Iowa state has never beat a rose bowl bound hawkeye team under Kirk. Or we going back a ways to pull up facts to help your narrative.
Let's start with the easy part first. Non Conference predictions
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None. Not there style. NDSU returns 8 starters on defense, don't think Iowa will be scoring in the 30's or higher. Iowa defense should make things very difficult on NDSU offense though. Iowa 24 NDSU 16
Exactly. When Iowa State wins it's not because they want it more it's because Iowa usually isn't that good that year
isu grads demand that we simply accept whatever their argument is and that argument only can be used for the narrow narrative they are using it for. Using the same logic of their argument to show how pathetic isu is becomes unacceptable and of course must be ignored.
More examples of why clowns are to be laughed at and not taken seriously.
Hey why is we must ignore that a mediocre season for Iowa say 6-8 wins would be a top 15-20 type season of all time for pathetic isu?
If Iowa played Florida in Kinnick in November they'd crush the Gators because of the extreme cold. SO my prediction will be Iowa -48 NDSt -3 due to the excessive heat that NDSt won't be used to. Not only will Iowa beat the ever living tar out of them, those northerners will be dropping like flies on hot summer day.
Who decided 6-8 wins in a season was mediocre? At pathetic isu, 6 wins makes a team one of the top 15 or 20 all time.
I would be way more worried about NDST if they still had Carson Wentz. It will be difficult to replace the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL draft, and they will struggle early on in the season (might still end up winning a National Championship at the end of the year though...)
I would agree if Wentz had played the whole season but he didn't and they still won with Stick at QB. Wentz was out a big chunk of the season.
Actually it's happened 7 times since the series was rebooted.
In only 3 of those years did Iowa finish with 8 wins or more ('81, '82, and '02). Those may be the only teams I would define as "good" or better.
In fact, Iowa has finished with a winning record in only 7 of the 14 years in which ISU has won. Iowa's aggregate record for all 14 seasons is 78-89.
In 4 of the 7 years when Iowa lost to ISU but made a bowl game, ISU also made a bowl game ('01, '02, '05' 07).
And, for what it's worth, ISU ended up with a winning record in only 5 of the 14 seasons, and their aggregate record is 78-87-2.
If Hawks don't beat Miami (Ohio) by at least 3 Td's that's not gonna give me a warm and fuzzy for the rest of the year...
Iowa State - W by 2 TD's
NDST- I get it they are division 1AA champs or runners up or watever they are...but if we don't beat them by double digit also not a good sign going into regular season...
Iowa State - W by 2 TD's
NDST- I get it they are division 1AA champs or runners up or watever they are...but if we don't beat them by double digit also not a good sign going into regular season...
Miami of Ohio- win just don't think will be able to last long with us 40-7
Iowa state- I heard they are switching to a 4-2-5 defense. That defense is designed to stop pass happy offense not and ball control one. Expected a lot of runs right into the gut of that defense. Iowa state offense does have some playmakers if that o-line can't hold then it will be bad for Isu. 28-14
Ndsu- at the end of the day they may win another title but they won't win this game. Iowas run game will be broken in and if both Daniels and wadley are healthy expect them to put some yardage on that defense. They run a offense Iowa has the most success stoping. 35-7
Iowa state- I heard they are switching to a 4-2-5 defense. That defense is designed to stop pass happy offense not and ball control one. Expected a lot of runs right into the gut of that defense. Iowa state offense does have some playmakers if that o-line can't hold then it will be bad for Isu. 28-14
Ndsu- at the end of the day they may win another title but they won't win this game. Iowas run game will be broken in and if both Daniels and wadley are healthy expect them to put some yardage on that defense. They run a offense Iowa has the most success stoping. 35-7
I understand some caution about a team like they've had the past few years, but this is obviously huge. As good as they've been, a program at that level doesn't routinely have another guy of the caliber of a top 5 NFL draft pick at QB to step into the job without some drop off. Their starter may be just fine, but highly unlikely he's going to bring the skills and playmaking ability of the guy they just lost.
You don't think it gets hot in North Dakota? Or in Texas for the FCS championship? Or in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Missouri when they play there yearly?
Stupid post.
Don't they also play indoors? So I doubt they are particularly used to playing in freezing conditions any more than other northerly schools.
Your right, but they also play outdoors in the heat in all of the states I mentioned yearly. Dude thinks the heat is going to affect them, which it will not.
#1 - The Miami (OH) game will be a laugher - assuming that the Hawks actually take them seriously.
#2 - It's fascinating to look at the context of Iowa's game '15 game against ISU. Instead of being ridiculously deep at TE like we usually are .... not only was Duzey out, but Kittle was out early in the season due to injury ... thus, our top 2 tight ends in that game were Krieger-Coble and Outsey. While we came to learn that Henry is an excellent and well-rounded TE ... we didn't know it THAT early in the season. Furthermore, in that game, BOTH LeShun Daniels and Drew Ott went down to injury. Thus, Iowa's D effectively was featuring 3 new starters on the DL, 2 (or 3) new starters at LB (depending on whether you consider Jewell a returning starter), and 1 new starter in the secondary.
Not surprisingly, given that the game was at Jack Trice, that ISU returned a starting QB, and that they were enjoying continuity on the coaching staff at that time last year .... they gave the Hawks their very best shot. In fact, if memory serves, early in the 4th quarter, Iowa was still down in the game. Fortunately, the Hawks pulled away and the rest is history.
Fast forward a year ... ISU has all new schemes, has a young QB who has a little over a half-seasons worth of starts under his belt, has suffered quite a bit of attrition personnel-wise, and will have 4 new starters on the OL.
While the Cyclones have good players at skill positions ... they're not nearly as deep at WR as they usually are, they're critically low on depth at RB past Warren, and they're critically low on depth at QB past Lanning. If Warren gets injured ... they're sunk. If Lanning gets injured ... they're sunk.
The Cyclones is slated to feature more of a 4-2-5 look on the D. They lost a lot of depth at LB. They should be solid in the secondary and on the DL ... so their D really could be tough. However, given their scheme and depth ... I'm not sure how well they'll withstand a pounding running game through 4 quarters.
The game will be at Kinnick, Iowa returns 8 starters on D, and a mobile CJ Beathard can potentially put a lot of pressure on what should be an above-average Cyclone defense. The Cyclones have their usual punchers chance this year ... no more than that.
#3 - The Hawks will know how good their adversary is entering the game. With the benefit of that foreknowledge, the concentration of the Hawks will not slip at all. NDSU will easily be a step up from either our initial 2 games ... however, given how the Hawks prepared last year ... I anticipate that they will be similarly ready in 2016.
I agree with much of what you write about ISU, although I don't think the situation is as dire at either RB or QB as you do. Ironically, RB was an embarrassment of riches last season, primarily with underclassmen. And if there isn't any OL, it doesn't really matter a whole hell of a lot, anyway.
I don't think ISU led in the fourth quarter, but the score was tied with about 3 minutes to play, although Iowa was dominating by then. And while it's true Iowa lost Ott, I don't think that hurt the Hawks anywhere near as badly as the loss of Tucker, also early in the game, hurt ISU.
Iowa lost leshun which hurt the most the guy was averaging 8 yards a carry.. And yes losing ott was huge as well.
I know that I am going to be criticized for this because I am always bashing Iowa State. I think they suck. They are in the bottom 5 of all P5 schools they are just a horrible football program. They have 8 wins in 3 years and have never had any tradition aside from acres and acres of tree-less concrete and asphalt parking lots to tailgate in. It's hard to believe a school with such a beautiful campus could have such an ugly, grotesque, wide open space as their tailgating scene. Sure they party hard...but I would drink like a fish too if I had to stand in a sea of nothingness. Oh wait I digress. Iowa has no business losing to Any of the 3 initial opponents. However Iowa State is the biggest threat because of the weird (almost sexual) obsession with Iowa. Oh BTW Matt Campbell gives me the creeps. Just something weird about him.
As I said, it depends on how you define "good." You aren't applying that label to teams that went to Alamo and Outback bowls. Of course, you are a bit spoiled by the bowl contracts the BiG has, which are terrific. In '01, for instance, ISU had a better overall record than Iowa and beat the Hawks, but Iowa played in the Alamo Bowl and ISU played in Shreveport.
I think a team that wins the Alamo Bowl would be considered to be a good team by most fans.
Yep that 67 yards of total offense isu had in the second half sure was impressive. I mean not a 67 yard drive but 67 total yards.
Bama would quake in their boots over that. Wasn't some isu clown holding up a sign that said "we want Bama".
More please.
LC said Iowa was dominating before the scoreboard reflected it. You're reaching here.
On an aside, didn't Pearson get knocked out as well?
He conceded that Iowa was dominating the 2nd half. What more is he supposed to say?
Btw, if you were on Melrose after the Iowa/Minnesota game last year, you would have heard a lot of drunken college kids chanting, "We want Bama."
I agree. And 2001 was probably the last time both Iowa and Iowa State were evenly matched (when both teams were finishing above .500). You and I seem to be in agreement that the main reasons why Iowa State has been somewhat successful against Ferentz are 1) because Iowa State isn't as bad talent-wise most years as some would like to believe and 2) because Iowa traditionally starts slow out of the gate under Ferentz. Agreed?
Probably the part you will disagree with me on is my belief that a forgotten but important part of the equation is Iowa State usually has the psychological advantage of always being the underdog, whether Iowa is going to be good or not. In short, I think Iowa State plays loose and energized because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Iowa, conversely, has the pressure of being expected to win, which I think has often resulted in Iowa playing tight and "not to lose."
Nah, Ferentz is a gentleman and doesn't like to run the score up on opponents. The final score will be Iowa 55 Iowa State 17. The 3rd string defense will be in at the start of the 4th quarter, allowing Iowa State to add a couple academic touchdowns.
Iowa 21
Miami 20
After 7 field goals and holding Miami of OH to 57 total yards through the first 55 minutes, MiOH speeds up their offense and recovers 2 onside kicks... Hawks stuff a two-point conversion with zeros on the clock to avoid dropping the home opener.
Iowa 14
ISU 15
Hawks open the game with a safety and with a two-point lead remain complacent trading field goals. ISU knocks through a FG as time expires.
This will be a tough loss, as some would argue that 4 FGs + a safety is more valuable than 5 field goals. Everyone should look forward to intelligent discourse between Iowa fans and ISU fans about this topic.
"Super Bowl" will be mentioned before and after the game.
Iowa 42
NDSU 13
Hawks fake 2 punts and FG attempt. Crowd cheers.
Sets up a run to 9 and 3. Will not be ranked until the Hawks qualify for the B1G championship, as the national media will cite the loss to ISU and the near loss to Miami of OH as proof of Iowa's ineptitude.
Miami 20
After 7 field goals and holding Miami of OH to 57 total yards through the first 55 minutes, MiOH speeds up their offense and recovers 2 onside kicks... Hawks stuff a two-point conversion with zeros on the clock to avoid dropping the home opener.
Iowa 14
ISU 15
Hawks open the game with a safety and with a two-point lead remain complacent trading field goals. ISU knocks through a FG as time expires.
This will be a tough loss, as some would argue that 4 FGs + a safety is more valuable than 5 field goals. Everyone should look forward to intelligent discourse between Iowa fans and ISU fans about this topic.
"Super Bowl" will be mentioned before and after the game.
Iowa 42
NDSU 13
Hawks fake 2 punts and FG attempt. Crowd cheers.
Sets up a run to 9 and 3. Will not be ranked until the Hawks qualify for the B1G championship, as the national media will cite the loss to ISU and the near loss to Miami of OH as proof of Iowa's ineptitude.
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Sure and Iowa unlike isu was one play away from getting Bama in the CFP.
Yeah, you're right, because clearly risk taking has been Ferentz's MO over the years. And what the hell would that have to do with the players's psyches going into a game anyway?
Wow, you're normally not this stupid.
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