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My prediction - Kris is back next year.

No I get it but we are talking 1st round pick or being a 2nd and going G league. Role players aren't what you spend a 1st round pick on. Grab those guys as FA
There are a ton of role players that were 1st rounders. Hell the brother of the guy this thread is about was a first rounder and is a role player this year.

Keegan isn't leading the Kings in scoring but they count on him to play a role of making threes. He's doing that very well. Kris could easily follow suit.
 
It's not an arguement about coming back another year or entering the draft. It's just not. Not unless you have no draft status. If you already have draft status.. 1st rd or 2nd rd.. coming back to college is not going to change that. It's just not. In fact staying beyond a draft projection hurts your status. If you follow the NBA draft you know this. Sorry. This isn't the 1980s anymore.
 
How many 3 and D guys do you think get drafted based on the strength of their off hand?

Its just not a big deal for that role.

If anything your argument should be improving 3pt percentage.
you are kidding right? try even getting shots off if the defense can overplay to your strong hand. why Kegan was better at this point.
 
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Maybe a little but hes never going to be anything besides a 3 and D guy.

Hes never going to play a role in the nba that resembles his role at Iowa.

Any improvements he makes in college next year are likely canceled out by his age.
I think you are selling him short. he has skills that he can improve on. he won’t be a first round pick simply to shoot threes.
 
we have people that think 1st rounders are starters or bust and practice time is limited in the NBA.

I give up on this thread
That is probably the right call in 99.99% of all thread's. No one is changing anyones mind, most are loaded with passive aggressive replies and are a circle of nonsense. Then every once in a while there is a really good thread, but it usually has something to do with OP's mom
 
Man it is hard to pass on the money. However, a second rounder whose maybe looking at Des Moines by mid season might want to return to college to achieve some other goals. Win the conference, shoot for the final four.
Should my optimistic assessment of Payton be accurate Kris could be returning to a kind of dominating team, assuming we get something from some center or deep post defender. But life altering money is hard to turn down, particularly when made while realizing another important lifetime goal of playing in the NBA.

As my brother would say...."but the money."
 
You were the one to make the connection between Kris and Keegan, also being the highest scorer doesn't make him the leader. I would say Rebracca and Connor were the leaders.

As for draft status we will remain locked in disagreement...

I do wish Kris the best and hope he proves me wrong and you right. Only time will tell if he is more G league/Europe or multi year full roster guy.

I never thought Weiskamp was going to be a 1st round draft pick. I think Kris could but don't see it happening unless he returns for another year. The last guy that left too early in my opinion was Cook. I also think he would have made more going the European route.
Google kris murray and draft prospect. Almost every thing you read has him mid to late 1st rd. One common theme on profile for negatives is age. I can't find one that mentions leadership. As for things to be improved he might as well get paid to work on his game instead of come back to iowa because 1st rd picks have 3 year guarantee that is why any prospect who is considered should leave. Even if drops to 2nd many make roster and depending on team get some good playing time like Ayo Dosunmu for ILL last year dropped to early 2nd and has fit in nicely with the Bulls. Or are still making good $ in G League or 2 way player such as Garza or AJ Green.
 
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Yes...yes he will be. Shoot threes, rebound, play defense.

Serious question, have you watched much NBA? Today's game is very 3 point focused.
i see you agree with me. i said he has skills and and that is why he would be picked in the first round not just for shooting threes. see you have spent your time watching games and not playing them.
 
Kris is gone,.. won't go as high as Keegan but still a very draftable talent,.. Very glad to have had both as Hawkeyes.
 
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i see you agree with me. i said he has skills and and that is why he would be picked in the first round not just for shooting threes. see you have spent your time watching games and not playing them.
You said he wouldn't be drafted to shoot 3s. He WOULD be drafted to be a 3 point specialist.

I guess you got me there. I've never played in the NBA. Have you? And yes...I watch a lot of NBA which is why I know how teams play the game these days.

Your assertion was that "He has skills he can build on." Well no shit, Sherlock. You don't go to the NBA without having skills. We are talking about what his speciality and niche will be. Stop being purposely obtuse.
 
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You said he wouldn't be drafted to shoot 3s. He WOULD be drafted to be a 3 point specialist.

I guess you got me there. I've never played in the NBA. Have you? And yes...I watch a lot of NBA which is why I know how teams play the game these days.

Your assertion was that "He has skills he can build on." Well no shit, Sherlock. You don't go to the NBA without having skills. We are talking about what his speciality and niche will be. Stop being purposely obtuse.
learn to read and comprehend and not be stupid.
 
If Kris improves as much as Keegan did after declaring for the draft he won't ever see the g league. Heck, his improvement over the summer was pretty remarkable. He'll be drafted and getting minutes somewhere. I also want him to come back but because I prefer the Hawkeyes to watching him in the NBA. I actually wanted him and Keegan to stay until their senior year. I'm glad for them but more sad for me. It's completely bs that i don't get my way. I should complain to someone about this.
 
If Kris improves as much as Keegan did after declaring for the draft he won't ever see the g league. Heck, his improvement over the summer was pretty remarkable. He'll be drafted and getting minutes somewhere. I also want him to come back but because I prefer the Hawkeyes to watching him in the NBA. I actually wanted him and Keegan to stay until their senior year. I'm glad for them but more sad for me. It's completely bs that i don't get my way. I should complain to someone about this.
Agreed. We had this same thread about Keegan last year where people were saying he wasn't ready and that he should come back to Iowa.
 
Agreed. We had this same thread about Keegan last year where people were saying he wasn't ready and that he should come back to Iowa.
I think Kris should come back because i want him to. No other reason than a narcissistic viewpoint that what i want trumps all others! But honestly Keegan and Kris both improved so much after the season last year i was impressed. They are late bloomers and Kris is a year behind Keegan or so. And you're usually on the money about this stuff too.
 
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you are kidding right? try even getting shots off if the defense can overplay to your strong hand. why Kegan was better at this point.
Getting shots off?

Kris won't be getting the ball unless he's open and then his job will be to shoot or pass.

How do you over play the strong hand of a player whos only job will be to stand at the 3pt line, catch and shoot or swing the ball?

You don't watch the NBA do you?

Kris isn't going to be creating anything off the dribble besides maybe attacking the occasional out of control close out.

3pt percentage is what matters on offense for a 3 and D role player.
 
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Yes...yes he will be. Shoot threes, rebound, play defense.

Serious question, have you watched much NBA? Today's game is very 3 point focused.
And extreemly compartmentalized by role.

The good ballhandlers in the nba are so good and so much better than everyone else that no coach wants to waste possessions letting other players try to create offense.
 
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Getting shots off?

Kris won't be getting the ball unless he's open and then his job will be to shoot or pass.

How do you over play the strong hand of a player whos only job will be to stand at the 3pt line, catch and shoot or swing the ball?

You don't watch the NBA do you?

Kris isn't going to be creating anything off the dribble besides maybe attacking the occasional out of control close out.

3pt percentage is what matters on offense for a 3 and D role player.
ok. lol….so a NBA team is going to us a first round draft pick for someone who is just going to stand their and wait for someone to pass him the ball then shoot it or pass it to someone. question here is not if you watch basketball it’s if you understand it even a little. you are so underestimating Kris’s abilities and what is looked for in first round pick. I truly hope Kris will be a first round pick and if he is it will be because he can do kore than just stand around and shoot threes.
 
Kris most likely isn't coming back. With what Iowa has coming back, I just don't see him risking it. He'll be the guy, for sure, but he was this year as well in a weak B1G and we still struggled immensely. Hell, even with Kris next year, it'll be tough making the tourney. He knows this better than anyone.
 
I can't say enough good things about Kris. Great Hawkeye! And yep, I'd love to see him come back. But, don't see that happening. I also can't see him being a 3pt specialist in the NBA, with only shooting 33.5% this year in college. Robby Hummel said he misses when he fades away, and doesn't go straight up with his shot. And towards the end of the year, that did seem to be the case. Hope he gets it figured out, because I've enjoyed watching the NBA regular season more with Garza and Keegan getting real minutes, than I've enjoyed watching the regular season in a long time. Good luck Kris!
 
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