Seems a little overboard. First off, not every kid is or can be a "leader." Second, this is potentially a great opportunity for a teaching moment about life. Not just for Logan but everyone on the team. I don't know the details of this case but to just blindly claim he should not be given another chance for this offense seems shortsighted.
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Seems a little overboard. First off, not every kid is or can be a "leader." Second, this is potentially a great opportunity for a teaching moment about life. Not just for Logan but everyone on the team. I don't know the details of this case but to just blindly claim he should not be given another chance for this offense seems shortsighted.
Even though Logan was involved in the situation, I think it says a lot about his character that he stayed at Iowa, when other schools came knocking on his door. I hope Brands makes it damn hard for Logan to make it back on the team, but I hope Logan makes it back.
I don't want a kid on my team who "bangs ugly chicks." I want my guys with nines and dimes exclusively.
Someone's gotta jump on the grenades.
Some of you seem to forget women are wrestling fans who read this forum. I assume you don't have 'ugly chicks' for wives or daughters. Objectification such as this is demeaning to all women.
Leave the PC Bullshit to the Better Homes and Gardens Forum or turn on a TV. Thanks.
Hahahaha Jesus, you can't say ugly chicks anymore? You probably are married to one, thank you for your sacrifice sir!
Sorry about this personal attack but you really are dense, aren't you? I'll spell it out: I am a woman, and I found your comment, and ensuing comments, personally demeaning. Insulting half the population is not a very effective way of increasing support for wrestling.
Lady, if you are offended, then I am sure someone on here is sorry. If you are that offended you should probably stay off the internet. They were having a little fun, get over it. Hell, you just called him dense, and I am sure he found that comment demeaning. Have a great day.
This is laughable and what is wrong with America.
She's expressing her opinion; making a point. That's her right. Try to be more inclusive when making crude comments. Personally, I prefer to offend everyone, regardless of sex, race, religion, national origin, gender, . . .
Fortunata has been around her for a long time. She's a good fan.
What we have learned is Logan Ryan needs to hook up with fortunata in order to gain Hawkeye reports blessing to rejoin the team.
When I was young, we talked about banging ugly chicks too. In fact, when did wrestlers become so discerning? But I digress.
Maybe they don't know that even the best looking of women have their ugly days...even their future VS model wives, hehe. This is also a message board on the Internet, so political correctness is not a high priority. So all of you who claim to hit dime pieces, pic or it didn't happen.
sorry fortunata it's like a locker room in here.it's not the women reading that I worry about, it is the younger people who might be reading.i'm sure some of us try to be good role models
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Pretty sure kids talk about far worse than what you read here when outside of earshot of adults. Of course, maybe I was the bad kid and the other kids were talking about meadows, cup cake parties and Nickledoeon when I wasn't around.
As for role models, I have a hard time believing kids pattern their communications off what they read on HR. This isn't the boys and girls club.
Wow my feelings really are hurt. Some women are hot, some are not. It's how life is. We've all made a mistake or two and banged one that we shouldn't have. We've gotten over it and so should you
Maybe people should have thicker skin and not get so offended when someone says something on the Internet, which isn't even directed at them.
If the day comes when big government and the PC police start monitoring the Hawkeye Wrestling board we are in trouble.
99% of the time I like it when mods don't get on this wrestling forum. But this thread should just be deleted.
Ihawk has his OPINION and he's holding strong to that. GREAT, that's why America is the best country in the world. You can agree or disagree. But if you disagree, no matter how strongly, MOVE ON. Calling people names, whether it's a fellow Hawkeye or one of those annoying MN fans, doesn't accomplish anything. Any educated adult should be over the name calling stage. Give the guy a break and grow up.
As for Logan Ryan, I know what I've done in the past and I know what type of a husband, father, and employee I am now. As long as the University and Coaches are in the know, they can decide his future. I will accept the outcome. If he becomes a Hawkeye, I wish him all the best and if I had to bet I'd say we will probably never hear his name again (at least off the mat).
Ihawk has his OPINION and he's holding strong to that. GREAT, that's why America is the best country in the world. You can agree or disagree. But if you disagree, no matter how strongly, MOVE ON. Calling people names, whether it's a fellow Hawkeye or one of those annoying MN fans, doesn't accomplish anything. Any educated adult should be over the name calling stage. Give the guy a break and grow up.
As for Logan Ryan, I know what I've done in the past and I know what type of a husband, father, and employee I am now. As long as the University and Coaches are in the know, they can decide his future. I will accept the outcome. If he becomes a Hawkeye, I wish him all the best and if I had to bet I'd say we will probably never hear his name again (at least off the mat).
Hawkster do you know Logan Ryan? Betting on the future of someone you don't know is risky
WildTurk -- That's a two way street, sometimes betting on someone you know can be pretty risky as well.
You're back in SoCal. The squad needs a fall guy. Per Chris Carter it's all good.
It's a certainty.
Logan Ryan = Mike Kelly part 2. But who could have seen this coming lol.
Neither should have ever been a starter at Iowa other than by default. Both highly overated coming out of high school. neither have a sliver of offense, even in high school really. At least Mike had a bit of heart. Logan should have been called for stalling in the 3rd even while he was down.
I dont know about some of you but i get tired of all the folks who are to close to these kids to see them for the wrestlers they really are. This thread is full of those types severly overestimating who Logan Ryan is as a wrestler. Some of you consider them insiders which is hilarious. Please let Turk get healthy or Brody get down. And yes pull Turks shirt unless Brodu is for sure getting down. Turks shirt doesnt matter at all with Happel coming in. And even at that if they dont pan out we should be able to over recruit on them in 2 years if they are. This is Iowa, always should have a legit stud 141. From Jeva to this now is kind of reflective of the bad recruiting in the past that is still biting us. So yes, Turks shirt IMO doesnt mean crap right now. And if Turk is the real deal then he can use his shirt later on and allow Happel to be 141 while one of them works on a possible 149 jump in size.
Fire away with the name calling again. Im not negative, I just call it like it is. Its actually pretty refreshing. Some of you should take the glasses off and stop babying this staff and some of the wrestlers. Unless you like 3rd place at nationals. Then in Brands we trust. Carry on....
Neither should have ever been a starter at Iowa other than by default. Both highly overated coming out of high school. neither have a sliver of offense, even in high school really. At least Mike had a bit of heart. Logan should have been called for stalling in the 3rd even while he was down.
I dont know about some of you but i get tired of all the folks who are to close to these kids to see them for the wrestlers they really are. This thread is full of those types severly overestimating who Logan Ryan is as a wrestler. Some of you consider them insiders which is hilarious. Please let Turk get healthy or Brody get down. And yes pull Turks shirt unless Brodu is for sure getting down. Turks shirt doesnt matter at all with Happel coming in. And even at that if they dont pan out we should be able to over recruit on them in 2 years if they are. This is Iowa, always should have a legit stud 141. From Jeva to this now is kind of reflective of the bad recruiting in the past that is still biting us. So yes, Turks shirt IMO doesnt mean crap right now. And if Turk is the real deal then he can use his shirt later on and allow Happel to be 141 while one of them works on a possible 149 jump in size.
Fire away with the name calling again. Im not negative, I just call it like it is. Its actually pretty refreshing. Some of you should take the glasses off and stop babying this staff and some of the wrestlers. Unless you like 3rd place at nationals. Then in Brands we trust. Carry on....
I love how people come in here, state their opinion, and act like its the most unique f*cking thought ever while building a narrative that everybody else are mindless robots scared to critique or complain about Iowa wrestling. You sir, are a special cupcake..glad you can wow us with your originality.
I saw one post saying he had AA potential, not sure how that makes this thread "full of those types severly (sic) overestimating who Logan Ryan is as a wrestler."
Most everyone simply stated that if he put in the work and was allowed back on the team by the coaches and administration then good for him. Can I ask you which "insiders" were claiming he'd be better on the mat than anyone else?
Your buddy Gobblin for one. Saying how valuable Ryan is to the team and how much that Brands talked him up in a team party after nationals last year.
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So your opinion is a person can hold no value to the team or be talked about by a coach, unless he is a NC contender?
I've spoke to Gobblin and never once has he said to me he could see Logan on top of the podium, just that he is a good kid, works hard, and coaches like him. I'm sure basd on the personal relationship he'd love to see him accomplish that but I haven't seen Gobblin, or many others, place unrealistic expectations on him
The best wrestler will earn the spot. As far as comparing Mike Kelly and Logan Ryan, I think you are comparing a redshirt senior (Mike Kelly) against a redshirt freshmen (Logan Ryan), one has 4 more years of experience over the other...alot can change. Tell me something I dont already know...the hawks have question marks at 141, 157 and 165...those question marks showed today against Maryland, I already knew that, was hoping they would get a win, but they didnt...thankfully the rest of the team got bonus points and looked good.
Overrated? Was he even rated? I don't recall Logan Ryan being a highly rated recruit. Someone help me out here since I don't always have the best memory for these things.
Gross left school, Turk is injured and Grothus is also injured, coming off surgery. That's how you get to where we are today. They aren't going to make a call on Turk until they know about Brody.
