Matt Campbell to interview for Chicago Bears HC
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Wrong he sees reality. The BIG 12 is no longer a Major conference. He knows it, along with the rest of the world outside of the smattering of mid major programs that occupy that conference.
Except we already know one of those things is a proven loser in the NFL.
Campbell could be really good? He wouldn’t be my choice, but I’d take him over anyone that has already failed multiple times.
Hiring McCarthy would be like saying, you know let’s pass on the DII Coach that has done a really nice job, and let’s hire Todd Lickliter. He’s got experience at this level.
McCarthy would coach circles around Campbell. Guy has a Super Bowl title. I’m not a MM fan but come on.
I disagree.
Take a look at ISU’s history. I know it’s common knowledge, but I think people forget what Campbell has done.
McCarthy is used up, man. Dude had a Super Bowl team several times in Green Bay, and underachieved. He saved me from having to watch the Packers in the Super Bowl several times, so I’m thankful for that. Dude had peak Aaron Rodgers, and managed to have a losing record multiple times. How is that possible?
Anyway, I wouldn’t want either won of them, but if McCarthy is door #1, I’d take my chances with door #2.
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The publicity about pro teams wanting Campbell only helps his recruiting when he says he’s staying at Iowa State. Players love that he’s good enough to be wanted to coach in the NFL. It’s good publicity. He’s not going anywhere and everyone knows it. His wife and kids love Ames and just last week he said family comes first in his decisions.
Vrabel has a winning record, NFL coach of the year award, and has beat Belichick & Harbaugh in the playoffs on the road as an underdog.
He did all that with Tannehill and Mariota as his Qbs. I'm not saying he's Tom Landry but he would absolutely be a Top 10 coach in the league the second he is hired again.
Campbell’s decision to interview signifies not only that NFL teams are interested in him, but also that he is interested in them. If I were a recruit and learned that the head coach pursuing my commitment was interviewing for other positions, I would take the said school off my list. Campbell likely sees the looming money gap between the Power 2 and the lesser conferences such as the big 12. We are on the cusp of revenue sharing and the P2 schools are swimming in cash.
Many people aspire to achieve the highest level of their chosen career. For a football coach, that's quite obviously the NFL. Will Campbell make a good NFL leader? Only way to find out is to do it.
Plus, he's done more than enough at ISU to be welcomed back to the college ranks should the pro gig not pan out.......and let's face it, this is the Bears we're talkin' 'bout after all, so that outcome is certainly on the plus side of probability.
Plus, he's done more than enough at ISU to be welcomed back to the college ranks should the pro gig not pan out.......and let's face it, this is the Bears we're talkin' 'bout after all, so that outcome is certainly on the plus side of probability.
Maybe Campbell's 500IQ long-play is using the Bears job to either succeed in the NFL or at least settle the question, then turn around and get a decent Power 2 job when he comes back.
Why would any college coach not take an interview when an NFL team calls?
Pretty much exactly what Ol' Doodle was thinking.
He's done a good job at ISU.
He wants to test himself at the highest level of the sport.
He parlays ISU success into the the Bears gig.
Maybe it goes awesome and he stays in the League for a long time.
Maybe it goes about as well as Saban with the Dolphins, which prompts him to turn his eye back to the college ranks, but this time with an "NFL pedigree" in hand.
He parlays that into a HC job in the SEC or Big Ten.
It's not necessarily a particularly probable path/outcome...but it's certainly within the realm of possibility.
Campbell is very close to the age where Ferentz was when he took the Iowa job. It really is time for him to consider his long-term plans. Does he really view himself as an Iowa State lifer? I doubt it. He has to know he can never reach the highest levels of success at Iowa State - too many disadvantages.
IMO he does want to coach at a high-level Big Ten or SEC school. You may be right, the NFL opportunity does give him the pedigree to coach college athletes at the highest levels. So, even if he fails miserably, it does make sense.
Campbell could have an SEC or Big 10 coaching gig tomorrow if he wanted it. It’s obvious that just a few teams from each conference will be in the playoffs. He has a better chance of achieving in the Big 12. The anointed Big 10 teams will be in the playoffs every year. same for SEC.
He might be able to make the playoffs some year with ISU, but he’ll never be able to actually compete with the top teams. If he wants a national championship he has to take a better job.
And by the way, what Big Ten or SEC job could he have got this year?
Just about any one that opens up.
Kind of like KF flirting w/ the NFL and Michigan several years ago. Good for getting a pay bump
Not sure why... lol. Their strategy the last few decades doesn't appear to work very well. Campbell is obviously a good coach.
Can he screw either one up any worse than they perpetually are?
There are only about 8 jobs that can actually compete with the top teams and they don’t open much.
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McCarthy has a career .608 winning percentage and a Super Bowl Win. Campbell hasn’t done squat.
Really? Considering where Campbell is, I’d say he’s done pretty darn well
Saban tanked in the NFL at Miami and ended up doing rather well. Campbell would have a job in CFB if he didn't succeed in the NFL IMO. Probably a better gig than ISU. If he's gonna make the move now is the time. Strike while the iron is hot...
Oh. OK. He's in a league that doesn't have a single team that would be considered a Blue Blood. There isn't a team in the league that has consistently been above average for an extended period of time. There are a few teams that have jumped up for a couple of years and done well but all have eventually fallen back to average or below. Heck the best team in the league is 11 and 2 this year and 7 and 2 in the league. Heck the conference had a losing record in the bowl season. So, considering where he is, has he really done well?
And McCarthy built some very good teams at Dallas only to see them choke late in the year. So he can build a team
Per some reporters, the Bears are taking their time and interviewing a lot of coaches. Some people think they are waiting for an NFL assistant that is still on an active playoff team and for that team to lose so they can interview them.
Is it Spagnola at the Chiefs who is just outstanding but has never been a head coach?
Is it Spagnola at the Chiefs who is just outstanding but has never been a head coach?
Why is it tough for hawk fans to recognize Campbell as a good coach. That program will be a dumpster fire again after he leaves. What he is achieving with the level of recruits they pull is pretty impressive. If he was named as Kirk's replacement tomorrow I would be totally on board.
This part is key.
He can take the chance on the NFL right now and if it doesn't work, no problem at all. He would still have a pretty high pick of the school he would want to coach when and if he wanted. People forget that Sabin spent a few terrible years at the Dolphins before rewriting history at Alabama.
The difference, though, is that Saban won a Natty at LSU before taking the Dolphins job. Yes, Campbell has taken ISU to heights never before seen, but it's really not an apples to apples comparison saying Campbell could come back to college the same as Saban and have his pick of jobs.
Agree but It will probably be pretty close. Maybe not tier 1 blood blood level but right under it.
Rhule never won a natty with Baylor and he was welcomed back after that shit show with Carolina.
He’s a good coach and program builder. No denying that but I think he’d be foolish to leave ISU. Kirk’s got over $100M in the bank and MC could easily achieve that with ISU with very little pressure from the donors. It’s as about as cush as you can have it that profession.
He’s clearly not obsessed with winning at the highest level based on his prior remarks.
He’s clearly not obsessed with winning at the highest level based on his prior remarks.
What has he really accomplished? he got an asterisk season with COVID and he slopped out some close wins with a very easy schedule this year. He's been Good for the clowns but hasn't done anything impressive enough to warrant consideration for any premier job
You eluded to this, but winning a natty at LSU has happened several more times than ISU has won 9 games in the regular season. Saban wasn’t ever winning a natty at MSU if he’d stayed there either. You’re right, he might not have his pick, but he’d have his pick of jobs better than the ISU job by nearly any metric.
The guy is very good coach. Pretty similar to Ferentz. They will wax and wane to some degree, because they are not a blue blood, and it’s nearly impossible to win year in and year out if you’re not.
He thought he was on the precipice of a historic season in 2021, and didn’t leave after the 2020 season. He should have. Obviously life does not suck for him, but these guys are wired differently.
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