Michigan

[RocknRollface]

So we got no shot is what you're saying. I don't think we'll win either, but far stranger things have happened.

I don't like Iowas chances. I think UM and Baylor are the two teams Iowa probably has the least chance of beating because their defensive strengths direcrtly target Iowas weaknesses and they have excellent offense too.

If Iowa can find ways to get threes off of offensive rebounds and transition that is the way I could see them winning. In that scenario I think Keegan needs to be a huge factor on the boards.

That or Luka has another 40 pt performance.

 

[TJFant]

Because Michigan will make life hell on Iowas guards.

They're the best on ball defensive team I've seen this year.

Be prepared for a ton of back to the basket going nowhere dribbling 40 feet from the hoop.

Looks like you have done your homework! Still hoping for an A+ game from the boys.

 

[TJFant]

I also think the play of the PGs will play a very big part in the outcome. Smith has been better than advertised, but he is their weakest link and I am still not sold on him.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Yes, that is the problem Iowa will have with most really good teams. They are going to have to get creative with their sets and Joe T is going to eventually have to play some meaningful minutes.

I am all for Joe T getting more minutes from JBo. Let CJFred and JW get more 3 looks, and let Murray and Nunge get some from CMac.

I actually Joe T on the floor instead of CMac could get more open looks for JBo.

 

[TKingpin]

I will never forget the game (was it just last year) vs Michigan where it was a tight game and in the 2nd half the Wolverines kept getting offensive rebound after offensive rebound to take control. Livers was the main culprit in that.

I am really worried about keeping them off of the glass.

We need great games from the perimeter, Luka has to win his matchup and Murray and Nunge need to contribute in a big way.

 

[silasstarr]

Michigan's D is good but not amazing enough to stop Iowa. No one is. I think Iowa wins this one by 8.

 

[AuroraHawk]

Because Michigan will make life hell on Iowas guards.

They're the best on ball defensive team I've seen this year.

Be prepared for a ton of back to the basket going nowhere dribbling 40 feet from the hoop.

Your posts regarding the match-ups are, IMO, spot on. I think that, outside of the Garza/Dickenson match-up, every single player-to-player match-up favors Michigan. I wouldn't be surprised to see Garza put up 40+ points and Iowa still lose by double digits.

I sure hope that I'm wrong.

* Edited to remove the result of my brain cramp.

 

[Jaycg15]

From an Illini fan, good luck tonight.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Is that the real Benny Hill? lol

 

[kceasthawk]

Your posts regarding the match-ups are, IMO, spot on. I think that, outside of the Garza/Henderson match-up, every single player-to-player match-up favors Michigan. I wouldn't be surprised to see Garza put up 40+ points and Iowa still lose by double digits.

I sure hope that I'm wrong.

I'm assuming that Henderson in your matchup with Garza is Hunter Dickenson the freshman center who was Luka's understudy for Team Takeaway in the DC area when they were kids on the same AAU program???

 

[AuroraHawk]

I'm assuming that Henderson in your matchup with Garza is Hunter Dickenson the freshman center who was Luka's understudy for Team Takeaway in the DC area when they were kids on the same AAU program???

Indeed. Mea culpa. I happen to be working on a case today where a key person has the last name Henderson. Apparently, I had a brain cramp. HA!

 

[kceasthawk]

I don't like Iowas chances. I think UM and Baylor are the two teams Iowa probably has the least chance of beating because their defensive strengths direcrtly target Iowas weaknesses and they have excellent offense too.

If Iowa can find ways to get threes off of offensive rebounds and transition that is the way I could see them winning. In that scenario I think Keegan needs to be a huge factor on the boards.

That or Luka has another 40 pt performance.

Unfortunately I don't think that a huge game from Luka is the way for Iowa to come out with a win, just as last years Chrysler Arena record for a visiting player of 44 points did not result in an Iowa victory. I think Luka at about 25 and 12, with heavy doses of three's from at least two of Joe W. Jbo, and CJF is Iowa's chance to pull one out as well as strong play from Nunge , Keegan and the bench......

 

[kceasthawk]

Indeed. Mea culpa. I happen to be working on a case today where a key person has the last name Henderson. Apparently, I had a brain cramp. HA!

I knew who you meant Aurora, just having some fun......

 

[L8115]

Outside of Wagner over Connor, every other position player for Iowa has a higher efficiency rating their Michigan opponent.
Luka > Dickinson


Wagner > Connor. This is the biggest difference between the teams.


For conference play:
Smith vs. Jbo - They play the same amount of minutes. Jbo averages more points, better A/TO, more rebounds, better 2 pt FG%, and better FT%. The only thing Smith currently has better is 3 pt FG%. I know you hate Jbo, so I'm sure I know who you prefer.

Joe vs Livers - Livers plays 2 more MPG, and taking the same amount of shots. Joe averages more point and rebounds, better FG% and 3 point FG%, while worse 2 pt FG% and worse A/TO. These guys are a wash.

Brooks vs CJ = Brooks plays more, and therefore barely average more points. Same A/TO, CJ shoots better from the floor everywhere. Again wash IMO.

Individual matchups I'd say:

Garza > Dicksinson
McCaffrey < Wagner
Wieskamp < Livers
Fredrick > Brooks
Bohannon > Smith

But as a collective unit who plays cohesive defense together, without a doubt Michigan > Iowa.
Also Chaundee Brown is better than anyone on Iowa's bench.

 

[blockm2]

Individual matchups I'd say:

Garza > Dicksinson
McCaffrey < Wagner
Wieskamp < Livers
Fredrick > Brooks
Bohannon > Smith

But as a collective unit who plays cohesive defense together, without a doubt Michigan > Iowa.
Also Chaundee Brown is better than anyone on Iowa's bench.

I find it isn't worth getting overly specific with individual matchups when it comes to a single game in college hoops. I mean literally anything can happen and it shouldn't impact your overall feelings of either team. If Michigan wins by 20 it doesn't mean Iowa is a far worse team. If Iowa wins by 20 it doesn't mean Iowa is much better than you already thought. It's a game. If either team brings their A game they can easily win by double digits. If both teams bring their A game it will be one of the best games of the season in the sport (KenPom's thrill score of 87.3 narrowly edges the Michigan/OSU game last weekend as the highest single game score of the season I believe - in other words what figures to be the best game of the year to watch when you combine quality of teams, projected closeness of score, and how high scoring it will be).

 

[RocknRollface]

Unfortunately I don't think that a huge game from Luka is the way for Iowa to come out with a win, just as last years Chrysler Arena record for a visiting player of 44 points did not result in an Iowa victory. I think Luka at about 25 and 12, with heavy doses of three's from at least two of Joe W. Jbo, and CJF is Iowa's chance to pull one out as well as strong play from Nunge , Keegan and the bench......

Obviously it would depend on how Luka got those points.

Luka is usually the only one of Iowas great shooters that gets open looks from 3.

My assumption would be that if Luka gets 40 hes probably knocking down 4 or 5 3s.

Im not sure anyone else will get very many quality looks.

If Weiskamp and Cj are just hitting contested 3s all game, which they can do, then Iowa probably does win.

 

[Jizzer]

Individual matchups I'd say:

Garza > Dicksinson
McCaffrey < Wagner
Wieskamp < Livers
Fredrick > Brooks
Bohannon > Smith

But as a collective unit who plays cohesive defense together, without a doubt Michigan > Iowa.
Also Chaundee Brown is better than anyone on Iowa's bench.

Keegan Murray my friend.

 

[sbhawk64]

Because Michigan is better at every position other than center. Mich also has a above average center so Garza will get his points but probably not dominate. Mich is the best team in the country with few weaknesses. Iowa has weakness of guard play and will find it very hard to get a clean look at the basket. now you know

I hate being right so often. I saw this train weeck comning

 

[RocknRollface]

I hate being right so often. I saw this train weeck comning

I wouldn't call it a train wreck at all.

I was actually pretty encouraged by how well Iowa played.

Garza was awful but everyone else played well enough to win i thought.

 

[83Hawk]

Michigan's D is good but not amazing enough to stop Iowa. No one is. I think Iowa wins this one by 8.

Nice prediction.

 

[Rifler]

I hate being right so often. I saw this train weeck comning

You knew that we were going to loose a starter and 6th man to injury, making a very difficult game practically impossible,.. Who are you?,.. the amazing phucking Kreskin?

 

[HawkRugged17]

You knew that we were going to loose a starter and 6th man to injury, making a very difficult game practically impossible,.. Who are you?,.. the amazing phucking Kreskin?

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

You knew that we were going to loose a starter and 6th man to injury, making a very difficult game practically impossible,.. Who are you?,.. the amazing phucking Kreskin?

I'm probably the only person on this board who knows who Kreskin is. LOL

 

[hawkeyebob62]

I'm probably the only person on this board who knows who Kreskin is. LOL

Prolly not

 

[Suterman]

I'm probably the only person on this board who knows who Kreskin is. LOL

Not by a long shot.

 

[Whinny]

Yes, Michigan is a really tough team to beat. But why do the talking heads never mention the fact that the Wolverines also had 21 days of down time recently due to their COVID break, while most everyone else in the B1G played on? Instead, the break is being described as a disadvantage for Michigan? Um ... yeah. Iowa played 5 games in 11 days during that time. Physical fatigue is a reality in February. Especially for the B1G teams who haven't had a long break to recharge.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Yes, Michigan is a really tough team to beat. But why do the talking heads never mention the fact that the Wolverines also had 21 days of down time recently due to their COVID break, while most everyone else in the B1G played on? Instead, the break is being described as a disadvantage for Michigan? Um ... yeah. Iowa played 5 games in 11 days during that time. Physical fatigue is a reality in February. Especially for the B1G teams who haven't had a long break to recharge.

I also don't get the "Juwan Howard is a miracle worker and a genius!" love fest from media.

The program went in probation from his days as a player. Now, suddenly, he is getting recruits they NEVER would have gotten five years ago. And nobody even throws mild speculation about it?

 

[RocknRollface]

I also don't get the "Juwan Howard is a miracle worker and a genius!" love fest from media.

The program went in probation from his days as a player. Now, suddenly, he is getting recruits they NEVER would have gotten five years ago. And nobody even throws mild speculation about it?

I don't see any reason he would need to cheat.

Hes a famous nba player with connections that no one else has and tons of resources at his disposal.


He can go into a players house and put them on a video chat with Lebron or Dwayne Wade.

Guys like Calipari and K can't touch the kind of presence and credibility that gives him with young black athletes.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

I'm not sure where the hate for Juwan Howard is coming from. Howard has UM playing great basketball. He should be in the running for coach of the year in both the B1G and nationally. I didn't like the Fab 5 either, but Howard was far less unlikeable than at least two of the others, especially Webber. I have always thought he was a hard worker, who seems to handle himself well. Unless something very strange happens, Michigan BB is going to be really good for at least the next few years.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

I'm not sure where the hate for Juwan Howard is coming from. Howard has UM playing great basketball. He should be in the running for coach of the year in both the B1G and nationally. I didn't like the Fab 5 either, but Howard was far less unlikeable than at least two of the others, especially Webber. I have always thought he was a hard worker, who seems to handle himself well. Unless something very strange happens, Michigan BB is going to be really good for at least the next few years.

Hate? Please...

 

[RocknRollface]

I'm not sure where the hate for Juwan Howard is coming from. Howard has UM playing great basketball. He should be in the running for coach of the year in both the B1G and nationally. I didn't like the Fab 5 either, but Howard was far less unlikeable than at least two of the others, especially Webber. I have always thought he was a hard worker, who seems to handle himself well. Unless something very strange happens, Michigan BB is going to be really good for at least the next few years.

The thing that's probably going to happen is Howard will get a call from the nba.

If the Lakers don't win it this year I could see Lebron hiring him to coach the Lakers.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

I don't see any reason he would need to cheat.

Hes a famous nba player with connections that no one else has and tons of resources at his disposal.


He can go into a players house and put them on a video chat with Lebron or Dwayne Wade.

Guys like Calipari and K can't touch the kind of presence and credibility that gives him with young black athletes.

You realize he is born/bred in a culture of "cheat". Hell, they all continued to lie about how they couldn't afford to grab a sandwich, and Webber went so far as to say one reason he left Michigan early was because he saw kids wearing his jersey, while he couldn't afford to buy that jersey. It was all a lie. They were paid thousands to go to Michigan, and thousands more while they were at Michigan.

Not saying necessarily that he's a bad guy, or that he doesn't work hard and get his players prepared. Just saying he may not need as much "miracle work" to get the good recruiting classes.

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[Jizzer]

Man, they struggling.

 

[hexumhawk]

He might end up being a George Raveling type. Great recruiter but bad coach.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

He might end up being a George Raveling type. Great recruiter but bad coach.

He has Phil Martelli (St Joe ex head coach) as an Assistant to help him navigate the coaching aspects of the game. Doesn’t appear he is leaning on him enough like the first year on the bench.

 

[Ronman]

I thought they had a couple of players out with covid, plus didn't he dismiss one of his players from the team for whatever reason? I can't believe he is feeling any real heat. Never good to let your team fall too far behind in the conference standings though, especially with their mediocre overall record.