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Liberal logic

It's showing us that the people most concerned about gun control don't know anything about guns. But those who don't know anything about guns wouldn't understand that.

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Stop right there. I don't know anybody who blames gun owners. We blame the lax oversight that allows guns in the hands of criminals and the mentally ill, as well as the availability of assault rifles that serve no legitimate sporting or defense purpose, but allow people of ill will to kill en mass.

Blame gun owners? No. "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." That not a liberal motto.

You should really do some research on the term assault rifle. The general public can't legally purchase a true assault rifle. You need special federal permits to purchase and own selective fire weapons. The AR-15 that can be purchased at your local gun dealer isn't an assault rifle, it's a standard .223 sporting rifle. You call it an assault rifle because of the way it looks and not the way it operates.
 
Liberals do not care about the lives of unborn children. And it is the primary reason why I won't identify with their group.
Liberals argue that we should be investing aggressively to protect the world from the ravages climate change. Cons dismiss that concern and want to ramp up fossil fuel use.

Please explain how liberals are the ones who don't care about the lives of unborn children.

You (I assume) are talking about abortion but in practically every other sense, it's liberals who care and cons care less or not at all.
 
OK, if you think that's a good point, you must also think the reverse is a good point, right? You blame Islam while wanting to hold gun owners blameless. That seems like a problem for you. A problem that gets compounded when you realise libs don't blame gun owners, but rather the easy availability of guns. It's the product, not the people gun control advocates want to restrict. A point I'm surprised you even missed as pro gun people love to shout "guns don't kill people, people kill people" which should clue you into the gun focus over the gun owner focus of the debate.

So where was that good point again?
There it is right there. Nobody is "blaming" islam, but that's the mantra on the left against the right.
 
And you know what else? Entire swaths of people are prohibited from owning guns because they committed a crime, or they were Baker Acted, or they were convicted abusers of alcohol or drugs.

Is there something similar with immigrants?
This liberal regularly argues that some of the reasons for barring certain people from buying a gun are bad ideas and often unconstitutional. There's a lot of conversation lately to expand those reasons to add people who have ever seen a shrink or had any "mental health" issues. More bad ideas.

We need better regulation. That may or may not mean more regulation.

I will say this, though, the strategy of arresting young black males at a high rate so they can't legally get guns is an interesting strategy.
 
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Liberals argue that we should be investing aggressively to protect the world from the ravages climate change. Cons dismiss that concern and want to ramp up fossil fuel use.

Please explain how liberals are the ones who don't care about the lives of unborn children.

You (I assume) are talking about abortion but in practically every other sense, it's liberals who care and cons care less or not at all.

I can see your point but you don't get more uncaring then "It's entirely ok for another person to kill you for any reason they see fit."
 
So far the extra scrutiny of people coming here has worked quite well.

Can we say the same about extra scrutiny of gun transactions?
I'm not sure that I agree. Wasn't this last shooting done by a lady who supposedly got extra scrutiny that failed to turn up some rather obvious lies? Then there was the Boston bomber guys who also should have tripped some triggers. I'm not sure screening people for terror or guns is a panacea. It might be the best option available, but it has some rather glaring limits.
 
So . . . freedom and rights only matter if they have been specifically mentioned in the constitution?

Typical authoritarian thinking.
Do you think there is a right of foreigners to move to this contry? The UN declaration of rights might agree, but I doubt many others would.
 
We can not blame all Muslims for the acts of a demented few----they can blame millions and millions of law abiding gun owners for the acts of a demented few. If they really gave a crap about lives- how about the 57 million babies killed since 1973.

I am not aware of this. Are you meaning fetus's and just using the term "babies" generically to make you opposition more dramatic? Just keep picking that scab Walleye.
 
He already told you we had a racism problem. Now you're mad he didn't repeat himself? Ain't nobody got time for that.
I'm wondering what would happen if you attacked a cop and tried to steal his gun? Would we then have white on white crime?
 
I am not aware of this. Are you meaning fetus's and just using the term "babies" generically to make you opposition more dramatic? Just keep picking that scab Walleye.
Fetus is a word, a baby is a baby. You guys can use stats all you want, so you can continue to support abortion which was brought forth via a racist white woman who wished to trim down the black population.
 
Legally.....when it is born..alive.
One cannot take a deduction for a child if it has been stillborn and full term....

So, you can carve them up until birth, because they haven't seen the light of day and they are not Babies?
 
Those are your words..and 22 you will never find solace in this issue looking at it that way..I don't think. It is NOT your business what other folks do. It just isn't.

We make what people do our business more and more everyday.

The semantics of fetus vs. baby is just a trick to try and dehumanize the process to make it easier to support.
 
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