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Butters implied that Iowa would rather run the ball than attempt the deep pass.

But since you brought it up, a sack or strip sack is much more likely when dialing up a deep ball than it is on a short pass
I don't disagree. But at some freaking point if you want to play non pussy football you have to take a God damn risk. In this game towards the end I can agree it may not have been the best time... but this quote to me confirms Kirk's overall thought process. I would love to see some statistics on how many deep passes we attempt compared to other schools. We have to be at least near the very bottom in all of college football. All I'm saying is the benefits from attempting just a few more deep passes each game far outweigh any negative outcomes that may come.
 
I don't mind a head coach having veto power but my question is it seems pretty ****ing obvious this team would benefit greatly from opening up even just a tiny bit so why in the hell is he vetoing a deep shot? I do not understand what the hell he's so scared of
I’m guessing he liked Kaleb wearing them down enough to stick with that. Kirk may of had the better view of a tired Minny defense at that point.
 
Butters implied that Iowa would rather run the ball than attempt the deep pass.

But since you brought it up, a sack or strip sack is much more likely when dialing up a deep ball than it is on a short pass
A ton if not most of deep passing plays have a hot receiver running short for a dump off pass. If a D1 QB can't read that a team isn't blitzing, only rushing 3/4 and that he has time to go downfield then he shouldn't be playing.
 
Why do you guess he will move on after this season? He was a head coach for 6 years, you can't think that he never over ruled any of his coaches decisions.
If he turns the trajectory and completely turns Iowa's offense in the top 50 overall, he will get some offers. I may be wrong. Thanks for comment...cheers and GO HAWKS!
 
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I don't about your knowledge level, but listening to Lester talk, I realize as much as I watch football and think I'm on it, I know virtually nothing. For example, who recognized that a play call was designed to go to a WR and it was open for a long gain, but WR ran the route wrong. I have no idea what play it was, but I'm sure I was saying, Put Sullivan in! As far as holding off on some pass plays, the running game was unstoppable. Scratch where it itches. I remember that from a long while ago.


Yep. Fans always assume failure in the passing game is the QB's fault. Lester made it abundantly clear that most of the time this season it has not been the QB's fault.

Changing QBs won't make the WRs run the routes properly.
 
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Listening is a skill. He explained that they were calling plays by committee and that he was over ruled. Generally, a committee is more than one other person, so cut the KF crap. Just because you phrased it as a question,, don't come back saying it was just a question. Your following sentence makes it clear that it was a statement disguised as a question. Context is the key as we all learned in grade school.
Well, the good thing about this forum is you have zero control over responses. It was a legitimate question, followed by a statement. Have a great day!


 
Yep. Fans always assume failure in the passing game is the QB's fault. Lester made it abundantly clear that most of the time this season it has been not.

Changing QBs won't make the WRs run the routes properly.
I disagree. Most reasonable fans realize there is more to the story then simply blaming the QB, except of course, the hair on fire Kirk hating fans.
 
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If true, going deep was unnecessary against the Gophers, and probably more valuable to save for the Buckeyes...
Would you rather go into a game with the opponent knowing you can stretch the field so they need to defend something you proven you can do or, would you rather go into a game vs a superior opponent never having tested your deep ball and have to find out under duress?
 
Terrific question. I have no idea. This year is a bit special since it's year 1. A lot of new things being implemented and it takes time. Someone in an earlier comment mentioned that he would leave after this year, which I think is an insanely dumb thing to say. Clearly things are on the right track considering our stats. We're one good QB away from Tim being able to do whatever he wants.
Agree with everything you stated. And it sounds like it was a "committee" that voted TL down for calling the long ball plays. TL exudes confidence without ego in his pressers, appears to be extremely likeable as well. We won't fully know of his system until he gets his own recruits into the process, so probably 2yrs away from having a complete picture.
 
I disagree. Most reasonable fans realize there is more to the story then simply blaming the QB, except of course, the hair on fire Kirk hating fans.

then why all of the nonstop posts of "put Sullivan in" and "Cade sucks?"

And then, of course, there are the posts wanting to know why Kaleb Brown isn't getting the ball. Some call it criminal! LOL

It's quite comical, actually, and just shows fans are completely ignorant and that Lester knows what he's doing.
 
then why all of the nonstop posts of "put Sullivan in" and "Cade sucks?"

And then, of course, there are the posts wanting to know why Kaleb Brown isn't getting the ball. Some call it criminal! LOL

It's quite comical, actually, and just shows fans are completely ignorant and that Lester knows what he's doing.
You do recall these same things (insert different players of course) being stated over the past almost decade with BF as the OC, so a little grace to the fans that ask those questions is acceptable.

Example: Why is Deacon in and not "X"... Why are they not utilizing Chuck more (who then transfers and blows up)... why is Petras in the game... etc.
 
No reason to run deep plays later in the game.

Funny he used "voted down", instead of "overruled". Also, if it was KF, you don't throw shade on the HC like that in a press conference.

No one will believe this, but it might not have been KF.

And BTW, the OC should not have full autonomy to call plays. He's part of a team just like the players.
I doubt if he considered it throwing shade.
 
Yep. Fans always assume failure in the passing game is the QB's fault. Lester made it abundantly clear that most of the time this season it has not been the QB's fault.

Changing QBs won't make the WRs run the routes properly.
I agree - but why the hell is it so difficult to run the right routes? I can understand the timing part, but TL made it sound like the players aren't even running the correct route (i.e. slant instead of an out route). But maybe I misunderstood what he was saying.

I could see it if receivers execute the wrong route because they didn't hear the audible or something like that. Some WR coach/player help me out here...
 
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Would you rather go into a game with the opponent knowing you can stretch the field so they need to defend something you proven you can do or, would you rather go into a game vs a superior opponent never having tested your deep ball and have to find out under duress?

Against the Buckeyes on the road I think I'd prefer an early element of surprise, followed by their in game realization of the need to regroup,... If it's in the playbook we already know we can do it.
 
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I agree - but why the hell is it so difficult to run the right routes? I can understand the timing part, but TL made it sound like the players aren't even running the correct route (i.e. slant instead of an out route). But maybe I misunderstood what he was saying.

I could see it if receivers execute the wrong route because they didn't hear the audible or something like that. Some WR coach/player help me out here...
He said it in the presser, if they run the route and take 1 step to many or 1 step to little before making their cut the ball is going to be off in a couple ways because the qb is throwing to a spot and that spot is dictated by the coverage. One step to many or not enough and the wr is going to get there a tad early or late, plus since a step is 3ft or so, the ball is going to be higher or lower then it would be if the wr was in the right spot.
Good news is that means it's not a conceptual issue, because they all understand what they are doing, it's a polishing issue and a refining issue and that can be corrected rather quickly.
 
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Against the Buckeyes on the road I think I'd prefer an early element of surprise, followed by their in game realization of the need to regroup,... If it's in the playbook we already know we can do it.
My thought as well. If we can get them on their heels and keep swinging, we stand a chance.
 
Time of possession is critical. If we can muster a couple of long drives and give the defense a rest there is a chance. The last couple of years our D was on the field way to long against some good offenses.
 
I agree - but why the hell is it so difficult to run the right routes? I can understand the timing part, but TL made it sound like the players aren't even running the correct route (i.e. slant instead of an out route). But maybe I misunderstood what he was saying.

I could see it if receivers execute the wrong route because they didn't hear the audible or something like that. Some WR coach/player help me out here...

Lester seems to be putting the blame on Kaleb Brown. I do find it ironic that Budmayr, the gift from heaven, is his position coach.

Lester also said that yesterday Kaleb had a good practice. Maybe he's getting up for the team he used to play for and hopes to finally make a statement?
 
Easy big boy. Are doing blow tonight? Paranoids chasing you around?

Two simple points: Everyone here can have an opinion and free to voice it. The other, when criticizing Kirk Ferents bear in mind it is after the fact and not before we see the results of the play and knows more about the cause of a mistake
Easy yourself, old man. Are the blood pressure meds causing confusion and agitation?

If you really believe in sharing opinions, the dismissiveness and condescension seem incompatible with it.
 
As several have said Lester is a breath of fresh air with his "transparency." I am curious though if it will last throughout the whole season or if based on some of the things he has said if he gets the coaches version of the Twitter Ban for players. Time will tell I guess.
 
I remember one fight on here, a few years ago. One poster jumped an older guy's ass for liking an old-fashioned steakhouse with padded leather chairs (comfortable) and cigars. Anyway the other guy ended up saying he'd rather just buy a steak at HyVee and cook it better than an upscale steak house. So I said "you think you can cook a steak better than people who spend their entire lives perfecting the art of cooking the perfect steak for every kind of order?"

Every game, even checkers, has complexities and nuance. The coaches spend their entire lives trying to be better coaches. They see the players in practice. They understand the complexities and nuance, like which foot goes where on a passing route. Everybody has an opinion, hence the 20 million websites to voice opinions. No one should be kidding themselves into thinking they know more about the Iowa football team than the coaches.

My dad has been golfing 3 times a week for the last 50 years and the dude has a hard time breaking 100. Just because you do something a lot does not mean you are good at it. 80% of the time I eat at a steakhouse I am disappointed especially after I get the bill. I'll make my steak at home exactly how I like it.
 
My dad has been golfing 3 times a week for the last 50 years and the dude has a hard time breaking 100. Just because you do something a lot does not mean you are good at it. 80% of the time I eat at a steakhouse I am disappointed especially after I get the bill. I'll make my steak at home exactly how I like it.
What have been your disappointments? If you live in Iowa, Ruth Chris and 801 Steak and Chop House are both far better than a home cooked steak. Josephs are good, although the South Side Restaurant has terrible service. You cannot even buy the quality of the meats the upscale steakhouses cook. Smith & Wollensky is outstanding although not local in Iowa. Oh, I forgot the Big Steer in Altoona-out standing steaks and other food.

I think more people would prefer a night at Mike Jordan's steakhouse with the quality of the meat and steak chefs that you would have there to a cookout night at WestCoastHawkI's house, serving over the counter meat, cooked by a layman.
 
What have been your disappointments? If you live in Iowa, Ruth Chris and 801 Steak and Chop House are both far better than a home cooked steak. Josephs are good, although the South Side Restaurant has terrible service. You cannot even buy the quality of the meats the upscale steakhouses cook. Smith & Wollensky is outstanding although not local in Iowa. Oh, I forgot the Big Steer in Altoona-out standing steaks and other food.

I think more people would prefer a night at Mike Jordan's steakhouse with the quality of the meat and steak chefs that you would have there to a cookout night at WestCoastHawkI's house, serving over the counter meat, cooked by a layman.

Most of the time I get steak out it's not cooked to the temp I ordered and is usually under seasoned. I'm not sure if it's available where you're at, but any Korean/Japanese grocer here on the west coast will have A5 Wagyu and I can also go to specialty butchers that dry age and what not if I'm really trying to treat myself, but for $75-100 at home I can feed my wife and I a feast and enjoy some wine without breaking the bank. Steakhouses are more about the experience imo.


This is my usual go to. I'll also get prime rib once or twice a year at House of Prime Rib or Lawry's if I feel like a night out with friends.
 
Most of the time I get steak out it's not cooked to the temp I ordered and is usually under seasoned. I'm not sure if it's available where you're at, but any Korean/Japanese grocer here on the west coast will have A5 Wagyu and I can also go to specialty butchers that dry age and what not if I'm really trying to treat myself, but for $75-100 at home I can feed my wife and I a feast and enjoy some wine without breaking the bank. Steakhouses are more about the experience imo.


This is my usual go to. I'll also get prime rib once or twice a year at House of Prime Rib or Lawry's if I feel like a night out with friends.
Chuckeye steak is one of the most underrated steaks out there.
 
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I agree - but why the hell is it so difficult to run the right routes? I can understand the timing part, but TL made it sound like the players aren't even running the correct route (i.e. slant instead of an out route). But maybe I misunderstood what he was saying.

I could see it if receivers execute the wrong route because they didn't hear the audible or something like that. Some WR coach/player help me out here...
Because prior to this season they've only been asked to block and tackle the defender who intercepts the pass.
 
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What have been your disappointments? If you live in Iowa, Ruth Chris and 801 Steak and Chop House are both far better than a home cooked steak. Josephs are good, although the South Side Restaurant has terrible service. You cannot even buy the quality of the meats the upscale steakhouses cook. Smith & Wollensky is outstanding although not local in Iowa. Oh, I forgot the Big Steer in Altoona-out standing steaks and other food.

I think more people would prefer a night at Mike Jordan's steakhouse with the quality of the meat and steak chefs that you would have there to a cookout night at WestCoastHawkI's house, serving over the counter meat, cooked by a layman.
You ever heard of small town lockers we have all over Iowa? I think you are a bit full of yourself.
 
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You ever heard of small town lockers we have all over Iowa? I think you are a bit full of yourself.
Agreed. Hell I'm a little spoiled in that our family has always raised 10ish cattle each year for ourselves so we have essentially access to whatever cut we would like. And call me a tight wad but I'm not paying $60 for a steak. (Also I almost enjoy cooking more so than eating, something about fire/smoke that hits a primal center in my brain)
 
No reason to run deep plays later in the game.

Funny he used "voted down", instead of "overruled". Also, if it was KF, you don't throw shade on the HC like that in a press conference.

No one will believe this, but it might not have been KF.

And BTW, the OC should not have full autonomy to call plays. He's part of a team just like the players.
Agree 100% that there was no reason to take a deep shot. TL himself has articulated on multiple occasions that he works the first half to feel things out, then makes adjustments based on how Iowa is being played by the defense.

You know, it's awfully tough for a defense to anticipate and make adjustments against an offense when a lot have things have gone your way in terms of gameplan in the first half. See Illinois State, Troy and now Minnesota. Iowa State, with one of the best DCs in the country, was able to do that...and they also have the personnel on the backend to make it work, which is unique,

The thing is, Lester never indicated when it was he wanted to take a deep shot. By logic, it wouldn't have been in the first half. And by logic, it wouldn't have been in the third quarter when Iowa made it's initial adjustments and the running game was humming and scoring.

So was it in the 4th quarter? If that was the case, then I completely understand why he would be voted off that thought island. Recall the 3 and 10 late in Q3 when Minny ran the ball and basically waved the white flag. That's when Kirk and the other seasoned B1G coaches on the staff with plenty of history with Minnesota would say "No".

But I like that Tim was thinking that way and wanting to push it in order to see if his offense could execute it. I can't believe he would suggest it if he didn't think it was there based on the game flow. But just like when Cade told TL to temper his enthusiasm and not yell in his ear, the staff did the same thing.

They're all learning to work together with one another. I think he gave you insight to that process.

Iowa's offense and Tim's voice will get stronger over time.

Cheers!
 
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