For the record I hate it when Democrats say bleach. You got it right. Just use disinfectant media, it’s just as stupid.
Make or break Democratic meeting today for Joe
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Bull. Shit. Trump told you how dumb you are and that you will never leave him. If Biden told me he didn’t care about me, like Bone Spurs, he wouldn’t have my vote.
It’s really bad. He may be able to redeem himself with the press conference on Thursday. No teleprompters.
Christ are you five? When you actually put capable people in place things will be fine. Trump has paraded a train of fools into the White House with many being criminals.
Logic should tell you where the concern should lie.
I am a Republican who will not vote for Trump. In 2016, I caucused for John Kasich. In 2020, because I didn't have an option to caucus for an alternative to Trump (the Iowa Republicans did not hold a vote at the caucus, or I would have voted for William Weld because he was the only alternative within the party at that point in time), I switched my registration and caucused for Amy Klobuchar. This year, I caucused for Haley because I thought it was important to have a president with a rational foreign policy perspective.
The whole "now what about Trump" argument that is playing out on this message board is the wrong argument. The real question is who the Democrats could put forward who will capture the votes of persuadable Republicans and independents. A barely functioning President, whose only virtues are that he is still alive and not named Donald Trump, doesn't cut it. It isn't democracy when the actual decisions and policies are being made by his unelected handlers. If Biden isn't with it enough to form meaningful opinions and participate in the process , it makes a mockery of democracy to elect him.
The thing that is most maddening in this whole conversation is that the opportunity is right here, right now. If Trump is an existential threat to democracy, replace an incoherent Biden and the figurehead of Harris with a moderate ticket. It is not a sound strategy to stick with Biden and hope that he can still read off a teleprompter in November.
The whole "now what about Trump" argument that is playing out on this message board is the wrong argument. The real question is who the Democrats could put forward who will capture the votes of persuadable Republicans and independents. A barely functioning President, whose only virtues are that he is still alive and not named Donald Trump, doesn't cut it. It isn't democracy when the actual decisions and policies are being made by his unelected handlers. If Biden isn't with it enough to form meaningful opinions and participate in the process , it makes a mockery of democracy to elect him.
The thing that is most maddening in this whole conversation is that the opportunity is right here, right now. If Trump is an existential threat to democracy, replace an incoherent Biden and the figurehead of Harris with a moderate ticket. It is not a sound strategy to stick with Biden and hope that he can still read off a teleprompter in November.
How has Kamala done as the border czar? How about mayor Pete in his role? Oh, he took months off during a supply chain crisis and forgot to tell anyone? Oops.. so much for putting competent leadership in place.
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Even if they can win with Biden, we are past this being an election strategy.
He is not fit for 4 more years.
I genuinely do not care enough to search these threads for examples. 😝Not me. So two hard examples/quotes then please
I respectfully disagree with many of my fellow team USA peeps here. That's what the VP is for if needed just like when FDR died not even a year into his last term. We cannot try and swap out a candidate at this stage it's utter lunacy and will ensure chaos reigns. If this was 1 year ago I'd be slightly on team replace before the primary. Biden is leading and still an effective President and will win if we stay together.
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The man goes to bed at 8 and needs naps beyond that to function. That is not acceptable in that job.
His administration has performed quite well and that's what truly matters. We are a functional party so these discussions are good but time to rally to wipe the MAGA terrorists off the electoral map.
I think one of the overlooked risks in keeping Biden around is aggressive behavior by other leaders on the world stage because they see America as being led by an incapable, weak, man. Even if his supporting cast is capable... we're more likely to be tested.
Maybe China is more likely to pull something, who knows.
Maybe China is more likely to pull something, who knows.
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But that’s not democracy. I didn’t vote for Jill Biden to be making decisions.
To be fair, I know a lot of non geezers who go to bed around 8-9.
That's not happening and Democracy occurred via the primary. Rally around the platform everything is on the line. Dropping out now is chaos plus massive risks of ballots via lawsuits and the GOP will sue and do we trust the compromised scotus? Please.
If I were the dems... I would push for someone that exudes competence, strength, and vigor. (and, obviously, isn't ****ing 80)
Possibly someone that hasn't had much attention on the national stage yet. A fresh face might be just what the doctor ordered.
You don't want old (obviously) or soft right now.
Possibly someone that hasn't had much attention on the national stage yet. A fresh face might be just what the doctor ordered.
You don't want old (obviously) or soft right now.
He had a 36% approval rating before he did the debate, he’s not going to win
And they get up at 0400….not 1000
Dude some of your staunchest allies are saying you are wrong and you keep doubling down.
on the flip side... Trump is more volatile, but probably easier to manipulate.
Joe Manchin would win if he was the nominee. Democrats would hold their nose and vote for him and he would get swing votes and republican non-trumper votes that actually matter. He can't win as an independent but I believe he would be the next President if the Dems would nominate him. I realize it won't happen, but it's the path to victory.
US would not do anything about it, not going to start a war over Taiwan and China has little to gain in the world view by doing so
That assumes China is thinking rationally, and/or cares about the world's opinion.
If they ever think they can take Taiwan, and the price to do so isn't overly onerous, they might well just pull the trigger.
The WHITE HOUSE literally said Joe is worthless outside the hours of 10am-4pm
I understand his statement. But there are plenty of examples of people making bold statements, only to have to walk them back later when they couldn't back up their words. If Democrat leadership in Congress was uniform in calling for Biden to step down, and if the donors stop donating money, he has no choice.
It isn't hard to imagine the circumstances that would lead to Biden having to walk back his comments and withdraw from this contest. For example, let's say that the Thursday "big boy" press conference is a debacle. Let's say that he tries to prove that he can talk without a teleprompter, as Sanders suggested, and he scrambles his words and makes no sense. Or let's say that he is incoherent at Nato because it is past his bedtime, and a foreign leader decides to give an honest assessment. Every time that he is in front of a microphone, it is now a referendum on whether he meets the low bar of lucidity.
The voters have already spoken via the primaries, Delegates have been pledged to Biden. Lawsuits would be filed if those Delegates do not support Joe. Furthermore, it is less than 5 months until the election there is no window of opportunity to get anyone other than Joe into the race. Joe already has enough cash on hand to finish the campaign without a single additional dollar being donated.
Like it or not Joe is going to be on the ballot in November as the Dems candidate.
Rich. Trump didn’t read anything and just watched tv. He was the laziest president of all time.
These facts are in many books written by trump appointees.
There are so many great companies out there with worthless, incompetent CEOs who have Parkinson’s…so no concerns from Chis with the govt operating this way.
You don’t have a need for facts when it is something critical about Trump so why start this now. What is a woman?
