't like. This is unprecedented misuse of the courts, it can't be based on anything Democrats have done, because this type of lawsuit is completely unheard of.

Crazy, frivolous.
He was put on trial to keep him from winning the presidency. Nothing more. He is guilty of being a republican that the democratic machine attacked through the courts. The only things that stuck were manufactured bulkshit that will be overturned on appeal. The Civil trials were a clownshow and will be gone. The NY appeals court has already indicated as much. The fraud trial was a joke and will also be gone. He will have been convicted of nothing a year from now and nothing will be paid to that loon on the civil trial.

Jack Smith has gone into hiding as he should. Fanni Willis will be lucky to not be in jail soon. The documents case in Florida was dismissed already and the FBI was caught manufacturing evidence to leak to the newspapers.


You are the nazis. Everything that has happened to Trump is evidence of the fascism your party represents
 
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He was put on trial to keep him from winning the presidency. Nothing more. He is guilty of being a republican that the democratic machine attacked through the courts. The only things that stuck were manufactured bulkshit that will be overturned on appeal. The Civil trials were a clownshow and will be gone. The NY appeals court has already indicated as much. The fraud trial was a trial and will also be gone. He will have been convicted of nothing a year from now and nothing will be paid to that loon on the civil trial.

Jack Smith has gone into hiding as he should. Fanni Willis will be lucky to not be in jail soon. The documents case in Georgia was dismissed already and the FBI was caught manufacturing evidence to leak to the newspapers.


You are the nazis. Everything that has happened to Trump is evidence of the fascism your party represents
Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, fascist personality cult gonna fascist personality cult.
 
He was put on trial to keep him from winning the presidency. Nothing more. He is guilty of being a republican that the democratic machine attacked through the courts. The only things that stuck were manufactured bulkshit that will be overturned on appeal. The Civil trials were a clownshow and will be gone. The NY appeals court has already indicated as much. The fraud trial was a trial and will also be gone. He will have been convicted of nothing a year from now and nothing will be paid to that loon on the civil trial.

Jack Smith has gone into hiding as he should. Fanni Willis will be lucky to not be in jail soon. The documents case in Georgia was dismissed already and the FBI was caught manufacturing evidence to leak to the newspapers.


You are the nazis. Everything that has happened to Trump is evidence of the fascism your party represents
Hawk….. He (Trump) was vs a phuquin’ traitor who tried to halt the orderly transfer of power, which is by Constitutional definition, is an act of treason.
He he ad “National secrets” in his personal possession which he failed to return to the Bational Archives when asked… so the FBI went to his compound, and took possession of them.
He threatened the Sec of Stare of Georgia to “find @ him votes that didn’t exist swing the election in his direction.
He was found guilty of fraudulent bookkeeping schemes in the state of NY…34 counts…
He has been given every damned courtesy and break by the Courts imaginable Ofer the past 2 years, yet he whines like a little baby.
Now tell me again why this convicted felon should be allowed to take office next week?
 
Hawk….. He (Trump) was vs a phuquin’ traitor who tried to halt the orderly transfer of power, which is by Constitutional definition, is an act of treason.
He he ad “National secrets” in his personal possession which he failed to return to the Bational Archives when asked… so the FBI went to his compound, and took possession of them.
He threatened the Sec of Stare of Georgia to “find @ him votes that didn’t exist swing the election in his direction.
He was found guilty of fraudulent bookkeeping schemes in the state of NY…34 counts…
He has been given every damned courtesy and break by the Courts imaginable Ofer the past 2 years, yet he whines like a little baby.
Now tell me again why this convicted felon should be allowed to take office next week?
Traitor convicted of bookkeeping scheme. The horror
 
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These a-holes talk about "lawfare", the only reason that Trump is still around in 2024 is because of the bullshit "lawfare" the Republican party engaged in for decades against the Clinton's that culminated in the emails nonsense in 2016. With the help of the "liberal" msm and that idiot Comey.

So of course these total full of shit hypocrites have as their hero a guy who is a zillion times more corrupt and a rapist and anti-American fascist to boot.

"Lawfare". Eff these people. Yeah, the Dems really sicked that "lawfare" against John McCain and Mitt Romney when they ran.
 
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