Leaker of U.S. secret documents worked on military base, friend says
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It'll be interesting to see what this guys job was....
Thousands of military personnel and government employees around OG’s age, working entry-to-low-level positions, could plausibly have access to classified documents like the ones he allegedly shared, according to U.S. officials
Maybe not the most secret of secrets. A show-off.
Maybe not the most secret of secrets. A show-off.
Been a lot of talk about over classification for years.
If this dude is indeed low level and had access to these materials it might be a byproduct of the "over classification" problem.
The more stuff you over classify the more folks you have to give access....so they can do their jobs. If we were serious about this problem that's been identified for years you could tighten up access.
I think we should send this guy over to the Ukraine and leave it to them to mete out any punishment.
Huh?
If the stuff he leaked is "so damaging", it probably needed higher classification status, rather than being "overclassified".
Reality Winner is probably standing by on how this one plays out.
Point is when you over classify stuff with things that actually need to be classified you end up with bleed over.....folks getting access to material they really don't have a "need to know" ...
The more you classify the more folks you need to give clearance to...
Anyway, maybe these materials were part of this guys job....we'll see.
Which is illegal; you're only supposed to access the material that is relevant to your job.
Do otherwise, and spend 20 yrs in Leavenworth.
True...that's how it supposed to work.
Reality is a little different...might be one of the reasons we have a problem with leaks of classified material.
Sounds like an "enforcement" problem. That might be handled with serious prison time and executions to set examples.
I see this as a separate problem,.. once a document is classified, it needs to be treated as such.
The man behind a massive leak of U.S. government secrets that has exposed spying on allies, revealed the grim prospects for Ukraine’s war with Russia and ignited diplomatic fires for the White House is a young, charismatic gun enthusiast who shared highly classified documents with a group of far-flung acquaintances searching for companionship amid the isolation of the pandemic.
United by their mutual love of guns, military gear and God, the group of roughly two dozen — mostly men and boys — formed an invitation-only clubhouse in 2020 on Discord, an online platform popular with gamers. But they paid little attention last year when the man some call “OG” posted a message laden with strange acronyms and jargon. The words were unfamiliar, and few people read the long note, one of the members explained. But he revered OG, the elder leader of their tiny tribe, who claimed to know secrets that the government withheld from ordinary people.
The young member read OG’s message closely, and the hundreds more that he said followed on a regular basis for months. They were, he recalled, what appeared to be near-verbatim transcripts of classified intelligence documents that OG indicated he had brought home from his job on a “military base,” which the member declined to identify. OG claimed he spent at least some of his day inside a secure facility that prohibited cellphones and other electronic devices, which could be used to document the secret information housed on government computer networks or spooling out from printers. He annotated some of the hand-typed documents, the member said, translating arcane intel-speak for the uninitiated, such as explaining that “NOFORN” meant the information in the document was so sensitive it must not be shared with foreign nationals.
United by their mutual love of guns, military gear and God, the group of roughly two dozen — mostly men and boys — formed an invitation-only clubhouse in 2020 on Discord, an online platform popular with gamers. But they paid little attention last year when the man some call “OG” posted a message laden with strange acronyms and jargon. The words were unfamiliar, and few people read the long note, one of the members explained. But he revered OG, the elder leader of their tiny tribe, who claimed to know secrets that the government withheld from ordinary people.
The young member read OG’s message closely, and the hundreds more that he said followed on a regular basis for months. They were, he recalled, what appeared to be near-verbatim transcripts of classified intelligence documents that OG indicated he had brought home from his job on a “military base,” which the member declined to identify. OG claimed he spent at least some of his day inside a secure facility that prohibited cellphones and other electronic devices, which could be used to document the secret information housed on government computer networks or spooling out from printers. He annotated some of the hand-typed documents, the member said, translating arcane intel-speak for the uninitiated, such as explaining that “NOFORN” meant the information in the document was so sensitive it must not be shared with foreign nationals.
He knew what he was doing was illegal, and should be incarcerated for a couple decades or shot.
Are we falling into the "but his feelings were all jacked up during the pandemic" excuses? What happened to the f*** your feelings crowd? Does it not apply to gun-toting, religious MAGAs?
Seperate but related IMO.
The more you classify...the more folks you have to give access...the higher potential for bleed over and folks having access that don't really have a "need to know".
The more people that need access the higher the volume of background checks and perhaps less scrutiny on folks applying for access because security clearance folks are trying to clear a backlog.
It contributes to the problem IMO....
He doesn't sound like a "Brandon" fan.
Imma guess he was duped by Russian propaganda in his little 'chat rooms'. Easy mark.
Ukraine war live updates: Leaker of secret documents reportedly worked on U.S. military base; Pentagon moves to ‘restrict access’
Ukraine war live updates: Leaker of secret documents reportedly worked on U.S. military base; Pentagon moves to 'restrict access'
“The Department of Defense say they have taken steps to further restrict access to sensitive information,” White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said.
if this is true, pentagon's IT security dept needs to be flogged. these days in the corporate world developers can only deploy appropriate/authorized code, and cannot even see (without explicitly granted permissions) other teams' code etc and all this is automatically enforced. and here we have an inability to classify/secure documents. it's insane.
Joe isn’t concerned, sounds like nothing to worry about.
His alleged name: Jack Teixeira
Why does a National Guard unit have access to this level of classified and top secret information? Is this unit primarily working in intelligence? Obviously internal controls are severely lacking.
My first question as well. A lot of heads should roll.
THIS is the kind of thing the House should spend its time on, not Hunter and Twitter.
Isn't he the one who ran the chat group? The thing I read earlier suggested it might have been someone that did the leaking.
Depends on what the unit is and what their job is. If it was an intelligence unit and part of their job was parsing info about NATO and how Ukraine is affecting it, then yes, they would absolutely have a need to know.
I was in a CBRN unit, had a TS/SCI, and we had access to all kinds of chem/bio weapon info. We didn't directly work with weapons, and were purely defensive, but we had a need to know so we could effectively respond to an incident. Easier to identify stuff when you know what it is, what's in it and what it does.
Not sure. It sounds like the ANG guy's arrest is imminent. There, I saved him some free time.
i love the part where he says he won't identify his friend. (1) yeah right (2) you probably already did fella.
You want Roberts marched out in cuffs? I'll allow it.
They got him. Looks like NC is going to be going through some things.
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