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My son wants to start martial arts

For what? The only person(s) that should feel bad are the ones suggesting a 10 year old take MMA lessons like some douchebag-in-training. Maybe his dad should buy him a pit bull and give his first pack of Camel Non-Filters while he is at it.
Oh boy, here we go. What a stupid arse post this is. It's called learning to defend yourself and this form of martial arts is proven to be the most effective.

In all seriousness, are you just some of weakling or something? Why do you equate this training to automatically going out and causing trouble?
 
Oh boy, here we go. What a stupid arse post this is. It's called learning to defend yourself and this form of martial arts is proven to be the most effective.

In all seriousness, are you just some of weakling or something? Why do you equate this training to automatically going out and causing trouble?

It's like guns, man. Nobody should be violent you know, because... dude.
 
It's like guns, man. Nobody should be violent you know, because... dude.
No kidding right? I mean for yodas sake, it would be such a bad thing for a kid to know a few defense skills and have confidence in himself enough to know they he can stand up for himself.

Who therefore is much less likely to cause trouble because he knows he doesn't have to prove himself.

I've find most people who talk ish about this are simply jealous or in many cases, someone who has an abusive personality and doesn't like the thought of people defending themselves.
 
Oh boy, here we go. What a stupid arse post this is. It's called learning to defend yourself and this form of martial arts is proven to be the most effective.

In all seriousness, are you just some of weakling or something? Why do you equate this training to automatically going out and causing trouble?
Right, people like watching MMA for the self-defense aspect. Good one. That's why they need their pit bulls too.
 
Right, people like watching MMA for the self-defense aspect. Good one. That's why they need their pit bulls too.
How naive are you man? MMA is a sport, yes a tough and at times brutal one, but it's a sport. No less brutal than football can be.

If I'm going to put my into a martial art, I'm going to put him in one that actually teaches the realistic measures that produce results.

As a kid they aren't going full bore like the adults are, at least not at most gyms. They wear pads, contact level is toned down and they are simply learning skills. It's not some barbarian like cage where they are thrown in with Wolves.
 
How naive are you man? MMA is a sport, yes a tough and at times brutal one, but it's a sport. No less brutal than football can be.

The entire pupose of MMA is to knock your opponent out cold with your fists. If he dies, he dies.

The purpose of football is to work with your teammates to matriculate the ball down the field to cross the goal line and score a touchdown.

Are you smart enough to recognize the difference between the two? Wait, don't answer that.
 
Prove me wrong.

Why? You're mind is obviously made up about the sport of MMA.

I just don't see a large difference between the disciplines. Both are going to teach self-defense, hard work, and discipline. Just because you have an ill served motioned to think one is full of douchebags then I think you should prove me wrong.
 
The entire pupose of MMA is to knock your opponent out cold with your fists. If he dies, he dies.

The purpose of football is to work with your teammates to matriculate the ball down the field to cross the goal line and score a touchdown.

Are you smart enough to recognize the difference between the two? Wait, don't answer that.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. First off football comes with much more severe injuries on average, and it has lingering effects on the brain VERY similar if not worse than fighting.

Simply training how to effectively fight and defend yourself does not mean you're automatically going to go out and beat the sh!t out of whomever you want. As a matter of fact many gyms have a no fight outside the gym clause or you're out rule, especially for kids.
 
Prove me wrong.
You were wrong the second you argued this. Do you seem an epidemic of MMA trained fighters running around assaulting everyone?

What's the difference between a kid who's learned boxing, judo, wrestling, karate, etc?
 
You were wrong the second you argued this. Do you seem an epidemic of MMA trained fighters running around assaulting everyone?

What's the difference between a kid who's learned boxing, judo, wrestling, karate, etc?
I never said he would assault anyone. I just said he would turn into a douchebag, like you.
 
First off football comes with much more severe injuries on average, and it has lingering effects on the brain VERY similar if not worse than fighting.

Absolutely agree. But the intended purpose of football is not to damage the other participant's brain to the point that he cannot continue.
 
The entire pupose of MMA is to knock your opponent out cold with your fists. If he dies, he dies.

The purpose of football is to work with your teammates to matriculate the ball down the field to cross the goal line and score a touchdown.

Are you smart enough to recognize the difference between the two? Wait, don't answer that.
MMA is 3 ways; knock out, submit, injure to the point continuing isn't an option.

The point in football is to hit the opponent so hard they fumble or cannot continue the drive to score the td.
 
He's 10. If he wants to go into martial arts (any), and you have the funds, let him do it.

Ignore those specifying he should enter some specific discipline, The kid's 10, he should be playing and doing what's fun, not training. When the kid's older, around the time of puberty/Tanner stage 2, then worry about directing him towards a potentially more practical application.
 
It's fun. My son and I did this about 12 years ago for several months. Was good time. Got my ass kicked a few times, but a great workout. I say it's as good for you mentally as it is physically. I wouldn't mind doing it again if I had more time and some extra money.
 
Right, people like watching MMA for the self-defense aspect. Good one. That's why they need their pit bulls too.

I can't stand MMA and my son has no exposure to it. I have no neck tats, no dogs and believe cigarettes should have filters. My son just wants to learn a different skill and I support him in that.

Many of you have referenced cost...give me some examples. If it is outrageous I will be tapping out (see that?) as we have spent a fortune on cheer and I am a poor.
 
I can't stand MMA and my son has no exposure to it. I have no neck tats, no dogs and believe cigarettes should have filters. My son just wants to learn a different skill and I support him in that.

I'm on your side here, just to be clear. Trying to tamp down the lunatic fringe that advocates for MMA being the best method of learning self-defense and discipline among 10 year olds. They are a persistent pair/trio though, I'll give them that.
 
I'm on your side here, just to be clear. Trying to tamp down the lunatic fringe that advocates for MMA being the best method of learning self-defense and discipline among 10 year olds. They are a persistent pair/trio though, I'll give them that.

If I let my son do MMA at age 10 I would deserve to have my own ass kicked. I know there are MMA fans here and I'm a big believer in embracing what makes us different. But quite simply, to me it is human cockfighting with meathead dudes and meathead chicks with meathead fans. It's not for me.
 
If I let my son do MMA at age 10 I would deserve to have my own ass kicked. I know there are MMA fans here and I'm a big believer in embracing what makes us different. But quite simply, to me it is human cockfighting with meathead dudes and meathead chicks with meathead fans. It's not for me.
That's your decision, but then why are you looking into martial arts at all then? Honestly it's insulting to hear this, and yet you want to play around with martial arts? This is the pinnacle of martial arts, the top of the food chain, the proven winner, chicken dinner. I suggest other sports then. Wrestling is what I'd recommend in this case. The other ones are just a waste of time, and mostly for show.
 
That's your decision, but then why are you looking into martial arts at all then? Honestly it's insulting to hear this, and yet you want to play around with martial arts? This is the pinnacle of martial arts, the top of the food chain, the proven winner, chicken dinner. I suggest other sports then. Wrestling is what I'd recommend in this case. The other ones are just a waste of time, and mostly for show.

You realize before MMA, martial arts were largely used to increase flexibility, discipline and self defense, correct? Those are the primary reasons for his interest and because he thinks it would be fun. I am not grooming my son to get in a cage to bludgeon other people.
 
That's your decision, but then why are you looking into martial arts at all then? Honestly it's insulting to hear this, and yet you want to play around with martial arts? This is the pinnacle of martial arts, the top of the food chain, the proven winner, chicken dinner. I suggest other sports then. Wrestling is what I'd recommend in this case. The other ones are just a waste of time, and mostly for show.

I apologize for insulting you. I have been around too many MMA guys that have given that sport a bad name. Before it exploded, I had very good friends that were jujitsu instructors. Awesome guys. But as time wore on, people weren't there to learn ground combat, they wanted to do curls, wear Affliction shirts, and start hassles in bars. I have seen too much of that hence my negative view of the sport.
 
I apologize for insulting you. I have been around too many MMA guys that have given that sport a bad name. Before it exploded, I had very good friends that were jujitsu instructors. Awesome guys. But as time wore on, people weren't there to learn ground combat, they wanted to do curls, wear Affliction shirts, and start hassles in bars. I have seen too much of that hence my negative view of the sport.
LOL, I'm good. I just think that the whole MMA is full of douchebags isn't true. It's very effective in fitness training, as well as defense. Most gyms preach a very passive message in order to keep from having their members go out and practice what they preach on the unwilling. You'd be surprised how straight laced a lot of MMA practitioners are. For every Nick Diaz, there's 10 GSP's. Like I said before though, wrestling is good if you're looking for something with a little less impact.
 
MMA training for a kid is very different than kids involved in martial arts classes...pretty naïve to lump them together, actually. I have two daughters ages 14 and 9...both are enrolled in a local Brazilian Jiu Jitsu gym. Neither one of them has any aspirations whatsoever of become a fighter...far from it. They thoroughly enjoy the classes and the friends they have there...it's a great, positive community.

What I would recommend for your son is some type of grappling art that doesn't have an emphasis on striking (wrestling, BJJ, Aikido) The point of BJJ instruction is for a smaller weaker person to disable a larger stronger one...absolutely perfect for women and girls to learn to defend themselves from a physical attack. This is for the most part done without any type of striking and is centered around grappling, and submission locks and chokes, many of which can be performed from the back with an opponent on top. Aikido would also be a good choice for younger practitioners...it is centered around being able to train without injuring the attacker and living a clean lifestyle.
 
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